Torah is very clear that Gentiles are to turn from pagan practices and observe Torah as equals with the Jewish people. To demonstrate this concept YHWH raised up men like Caleb the Kenezite who had a "different spirit" and who exemplified those who were not bloodline Israelites but who were called to very high offices within Israel. Ruth the Moabitess is another who exemplifies a Gentile woman who was called by the Ruach haKodesh to join with Israel. It would be unconscionable to think of Caleb or Ruth as Gentiles because they were called by YHWH to be part of Israel and their part in the Kingdom is much more secure than bloodline Israelites who choose to slight YHWH and His Word.
The Ruach haKodesh guided the Apostles of Y'shua and gave them discernment for how Gentiles could make the transition from heathenism to Mashiyach.
"But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood. For Moses of old time has in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day." (Acts 15:20-21)
Notice that the Gentiles were attending synagogue and learning about Moses and Torah, and notice that the Apostles recognized that it was a process for Gentiles to enter into the Kingdom, there was a recognition of transition rather than an expectation of immediate compliance with Torah. However in the course of time, even within the next hundred years the Gentiles became a law unto themselves and put off joining with Israel to invent their own self made kingdoms, today denominational Christianity labels itself as "Spiritual Israel", but most have little or nothing in common with the Israel of Elohim or the remnant of Jewish people who hold to Y'shua as Mashiyach.
Paul teaches that the Goy shouldn't get so haughty, the unnatural branch is not born from the root and is not so familiar, knowledgeable and acquainted with Mashiyach and Torah as the natural branch. The fact that many Jews reject the Torahless Jesus is a credit toward Jews who understand very clearly that Mashiyach and his followers are not and cannot be anti-Torah, nor is their identity in Greek, Hellenized or pagan traditions.
Gentiles entered into the Kingdom of Elohim because the disciples and apostles of Y'shua were led by the Ruach haKodesh to offer the Kingdom of Elohim to people of all nations, Gentiles who come to Faith in Mashiyach are referred to as Fearers of Elohim in New Covenant writings and are part of Spiritual Israel, not a kingdom unto themselves. In reality many Gentiles are shedding the anti-Torah, anti-Mashiyach religious garments and turning to YHWH in Spirit and in Truth as they are led by the Ruach haKodesh to be part of one people whom YHWH is calling out for Himself, but most of these Gentiles have had to endure great animosity and resistance by their churches and family members.
The teaching that "the church" replaced Israel is both shameful and disgusting because the modern church would not even be recognized as the Faith of the First Century followers of Mashiyach. The church today has adopted most of the customs of the heathen, it is anti-Semitic, it is anti-Torah and yet it tries to command an equivalent or higher place than the Israel of Elohim, but of course this is simply a satanic deception that lulls sinners into believing that they are "justified in their sins."
Many Christians believe in a doctrine about justification by Faith modeled after Avraham, but in reality they practice a justification by Faith modeled after their own invention of Paul, because they are certainly NOT preaching circumcision and a perfect heart before YHWH. Many self proclaimed Israelites take on all form of Christian ideology as if to legitimize their own religion, but Mashiyach said, if you love me, keep my Commandments... and it's a big IF, so if a person has Faith they will observe Torah. Torah observance increases a persons capacity for Faith and that's what Avraham taught us.
Most Christians or Believers have a perspective of Israel that is based on their Christian identity, whereas Israel is also bound to the Covenant of Avraham by promise, by lineage and by a piece of real estate that is part of an eternal Covenant. The idea that the church replaced Israel, which is known as Replacement Theology is akin to haSatan replacing the Kingdom of Elohim with his own kingdom. In fact we have clear evidence that this is what the Christo-Pagan church is doing, with all the justification for Christmas trees, Ishtar eggs, Ishtar sunrise services, Sun-Day worship, using pagan names like JeZeus for the Mashiyach are all evidence of the fallen world trying to wear an Israelite label. Another telltale sign of the Church being a counterfeit Israel is by their own testimony of label, each Christian will tell you the name of their denomination as their spiritual identity. They say I'm a (name of denomination) when questioned about their faith and give glory to man's religious denominations by following the doctrines and traditions of their various churches, but far be it for most Christians to be engrafted into the Commonwealth of Israel and observe Torah and cease from their sins. The sad truth is that Christianity today is as Ya'akov the cheater, who has not become Israel the prince. And of course YHWH will judge the Church during a time called Jacob's trouble, because they say they are Israel but are not, they deceive themselves and others into breaking Torah and not upholding the Word of the Living Elohim.
The false church has invented comforting doctrines of demons for itself to even be rewarded with a "rapture" into heaven for it's insolence, rebellion and curses towards the Jewish people. The fact of the matter is that the false church is extremely easy to identify, read Scripture and compare the lifestyle of Y'shua Mashiyach to those who call themselves "Christ-like" (Christians), there is a great gulf between the two kingdoms. To be "like" Mashiyach means to be true to the calling of Israel and live as Y'shua lived, he observed Shabbat, he sanctified the Name of YHWH, he observed Torah and he loves the Jewish people, so why don't Christians do these things? This is what it means to be Israel after the Spirit, it is to recognize oneself as belonging to a people whom YHWH has chosen from before the foundations of the world. Every race of people has their failings so it is extremely foolish for Christians to point their fingers at Jews and slander them for their failings in an attempt to make themselves look better off. Are Christians any better off? I say NOT!!! As a overall general category there are about 1.3 Billion Christians who are hell bent on setting idols before themselves, the mother harlot church has a massive symbol of the sun at the heart of it's identity and all the Protestant Churches bought into many of their Mother's lies, there are pagan rituals throughout Christianity borrowed from Zeus and sun worship.
Oh foolish Christians, who hath bewitched thee, you are only begging for a harsher judgment because you claim to be Israel after the spirit of Mashiyach, yet you speak evil against Torah and break the Word of the Living Elohim. The global remedy to arrogant Christianity is Ya'akov's time of trouble, and this will certainly divide the sheep from the goats, many Christians will shake their fists at heaven and curse the Living Elohim when their pagan ideals come under judgment. Make no mistake about it, if Israel after the blood and the Jewish people have suffered because of wearing a "Jewish" label then the Church will suffer more for wearing the label of Mashiyach but scorning Torah and the perfection of the spiritual man.
No, Shalom you did the right thing, because those who confess and prfoess that they are Christians should see themselves as they are!
Many exclude themselves from everything that is spoken out against in the Bible, and they think it speaks to someone else beside them, when in fact, most Christians are foolish, unwise, and bewitched by their OWN thoughts and interpretations of God's word, instead of the Holy Spirit's revelation of His word for understanding!Not many so-called Christians apply the truth or God's holy scriptures to themselves, but they sure will beat down your door to try and apply it to someone else...
:yay:...This is some heavy and realistic perspective...Thank you for the post and the link...:buddies:...< Jew & Gentile drinking RootBeer and being In-Toxicated with the WORD >.. Blessings...xo
IS JESUS YESHUA HAMASHEACH {JESUS THE MESSIAH} AND IMMANUEL WHICH MEANS GOD WITH US??
Luke 3:23-38 and Matthew 1:1-16 gives the genealogy of Jesus through Mary and Joseph who were both related to David and Abraham. Jesus was born in the town of Bethlehem to a virgin as prophesied in Micah 5:2 and Isaiah 7:14.
Luke 1:26-35: God sent an angel :angel:Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, to a virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of David. The virgin's name was Mary. The angel went to her and said, "greetings, you are highly favored. The Lord is with you."
The angel said to her, "You will be with child and give birth to a son, and you are to give Him the name Jesus. He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of His father David, and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever; His kingdom will never end." {All of which was prophesied in the OT}
"How will this be," Mary asked the angel, "since I am a virgin?" The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the Holy One to be born will be called the Son of God."
Micah 5:2: "But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me One who will be Ruler over Israel, whose origins are from old, from ancient times."
Isaiah 9:6,7: " For to us a child is born, to us a Son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And He will be called Wonderful Counselor, ***Mighty God***, Prince of Peace. Of the increase of His government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David's throne and over His kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever."
Isaiah 7:14: The Lord Himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a Son and will call Him *IMMANUEL*!!" {Which means in Hebrew "GOD WITH US"!!}:applause:
Isaiah 53:5,6: "He was pierced for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon Him. and by His wounds we are healed. We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way, and the Lord has laid on Him the iniquity of us all!!":applause:
Hebrews 9:15,26b-28: Christ is the mediator of a **NEW COVENANT** so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance--now that He has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant...But now He has APPEARED once for all at the end of the ages to do away with sin by the SACRIFICE of Himself... so Christ was SACRIFICED ONCE to take away the sins of many people, and He will *APPEAR* a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him.
Hebrews 8:8,9,13: God found fault with the people and said {In Exodus 25:40}: The time is coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a **NEW COVENANT**{Read Deut 18:17-19!!} with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah. It will **NOT** be like the covenant I made with their forefathers.....By calling this covenant **NEW**, He made the first one **OBSOLETE**; and what is **OBSOLETE** and aging will soon disappear.� {When all the words of the New Covenant were completed by the Book of Revelation in AD 96!!}
Deuteronomy 18:17-19: The Lord said to Moses, "I will raise up for them {Israel} a Prophet like you from among their brothers, I will put My words in His mouth, and He will tell them everything I command Him. If anyone does not listen to My words that the Prophet speaks in My Name, I Myself will call him to account!!"
Hebrew 10:8-10: Jesus said, "Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not desire, nor were you pleased with them. Although the law required them to be made. The He {Jesus} said. "Here I am, I have come to do your will." He {Jesus} set aside the first {Covenant} to establish the second. And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus ONCE FOR ALL!!:applause:
John 14:23,24: Jesus says, If anyone loves Me, he will obey My teaching. My Father will love him, and We will make our home with him. He who does not love Me will not obey My teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent Me." {See Deuteronomy 18:17-19 above!!}
shalom716 wrote "Notice that the Gentiles were attending synagogue and learning about Moses and Torah, and notice that the Apostles recognized that it was a process for Gentiles to enter into the Kingdom, there was a recognition of transition rather than an expectation of immediate compliance with Torah. However in the course of time, even within the next hundred years the Gentiles became a law unto themselves and put off joining with Israel to invent their own self made kingdoms, today denominational Christianity labels itself as "Spiritual Israel", but most have little or nothing in common with the Israel of Elohim or the remnant of Jewish people who hold to Y'shua as Mashiyach."
Messianic Judaism, the Hebrew Roots Movement, and Sacred Name theology are theologies which in some of their teachings are contrary to New Testament doctrines. I listed eleven New Testament scriptures in my post "What Do These Scriptures Mean To Church Christians?" Its on page 3 now. I was asking what church Christians who follow dispensationalism think these scriptures mean. But it can be asked what do these scriptures mean to the various Messianic Judaism groups? Or to the Hebrew Roots people? Or the Sacred Namers?
To make things a little less confusing, what do those who want to be Christians need now? They need more Jesus Christ and to first know him from the four Gospels as he taught and they need to know what Paul taught. They do not need Jesus Christ and Paul's work interpreted through the lens of the Old Covenant. They need to understand that the Prophets and the righteousness of God as the moral law were not abolished, but should be viewed from the New Testament doctrines. Bringing in various kinds of Hebrew terms and ideas that suggest Old Covenant teachings without citing specific Bible verses is not what we need.
Is it any wonder Jesus's name was originally Hebrew?
They need to learn that G-d did not do away with the Ten Commandments. The doctrine of grace has gone too far, in that most christian's think that because Jesus "did it all" then they only need to believe and that's enough.
The G-d of the OT is the same G-d of the NT and He is the same yesterday, today and forever. Somewhere along the way, christian's have been taught the OT does not apply to them. Jesus came to "fulfill the law and the prophets" not do away with it.
The Ten Commandments have been removed from public places, historic statues, just like the Bible has been removed from schools, so as America continues to dishonor G-d and turn their backs on his Holy Law, this country will continue to deteriorate.
The Ten Commandments is the foundation of our society is it any wonder the foundation is cracking?
The doctrine of grace has gone too far, in that most christian's think that because Jesus "did it all" then they only need to believe and that's enough.
*** Totaly Agree Shalom...Its a Doctrine that is going to send a lot of people to Hell and they dont even know it. Its also where those that dont Hear this Message bring up the Argument pertaining to Works vs Faith...People fail to realize the Works are of the LORD and not of ourselves...for All must work to eat...:rolleyes:...Faith without Works is Dead...I dont wonder why the word Dead is there...So a person can Believe in Jesus and have All the Faith in the World and Continue to Constanly live in and of Sin Ignoring the 10 Commandments while saying...Jesus did it "ALL" so I can go to church on Sunday...be Holier than Thou...:dunce:...and then Monday through Saturday just keep on doing the Ignor the Law/10 Commandments and " DO it MY WAY"...This is not Repentance nor Turning Away from Sin nor being Born Again...Sorry to Rant but I gota get up on my lil low pony and say what I gota say...:winksmile:...xo