Homosexuality is already finding its way into our churches and even our Biblical belief. Are we willing to fight it out and stand strong as true Christians or follow the masses and join in that stupid ideological system of equality. God condemns it, should we as Christians do the same? Homosexuality is an epidemic causing a lot of ravaging effect on the world at large. It is not a race, it's a choice. So why call the fight against it discrimination?
I would like to know what your opinions are concerning this. Please feel free to post your responses. This is a Christian site...we should speak with much boldness and not mince words!
I totally agree! Homosexuality is a SIN! And as Christians we are to satnd for what God has to say baout sin and not what society thinks about sin!
Society calls homosexuality an alternative life style... God calls it SIN!
Society calls adultery having an affair... God calls it SIN!
Society call fornication making love... God calls it SIN!
ALL SEXUAL IMMORALITY IS SIN! And Christians are to take a stand for righteousness, doesn't matter who in your family or friends are invloved in sin, we are to tell them what thus says the Lord about sin, there are no respect of persons when it comes to sin. And the wages(penalty, price) of SIN is death whether its emotionally. mentally, spiritually, financially, or physically.There are no but's or maybe's about it, homosexuality is what God says it is ... and if there is not repentance and a turning from it, eternal hell will be the home of those who practice such sin... And that's God's final word... Romans chapter 1.
Firstly, there's more to this thread than meets the eye. It isn't just another homosexuality bashing thread in the name of religion. The OP is from/in Nigeria, and once you understand that, you'll understand more about why he's so invested in the matter.
Africa countries, Uganda and Nigeria in particular, has been waging a holy war against homosexuality because of western churches in the country offering various forms of aide, but only if they pass laws against homosexuality and other sins that'd make the medevill Catholics cringe:
"KAMPALA, Uganda � Uganda's parliament on Wednesday delayed debate a controversial bill that once proposed the death penalty for some gays and lesbians, but officials indicated lawmakers would take up the matter on Friday."
"In Nigeria homosexuality is punishable by death. Uganda is considering a similar anti-homosexuality bill, and South Africa -- the most liberal of the African states on this issue -- have tolerated gangs who perform "corrective" rapes on lesbians."
As to actual Scripture, homosexuality is NOT a sin. The sin comes from the act of male-male sodomy. Homosexuality, like hetereosexuality, is the orientation or predisposition. And since premarital sex is a sin, and homosexuals can't get married (religiously,) sex for a homosexual will always be sinful, but so to for heterosexuals if not married. But just as hetereosexuals aren't sinning if not having premarital relations, homosexuals too, if celibate are not in sin.
22. You shall not lie down with a male, as with a woman: this is an abomination. - Leviticus 18
'Homosexuality' wasn't even extant when Scripture was written. Instead what the writers used were descriptions of the actual forbidden acts being spoken of. Versions of the Bible that use the word should frankly be thrown in a fire as they're in no way accurate and changing the Word of God, a sin unto itself.
1. Everything I command you that you shall be careful to do it. You shall neither add to it, nor subtract from it. - Deuteronomy 13
As to homosexuality being a major problem in Africa, I think liberal estimates put the number of homosexuals in a given sample at no more than 10% so it would seem to me the major crisis re: spread HIV isn't coming from the homosexual community so much as the heterosexual one.
The one who has not commited this same sin,let that person cast the first stone.
Remember sins in the heart.
John 8:3 and the scribes and the Pharisees bring unto him a woman having been taken in adultery, and having set her in the midst,
John 8:4 they say to him, `Teacher, this woman was taken in the very crime--committing adultery,
John 8:5 and in the law, Moses did command us that such be stoned; thou, therefore, what dost thou say?'
John 8:6 and this they said, trying him, that they might have to accuse him. And Jesus, having stooped down, with the finger he was writing on the ground,
Joh 8:7 and when they continued asking him, having bent himself back, he said unto them, `The sinless of you--let him first cast the stone at her;'
Joh 8:8 and again having stooped down, he was writing on the ground,
John 8:9 and they having heard, and by the conscience being convicted, were going forth one by one, having begun from the elders--unto the last; and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
WHich sin is not forgiveable,or is not forgiveabale.
Mat 12:30 `He who is not with me is against me, and he who is not gathering with me, doth scatter.
Mat 12:31 Because of this I say to you, all sin and evil speaking shall be forgiven to men, but the evil speaking of the Spirit shall not be forgiven to men.
Mat 12:32 And whoever may speak a word against the Son of Man it shall be forgiven to him, but whoever may speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this age, nor in that which is coming.
What is it that combats this sin,and any sin.
Mat 28:17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.
Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Had the Christians been proclaiming the Gospel,instead of watching the KNUCKLEHEAD BOX.
Jeff said As to actual Scripture, homosexuality is NOT a sin. The sin comes from the act of male-male sodomy. Homosexuality, like hetereosexuality, is the orientation or predisposition. And since premarital sex is a sin, and homosexuals can't get married (religiously,) sex for a homosexual will always be sinful, but so to for heterosexuals if not married. But just as hetereosexuals aren't sinning if not having premarital relations, homosexuals too, if celibate are not in sin.
22. You shall not lie down with a male, as with a woman: this is an abomination. - Leviticus 18
Ella says If homosexuality is not a sin, what is the meaning of the word abomniation? God does not call premarital sex which is fornaicaton or adultery abomination... but He does call homosexuality an abomination, so how would you celibate how God views fornication and adultery, when compared/calibrated to how He views homosexuality?...I'll wait until you get your calculator out:laugh:
Jeff said: 'Homosexuality' wasn't even extant when Scripture was written. Instead what the writers used were descriptions of the actual forbidden acts being spoken of. Versions of the Bible that use the word should frankly be thrown in a fire as they're in no way accurate and changing the Word of God, a sin unto itself.
Ella says: Jeff, I would like to know who told you this information that homosexuality wasn't even extent when Scripture was written? Please splain yourself as to where you got this information? So if this is true how far back was Sodom and Gomorrah? Was ut before God wrote the laws given in Leviticus or AFTER the laws were given to Moses? And what were the purpose of God given such a law back themn if no one knew or had the slightest idea about homosexuality/ not the word, but the physical act of the sexual immoral behavior? Love to hear your view points on this based on your comment...Thanks
Jeff said: 1. Everything I command you that you shall be careful to do it. You shall neither add to it, nor subtract from it. - Deuteronomy 13
GOD ALSO SAYS: You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. IT IS AN ABOMINATION -Leviticus chapter 18.
GOD ALSO SAYS: If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have COMMITTED AN ABOMINATION. THEY SHALL SURELY BE UT TO DEATH. THEIR BLOOD SHALL BE UPON THEM. Leviticus chapter 20.
GOD ALSO SAYS: For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men leaving the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. Romans chapter One.
Jeff said: As to homosexuality being a major problem in Africa, I think liberal estimates put the number of homosexuals in a given sample at no more than 10% so it would seem to me the major crisis re: spread HIV isn't coming from the homosexual community so much as the heterosexual one.
Ella says: Hoimosexuality is not just a major problem in Africa, its a major problems in Amercia and all over the world. Many men and women are gays/homsexuals and think they can hide it. But God sees and knows the truth. And HIV is being speaded to the heterosexual women by their husbands and boyfriends who have sex with homosexual men, and some on a regular bases and are married...
Jeff, I understand the information you have posted about homoisexuals being put to death in parts of Africa, and I also think this is worng. But then many things are wrong in Africa when it comes to God's laws and human beings, being treated with respect, just as there is here in America and across the world. Those in high places and society concern themselves more with obeying the old laws of God when it makes them feel good and to do their evil. But the laws of the land in Africa are not in obedience to God's laws when it comes to taking care of the human needs of the people according to what God has to say in the old and new laws established by God through Jesus Christ. And this is not of God either, but they think what they are doing is holy and righteous, by killing homosexuals. This is hyporicy big time... even all over the world. And Ignorance of God through Jesus Christ is also a SIN!
Jesus Christ died for the purpose of forgiveness of sins through the act of repentance, and homosexuals should not be killed in Africa or anywhere else for that matter. Nor should we in Amercia or any other country look upon homosexuality as something that is to be right in God's sight or as being normal and of God, in that, a person is born as such. Contrary to what the devil might says, One lie doesn't justify another lie. Homosexuality is SIN!
The Scriptures tells us the that the unclean, abominable, nor the effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind will not inherit the kingdom of God." I Corinthinas chapter 6... I don't think God could have made this any clearer for us to understand.
HIV was first speaded by homosexuals back when they had their first known case somewhere around 1980's... Heterosexual now have HIV and AIDS only because there are many heterosexual men who go out and enjoy sleeping around with homosexual men and then bring this infection back to their wives and/or girlfriends. This is how and why AIDS and HIV is speaded in among heterosexuals and babies...by heterosexual men who slep aroiund in secret with homsosexual men.
Hoimosexuality is not just a major problem in Africa, its a major problems in Amercia and all over the world. Many men and women who are gays/homsexuals think they can hide it, and are married. But God sees and knows the truth.
Again, AIDS and HIV is being speaded to heterosexual women by their husbands and boyfriends who have sex with homosexual men, and some heterosexual men seek out homosexual men on a regular bases and are married...
:ROFL:... sorry, but I thought I should splain(explain) to all you new posters, that I am not a typist therefore, if you find, no... sorry... when you FIND misspelled words in my posts just read what you think the word may be, sometimes I use slang spelling, so over look these words, and keep it movin:ROFL:
Most often, I make all kinds of typo errors when I post, but hopefully you will get the intended message.:yay:
