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The ELECT LADY:
Posted : 9 Jul, 2011 12:27 PM

Hello everyone:



WHo is this elect lady in this Scripture?

The answer might surprise you.



2Jn 1:1 The elder unto the elect lady and her children, whom I love in the truth; and not I only, but also all they that have known the truth;





Shalom:



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The ELECT LADY:
Posted : 9 Jul, 2011 08:13 PM

Hello everyone:



Merciful says:

WHo is this elect lady in this Scripture?



The answer might surprise you.

2John 1:1 The elder unto the elect lady and her children, whom I love in the truth; and not I only, but also all they that have known the truth;



Merciful:

Most of the commentators say that this Elect 'LADY' and her children,Are the church and the people.



Yet this cannot be,for the Greek texts do not agrre with this.



From 'Youngs Literal' translation of 2John 1:1

2John 1:1 The Elder to the choice Kyria, and to her children, whom I love in truth, and not I only, but also all those having known the truth,





The Greek word for 'church' is 'EKKLESIA'

The Greek word for 'LADY' is 'KYRIA'



The word 'Kyria' is the feminine form of the Greek word 'KURIOS':



Kurios is the male form of the word.

Kurios is which Yeshua is addressed,which is 'LORD'



This Elect Lady,must be a woman who is being commended of the Holy Spirit through the Disciple John.

Could the Holy Spirit be wrong about this?

I do not believe so.



The Scriptures are not telling us who this Lady is,Nor what she was doing.

But one thing that is clear by the language used, That this is a LADY,not the church.



The children are her own children,not those assembled to fellowship.



Interesting what the Holy Spirit reveals when a person has the Holy Spirit revealing thses to them..



Shalom:

Mr.Merciful



ps:

This was shown to me by the Spirit of GOD empowering the Woman who is being used to teach me to read the Biblical Greek language.





2Tim 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2Tim 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.



2Tim 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

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The ELECT LADY:
Posted : 10 Jul, 2011 02:40 PM

This is very interesting stuff, Mr. Thank you for posting.

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Posted : 10 Jul, 2011 06:25 PM

If the elect lady is actually a woman, and her children are her actual offspring, why is it that those that love her and her children are contingent upon having known the truth?



And that truth is more than "truth", it is the Holy Spirit as the next verse signifies.

1 The elder unto the elect lady and her children, whom I love in the truth; and not I only, but also all they that have known the truth;

2 For the truth's sake, which dwelleth in us, and shall be with us for ever.

God sealed up His Holy Spirit inside Christians to be with us forever.



The last verses of that chapter (still addressing this elect lady) make mention of the children of her elect sister.

12 Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, and speak face to face, that our joy may be full . 13 The children of thy elect sister greet thee. Amen.

I think, clearly, these are churches.



I'm not saying God does not/has not spoken highly of women in the Bible, because God certainly has. I just disagree with the view that those verses are not referring to churches.

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Posted : 10 Jul, 2011 07:55 PM

@GntlGnt:



Hi Giant:



Gnt says:

If the elect lady is actually a woman, and her children are her actual offspring, why is it that those that love her and her children are contingent upon having known the truth?







And that truth is more than "truth", it is the Holy Spirit as the next verse signifies.



1 The elder unto the elect lady and her children, whom I love in the truth; and not I only, but also all they that have known the truth;



2 For the truth's sake, which dwelleth in us, and shall be with us for ever.



God sealed up His Holy Spirit inside Christians to be with us forever.







The last verses of that chapter (still addressing this elect lady) make mention of the children of her elect sister.



12 Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, and speak face to face, that our joy may be full . 13 The children of thy elect sister greet thee. Amen.



I think, clearly, these are churches.







I'm not saying God does not/has not spoken highly of women in the Bible, because God certainly has. I just disagree with the view that those verses are not referring to churches.







Merciful:



I hope that you had looked into the Greek rendering concerning this Scripture.

Seeing that the Greek is a pointed language than English.



Had the Holy Spirit of GOD wanted this Word of GOD to be about a particular church or churches,would HE not have been specific with the wording.



The Omniscient and Wise Holy Spirit would have empowered the Apostle/Elder John ot have used the Greek word

EKKLESIA which is the word for 'CHURCH'



Rev 1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.



The Strongs number for 'CHURCH' is 1577 Greek



The number for 'LADY' is 2599 Greek.



The problem we have in America is Spiritual Laziness.

paying a man to read the word of GOD for the people then chewing the cud,and regergitating the procedds forth,for others to eat of.

Sounds nasty,but this is the S0-CALLED NORMAL LIFE OF THE BODY OF YESHUA in America.



Please check the Greek;



I hope you will be having a Blessed and safe week.



Shalom:

Mr.Merciful

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The ELECT LADY:
Posted : 11 Jul, 2011 05:27 AM

Proverbs 3:13-20 (English Standard Version)

Blessed Is the One Who Finds Wisdom



13 Blessed is the one who finds wisdom, and the one who gets understanding, 14 for the gain from her is better than gain from silver and her profit better than gold. 15 She is more precious than jewels, and nothing you desire can compare with her. 16 Long life is in her right hand; in her left hand are riches and honor. 17 Her ways are ways of pleasantness, and all her paths are peace. 18 She is a tree of life to those who lay hold of her; those who hold her fast are called blessed. 19 The LORD by wisdom founded the earth; by understanding he established the heavens; 20 by his knowledge the deeps broke open, and the clouds drop down the dew.

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The ELECT LADY:
Posted : 11 Jul, 2011 08:02 AM

Proverbs 23:23 (King James Version)

23~ Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding....xo

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