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Blasphemy?
Posted : 30 Jun, 2011 02:25 PM

I have been taught a couple different meanings of what blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is and am wondering if I have the accurate interpretation, please advise.

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Posted : 30 Jun, 2011 03:41 PM

The blasphemy against the Holy Spirit which can not be forgiven, and is therefore an unpardonable sin; is a very complex problem with many great theologians in total disagreement.



However, there were 4 unpardonable sins added to God's Word in the Book of Revelation:



{1} If anyone worships the Beast {666} or his statue he will receive eternal torment in hell {NO 2nd chances} {See Rev 14-9-11} The holy spirit through God's Word could witness to this person that it is a terrible sin.



{2} If anyone receives the name of the Beast or the number of his name on his right hand or forehead he will receive eternal torment in hell. {NO 2nd chances-See Rev 14:9-11}



{3} Rev 22:19: If anyone TAKES WORDS AWAY from this book of prophecy, God will take away from Him his share in the holy city, which are described in this book {The New Jerusalem}. And if you don't get into the New Jerusalem you have 3 guesses as to where you are going!



{4} Rev 22:18 "I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book {Which would include eternal torment in hell as per Rev 14:10,11; 19:20; 20:10}



If someone teaches something in Revelation that he knows is wrong yet teaches this because it is popular or for some other selfish reason it probably is an unpardonable sin with no second chances. But if someone just believes what others have taught him about Revelation and does not know it is wrong it is probably not an unpardonable sin.

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Posted : 30 Jun, 2011 04:05 PM

Personally, I believe blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is the rejection or continued rejection of the Gospel of Salvation. You aren't saved, you aren't forgiven.

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Posted : 30 Jun, 2011 04:39 PM

To blaspheme means to speak evil against, I do not believe you can put rejecting Jesus as any thing close to blaspheming the holy Ghost.



You hear people say all the times speaking in tongues is just babbling, or of the devil, you can't get much closer than speaking evil of the holy spirit than those words.

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Posted : 30 Jun, 2011 04:53 PM

PJ, have you or anyone you've known, ever said something against God or Christianity? I've known people, myself included, who used to make fun of Christianity, mocked God, and then became believers. So calling speaking in tongues babbling or saying it's from the devil is not unforgivable; I've heard worse. God will forgive those who come to Him seeking Salvation. But for those who continue to reject Salvation, as Paul says in 2 Thessalonians 2:10-12, God will just let them believe their lies and allow them to continue to live in unrighteousness due to their rejection of the Truth.

And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

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Posted : 30 Jun, 2011 05:32 PM

Saved are you filled with the holy ghost with the evidence of Speaking in tongues?



When I make a comment I go by what the word of God says and the word is clear says concerning the father and the lord Jesus and the forgiveness of sins.



I believe the question is what is blasphemy of the holy ghost?



That is what my response is based on.

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Posted : 30 Jun, 2011 05:52 PM

Thanks for your response.



I have heard the interpretation that you state here as being an unbeliever, that is the unforgivable sin, since you are unforgiven.



I have also heard that speaking irreverantly of the things of God, is blasphemy. In the context of the scripture, Jesus healed a man, and was accused of receiving demonic power vs. Holy Spirit power. I have wondered if false prophecy could be considered blasphemy, since you are receiving words via a deceptive spirit vs. Holy Spirit and dishonoring G-d by saying he said it. I have also wondered about speaking in tongues as you mention. I have spoke in tongues, but am uncomfortable with this gift, as I do not know what I or others are actually saying and could be cursing G-d or Holy Spirit and not know it, but to actually say it is of the devil would that be blasphemy since it is a gift of the Holy Spirit, however, if not used properly is dishonoring to G-d. I chose to not subscribe to the pentecostal doctrine due to the speaking in tongues issue.



I have also heard an interpretation that if you refuse to let the Holy Spirit speak through you and give utterance, than this is denying the Holy Spirit and is considered blasphemy.

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Posted : 30 Jun, 2011 05:54 PM

Mat 12:32 AndG2532 whosoeverG3739 G302 speakethG2036 a wordG3056 againstG2596 theG3588 SonG5207 of man,G444 it shall be forgivenG863 him:G846 butG1161 whosoeverG3739 G302 speakethG2036 againstG2596 theG3588 HolyG40 Ghost,G4151 it shall notG3756 be forgivenG863 him,G846 neitherG3777 inG1722 thisG5129 world,G165 neitherG3777 inG1722 theG3588 world to come.G3195



There is no interpretation one only need to believe what the word of God says.

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Posted : 30 Jun, 2011 06:13 PM

I Corinthians:1-5,12,19,23-25: "Follow the way of love and eagerly desire spiritual gifts, especially the gift of prophecy. For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God. Indeed, no one understands him; he utters mysteries with his spirit. But everyone who prophecies speaks to men for their strengthening, encouragement and comfort. He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophecies edifies the church..He who prophesies is greater than one who speaks in tongues...



Since you are eager to have spiritual gifts, try to excel in gifts that build up the church.....In the church I would rather speak 5 intelligible words to instruct others then 10,000 words in a tongue...



If the whole church comes together and everyone speaks in tongues, and some who do not understand or some unbelievers come in, will they not say that you are out of your mind? But if an unbeliever or someone who does not understand comes in while everybody is prophesying, he will be convinced by all, and the secrets of his heart will be laid bare. So he will fall down and worship God, exclaiming, "God is really among you!":applause::peace::angel:

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Posted : 30 Jun, 2011 06:31 PM

Prophet that response has nothing to do with the post.

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Posted : 30 Jun, 2011 06:55 PM

PJ:



what I posted I Corinthians 14 was in response to your statement:



Are you saved filled with the holy ghost with the evidence of Speaking in tongues?

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