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A Foolish Husband and the Wise Wife...
Posted : 28 Jun, 2011 11:04 AM

The Bible tells us this that Nabal was as the meaning of his name a foolish man. He was churish and evil in his doings, devoid of spiritual understanding, insensitive to the things of God and ethical standards.

The BIble tells us that his wife Abigail was a wise woman with understanding, dignity, and integrity sensitive to the things of the Lord, and had good intension, a godly and wise woman.

When you read this storyr in I Samuel chapter 25, about this foolish man Nabal and his wise godly wife Abigail, what spiritual lessons do you gather from it?

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Posted : 28 Jun, 2011 01:22 PM

After her wicked husband Nabal died we read in I Samuel 25:39-41: Then David sent word to Abagail, asking her to become his wife. His servants went to Carmel and said to Abagail, "David has sent us to you to take you to become his wife." Abagail bowed down with her face to the ground and said, "Here is your maidservant, ready to serve you and wash the feet of my MASTERS servants."{See I Peter 3:1-6}



ET in an earlier post said:



Where does it say that the old Covenant is OBSOLETE??



Jeremiah 31:22, 31: "A woman will surround a man." The NIV has this footnote "Or will go about seeking or will protect." In Jeremiah 31:1-30 God is talking about what will happen when Israel comes back from captivity in Babylon {Jer 31:23} Then in Jeremiah 31:31 we read : "The time is coming," declares the Lord, "When I will make a New Covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah. It will not be like the Covenant I made with their forefathers."



What is the New Covenant??



Hebrews 8:6-8,13: But the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the Covenant of which he is a Mediator is SUPERIOR to the old one, and it is founded on better promises. For if there had been nothing wrong with the first covenant, no place would have been sought for another. But God found fault with the people and said, "The time is coming declares the Lord, when I will make a NEW COVENANT with the house of Israel...By calling this Covenant "NEW," He has made the first one ***OBSOLETE***; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.



The point is that the quote in Jeremiah 31:22 that a woman shall surround a man with a NIV footnote "Or will go about seeking, or will protect" after Israel returns from the Babylonian captivity is really not that important since the old covenant is OBSOLETE and we are now under the New Covenant with new commands such as:



Ephesians 4:22-24: "Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, His body, of which He is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything."



1 Timothy 2:11,12: "A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent."



I Corinthians 33-35: "As in **ALL** the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church."



However according to God's Word it is OK for a woman to teach a man in her home as per Acts 18:26: When Priscilla and Aquila heard HIM, they invited him to their home and explained to him the way of God more adequately."



And then ET made this brilliant comment:



"And since you have brought up these passages about women preaching in the church, but you have been unable to relate them to this prophecy by Jeremiah in 31:22, don't forget these are God's words not according to what Paul says, but according to what God declares that "A woman shall compass a man" and God overrules everything Paul and every man has to say."{???????}



So Your exegesis is really brilliant ET. What you are saying here is that Jeremiah 31:22 as you interpret it; is God's Word and Paul's words in I Timothy 2:11,12 and I Corinthians 14:33-35 are not inspired by God since as you say "God overrules **EVERYTHING** Paul and *EVERY MAN* has to say." It is interesting to note that the 66 books of God's Inspired Word were all written by 40 MEN!



Apparently ET refuses to obey God's Inspired Words in I Timothy 2:10,11 and I Corinthians 14:33-35.



2 Timothy 3:16; 4:2-5: **ALL** Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work...Preach the Word; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when men{And women} will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the Truth and turn aside to myths."

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Posted : 28 Jun, 2011 01:29 PM

Isaiah 40:13~ "Who hath directed the Spirit of the LORD, or being his counsellor hath taught him?" KJV...xo

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Posted : 28 Jun, 2011 02:58 PM

Women are responsible to work out their own salvation personally with God just like a man. Otherwise the man would become the "way" for a woman to find God. But 1 Cor 7:16 suggests an unbelieving man might even be saved through his wife. Therefore they are at least equal in that respect.

"God has called us to peace. 16 For how do you know, O wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, O husband, whether you will save your wife?" (1 Cor 7:15b-16).



Abigail was a good wife for David.

"He who finds a wife finds a good thing, and obtains favor from the LORD." Proverbs 18:22

Her husband was a dead man one way or another. But Abigail saved David from committing murder and became his wife. She worked on behalf of God's overall plan for a Godly seed and the Son of David.



Men and women are both divine creations, God's likeness. Man is both male and female in God's image.



A Woman is Man (humankind). Therefore a woman has a "Spiritual Man" inward and a female body. A woman's (sensual) body should not speak in the church. But a Spiritual man, as a woman, can and do. Some women are very manly. And some men are not. God makes things right.

Romans 4:17, "the God who gives life to the dead and calls things that are not as though they were." :purpleangel:

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Posted : 28 Jun, 2011 02:58 PM

Women are responsible to work out their own salvation personally with God just like a man. Otherwise the man would become the "way" for a woman to find God. But 1 Cor 7:16 suggests an unbelieving man might even be saved through his wife. Therefore they are at least equal in that respect.

"God has called us to peace. 16 For how do you know, O wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, O husband, whether you will save your wife?" (1 Cor 7:15b-16).



Abigail was a good wife for David.

"He who finds a wife finds a good thing, and obtains favor from the LORD." Proverbs 18:22

Her husband was a dead man one way or another. But Abigail saved David from committing murder and became his wife. She worked on behalf of God's overall plan for a Godly seed and the Son of David.



Men and women are both divine creations, God's likeness. Man is both male and female in God's image.



A Woman is Man (humankind). Therefore a woman has a "Spiritual Man" inward and a female body. A woman's (sensual) body should not speak in the church. But a Spiritual man, as a woman, can and do. Some women are very manly. And some men are not. God makes things right.

Romans 4:17, "the God who gives life to the dead and calls things that are not as though they were." :purpleangel:

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A Foolish Husband and the Wise Wife...
Posted : 28 Jun, 2011 03:22 PM

sheperdingking, You are so so wrong, but you seem very kind.

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Posted : 28 Jun, 2011 04:55 PM

:ROFL: Marvel that was too funnee...

Prophet again, I will say, I am NOT married to you or anyone else on this forum last time I checked therefore, when I get a my OWN husband then he and I will talk about what goes on in our house... nor are we in church therefore, there is no spiritual leadership on this forum so I don't to keep silent and listen while you a[or another teach or preach what you think is a woman is suppose to do. I refuse to liesten to anyone teahc soemthing that is not true to God word or misuse the word for their own purposes or gain... to silence me or any other women.

Now back to the topic, what are the spiritual lessons we are to learn from the story of Nabl and Abigail?

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Posted : 28 Jun, 2011 04:58 PM

Prophet why are giving half answers ot the topic question?

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Posted : 29 Jun, 2011 07:29 AM

Ella you said:

I will say, I am NOT married to you or anyone else



But i am dreaming you to marry Richard!!!! :nahnah:

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A Foolish Husband and the Wise Wife...
Posted : 29 Jun, 2011 08:32 AM

:ROFL: Bahira, you are a hot mess:excited::toomuch:

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Posted : 29 Jun, 2011 08:42 AM

Richard, you will not find anybody better than she is! :peace:



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