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Posted : 23 Jun, 2011 04:58 PM

Strongs Lexicon H2896

Prosperity

1) good, pleasant, agreeable

a) pleasant, agreeable (to the senses)

b) pleasant (to the higher nature)

c) good, excellent (of its kind)

d) good, rich, valuable in estimation

e) good, appropriate, becoming

f) better (comparative)

g) glad, happy, prosperous (of man's sensuous nature)

h) good understanding (of man's intellectual nature)

i) good, kind, benign

j) good, right (ethical)



O/T only does the word prosperity occure. These verses are pulled out of context but they are fascinating none the less...maybe the New Prosperity Jesus is all about is the Blessings His Holy Spirit bestows upon His children...Spiirtual and Material necessaties...What Yall think ???



1.Deuteronomy 23:6 ~ Thou shalt not seek their peace nor their prosperity all thy days for ever.



2.1 Samuel 25:6 ~ And thus shall ye say to him that liveth in prosperity, Peace be both to thee, and peace be to thine house, and peace be unto all that thou hast.



3.1 Kings 10:7 ~ Howbeit I believed not the words, until I came, and mine eyes had seen it: and, behold, the half was not told me: thy wisdom and prosperity exceedeth the fame which I heard.



4.Job 15:21 ~ A dreadful sound is in his ears: in prosperity the destroyer shall come upon him.



5.*** Job 36:11 ~ If they obey and serve him, they shall spend their days in prosperity, and their years in pleasures.



6.Psalm 30:6 ~ And in my prosperity I said, I shall never be moved.



7.*** Psalm 35:27 ~ Let them shout for joy, and be glad, that favour my righteous cause: yea, let them say continually, Let the LORD be magnified, which hath pleasure in the prosperity of his servant.



8.Psalm 73:3 ~ For I was envious at the foolish, when I saw the prosperity of the wicked.



9.*** Psalm 118:25 ~ Save now, I beseech thee, O LORD: O LORD, I beseech thee, send now prosperity.



10.*** Psalm 122:7 ~ Peace be within thy walls, and prosperity within thy palaces.



11.Proverbs 1:32 ~ For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them.



12.Ecclesiastes 7:14 ~ In the day of prosperity be joyful, but in the day of adversity consider: God also hath set the one over against the other, to the end that man should find nothing after him.



13.Jeremiah 22:21 ~ I spake unto thee in thy prosperity; but thou saidst, I will not hear. This hath been thy manner from thy youth, that thou obeyedst not my voice.



14.Jeremiah 33:9 ~ And it shall be to me a name of joy, a praise and an honour before all the nations of the earth, which shall hear all the good that I do unto them: and they shall fear and tremble for all the goodness and for all the prosperity that I procure unto it.



15.*** Lamentations 3:17 ~ And thou hast removed my soul far off from peace: I forgat prosperity.



16.Zechariah 1:17 ~ Cry yet, saying, Thus saith the LORD of hosts; My cities through prosperity shall yet be spread abroad; and the LORD shall yet comfort Zion, and shall yet choose Jerusalem.



17. Zechariah 7:7 ~ Should ye not hear the words which the LORD hath cried by the former prophets, when Jerusalem was inhabited and in prosperity, and the cities thereof round about her, when men inhabited the south and the plain?

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Posted : 23 Jun, 2011 06:51 PM

Prosperity was part of the OT Covenant but the *NEW** NT Covenant is totally against the Prosperity Gospel:





Hebrews 8:6,7,13: But the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which He is mediator is superior to the old one, and is founded on better promises..By calling this covenant "NEW," He has made the first one obsolete!!



Jesus says to His disciples "Teach them to obey **EVERYTHING** I commanded" in Matt 28:20.



John 14:23,24: Jesus says, "If anyone loves Me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make our home with him. He who does not love Me will not obey My teaching."



I John 2:3-5: We know that we have come to know Him {Jesus} **IF** we obey His commands. The man who says, "I know Him," but does not do what He commands is a liar, and the Truth is not in him. But if anyone obeys His Word, God's love is truly made complete in Him.





IS THE PROSPERITY GOSPEL THE GOSPEL OF SATAN??





I John 2:15,16: "Do not love the world of **ANYTHING** in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For everything in the world--the cravings of sinful man, the lust of the eyes and the boasting of what he has and does--comes not from the Father but from the world. The world and its desires pass away, but the man who does the will of God lives forever."



James 4:3,4: "When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures. You adulterous people, don't you know that friendship with the world is hatred toward God."



James 5:15 "Now listen you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming upon you. Your wealth has rotted and moths have eaten your clothes. Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the Last Days...You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves in the day of slaughter."



Matthew 6:24: Jesus says, "No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money!"



I Timothy 2:9,10: "I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God."



I Timothy 6:6-10: "But godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it. But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that. People who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge men into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs."



2 Timothy 3:1,2: But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves and lovers of money."



Hebrews 13:5: Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, "Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you."



Matthew 19:20-24: The rich man said "All these {commandments} I have kept. What do I still lack?" Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. *THEN** come , follow Me." When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.

Then Jesus said to His disciples, "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."



The Prosperity Gospel is truly the Gospel of Satan.

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Posted : 23 Jun, 2011 08:15 PM

prophet you are on dangerous grounds and you are with out a doubt speaking out against the lord Jesus Christ and you are wrong and grossly wrong. It would bring grave concern as to you have any light.

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Posted : 23 Jun, 2011 08:33 PM

PJ Do you have any NT Scripture that proves the Scripture I have quoted is wrong and that shows that the Prosperity Gospel is not a Gospel of Satan:devil:??

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Posted : 23 Jun, 2011 08:34 PM

Prophet according to you food of this world is no Good, oh brother, listen if satan is lord don't worry you have nothing to say, for nobody can be saved, according to you, amazing you would exalt Satan over the lord, and do it publicly.

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Posted : 23 Jun, 2011 09:27 PM

Did the early saints practice the Prosperity Gospel??



Acts 2:44,45: "All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need."



Acts 4:32,34: " All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared everything they had... There were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put hem at the apostles feet, and it was distributed to anyone as he had need."

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Posted : 23 Jun, 2011 09:31 PM

Do the very poor saints in Asia, Africa and South America who live on a few dollars a day participate in the Prosperity Gospel??

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Posted : 24 Jun, 2011 04:26 AM

Of course they do if they are saved, if you think the jews don't know the blessing you don't know Jesus.

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Posted : 24 Jun, 2011 04:29 AM

Exodus 20:12 Honor your father & your mother, so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you.



Isn�t this a promise of long life & prosperity? And isn�t prosperity subjective? I see it wrong to say that poor people in Asia are not prosperous because you never know. From someone�s profile on here I read this line which I strongly agree: � That man is richest whose pleasures are the cheapest.�



I believe there are a lot more people having less feeling prosperous and have peace than people who have more feeling less prosperous, chasing more wealth he could not spend in his lifetime and have no peace of mind. I believe no matter what the circumstance is, there is prosperity and peace of mind in God�s presence. What is pleasing, beautiful, good, godly, think about such things.

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Posted : 24 Jun, 2011 04:57 AM

Mercymay:



Again you are quoting OT Scripture to confirm the Prosperity Gospel. Do you have and NT Scripture under the New Covenant that contradicts the teaching of Jesus to the rich , prosperous man in Matthew 19:21 to "sell all your possessions and give to the poor and you will have treasure in heaven and *THEN* come follow Me."



Also part of the New Covenant are the following commands:



Hebrews 8:6,7,13: But the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which He is mediator is superior to the old one, and is founded on better promises..By calling this covenant "NEW," He has made the first one obsolete!!



Jesus says to His disciples "Teach them to obey **EVERYTHING** I commanded" in Matt 28:20.



John 14:23,24: Jesus says, "If anyone loves Me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make our home with him. He who does not love Me will not obey My teaching."



I John 2:3-5: We know that we have come to know Him {Jesus} **IF** we obey His commands. The man who says, "I know Him," but does not do what He commands is a liar, and the Truth is not in him. But if anyone obeys His Word, God's love is truly made complete in Him.



IS THE PROSPERITY GOSPEL THE GOSPEL OF SATAN??



I John 2:15,16: "Do not love the world of **ANYTHING** in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For everything in the world--the cravings of sinful man, the lust of the eyes and the boasting of what he has and does--comes not from the Father but from the world. The world and its desires pass away, but the man who does the will of God lives forever."



James 4:3,4: "When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures. You adulterous people, don't you know that friendship with the world is hatred toward God."



James 5:15 "Now listen you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming upon you. Your wealth has rotted and moths have eaten your clothes. Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the Last Days...You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves in the day of slaughter."



Matthew 6:24: Jesus says, "No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money!"



I Timothy 2:9,10: "I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God."



I Timothy 6:6-10: "But godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it. But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that. People who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge men into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs."



2 Timothy 3:1,2: But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves and lovers of money."



Surely the Prosperity Gospel as taught by Osteen and many others is the Gospel of Satan and contradicts the Teachings of Jesus and the New Covenant.

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Posted : 24 Jun, 2011 05:06 AM

The truth is taught by those that believe,those that do no not believe are not capable of teaching, and you have and do continually give place to satan with your words. The old Covenant is not obsolete, amazing statement.



When does truth change prophet?

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