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The New Heaven, the New Earth and the New Jerusalem!!
Posted : 21 Jun, 2011 04:15 PM

WHAT WILL THE NEW HEAVEN BE LIKE AND WHEN IS IT COMING??



John 14:23: Jesus says, �In My Father's house are many rooms,; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you I will come back and take you to be with Me that you also may be where I am.�



I Cor 15:20-24: �But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the FIRSTFRUITS of those who have fallen asleep...For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. But each in his own turn: Christ the FIRSTFRUITS; then when He comes, **THOSE WHO BELONG TO HIM**. {*THEN*} the {*END*} will come, when He hands over the kingdom to God the Father after He has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.�



2 Peter 7,10,13: �The present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the Day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men... But the DAY OF THE LORD {See I Cor 1:7,8} will come like a thief.{To unbelievers-I Thess 5:4,5} The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be burned up... But in keeping with His promise we are looking forward to a NEW HEAVEN and a NEW EARTH, the Home of righteousness.� :applause:



Rev 21 1:1-3: Then I saw a NEW HEAVEN and a NEW EARTH, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. {THEN} I saw the NEW JERUSALEM, coming down out of heaven from God...,And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, �Now the dwelling of God is with men, and He will live with them!! They will be his people, and God himself will be with him and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.� He was seated on the throne said �I am making EVERYTHING NEW!�:peace:



You will note that the New Jerusalem will come only *AFTER the present heaven and earth have passed away on the DAY OF THE LORD! {See 2 Peter 3:10 above!!} {See Hebrews 11:10,14-16; 39,40!}



**EVERYTHING NEW**! would include New Heavenly bodies for all God's saints exactly like that of Jesus!



I Corinthians 15:49,51: �And just as we have borne the likeness of the earthly man, so shall we bear the likeness of the Man from heaven. {See Rev 1:11-18}...Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we ALL will be changed�in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the Last {Or 7th} trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable and we will be changed.�



**EVERYTHING NEW**! would also include new heavenly animals which will all be vegetarians!!



Isaiah 11:6-9: �The wolf will live with the lamb, the leopard will lie down with the goat, the calf and the lion and the yearling together. The cow will feed with the bear, their young will lie down together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox. They will neither harm nor destroy."



After the marriage Feast of the Lamb in Rev 19:7-9 the saints will follow Jesus on heavenly white horses! Rev 19:14: The armies of heaven were following Him, riding on **WHITE HORSES** and dressed in fine linen white and clean.� These WHITE HORSES {Which don't need gas!} may be our transportation in the beautiful New Earth.



The ancient Greek stadiums were all exactly 606 feet long. Revelation 21:15,16: The angel had a measuring rod of Gold to measure the New Jerusalem. He measured the City and found it to be 12,000 stadia {606 ft} in length, and as wide and high as it is long. 12,000 times 606 ft is a little over 1377 miles long. wide and high. The New Jerusalem will have streets of gold like transparent glass {Rev 21:21} and walls and foundations made of 12 different precious stones.{Rev 21:19,20}



According to Rev 21:1 there will no longer be any sea but there will be a beautiful river in the Heavenly New Jerusalem which is over 1377 miles long, wide and high: Rev 22:1,2: Then the angel showed me the river of the Water of Life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God {The Father} and of the Lamb down the middle of the great street of the City.� Rev 22:2: On each side of the River stood the Tree of Life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month.



I have heard rumors that we will definitely ride dolphins and possibly surf board on heavenly gators.



EVERYTHING NEW would also include millions of new heavenly friends who will love us deeply from the heart just the way we are as per I Peter 1:22!!



Jesus says in Rev 2:17; 3:4, 5, 21: �To him who overcomes...I will give a white stone with a new name written on it, known only to him who receives it.:rolleyes:....He will walk with Me for he is worthy:glow:..... I will acknowledge his name before My Father and His angels.... I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem.....I will write on him my New Name... and I will give him the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.� According to Rev 22:3 these 2 thrones will be the only thrones in the Heavenly New Jerusalem!.



Daniel 12:3: �Those who impart wisdom will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness like the stars for ever and ever.�:rolleyes:

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The New Heaven, the New Earth and the New Jerusalem!!
Posted : 22 Jun, 2011 10:59 AM

Prophet,



I just do not think like you here:



**EVERYTHING NEW**! would also include new heavenly animals which will all be vegetarians!!



Isaiah 11:6-9: �The wolf will live with the lamb, the leopard will lie down with the goat, the calf and the lion and the yearling together. The cow will feed with the bear, their young will lie down together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox. They will neither harm nor destroy."



Because I think that the Scripture says here about the Millennium reign of Jesus on earth. And 'the wolf will live with the lamb' it means sinners/unbelievers/Arabs will live for 1,000 years and they will not harm people anymore, nor will rage any wars. They are wolfs and they will not harm lambs/believers. Only after 1,000 years they will attack Jesus again. And then the end will come. But the end will be only for them. We will move to the New Earth/New Jerusalem.

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Posted : 22 Jun, 2011 12:25 PM

�IS THE 1,000 YEAR FIRST RESURRECTION IN REVELATION 20:4-6 FOR THE 24 ELDERS ON THRONES AND MARTYRS ONLY??





Jesus promised to 12 Apostles who followed Him {Including Paul?} that they would be given 12 THRONES and the authority to JUDGE in Matthew 19:28 & Luke 22:30. In Revelation 4:4 Before the beginning of the Great Tribulation John saw exactly 24 thrones surrounding God's Throne in Heaven. The other 12 thrones were most likely given to 12 prominent OT Elders such as Abraham, Joseph and Isaiah.



One of these 24 Elders speaks in Rev 7:13-17 and after the 7TH angel sounds the 7TH and Last Trumpet in Revelation 11:15; ONLY the 24 Elders state in Rev 11:16-18: �The time has come for JUDGING the dead and for rewarding your saints.�



��It is completely obvious that the 1,000 year reign mentioned in Revelation 20:4-6 is for 24 ELDERS on Thrones and MARTYRS ONLY according to God's Word in Revelation 20:4,5b,6a:



"I saw Thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to JUDGE and I saw the SOULS of those who had been beheaded {Or martyred} because of their testimony for Jesus {NT Martyrs} and because of the Word of God {OT Martyrs}. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands {Tribulation Martyrs}. THEY {THE 24 ELDERS & MARTYRS} came to life and reigned with Christ for 1,000 years... This is the FIRST RESURRECTION... Blessed and holy are those who have part in the FIRST RESURRECTION.



Rev 20:5a: �The rest of the dead {Those saints who are not martyrs or the 24 Elders on Thrones} did not come to life until the 1,000 years were ENDED.� Which, of course, would be the SECOND RESURRECTION at the 2nd Coming of Jesus. There are only TWO RESURRECTIONS for all saints mentioned in Rev 20:4-6: The FIRST RESURRECTION is for Martyrs and the 24 Elders only and INCLUDES the Tribulation Martyrs. And therefore the SECOND RESURRECTION must come on the Last Day of the Great Tribulation and must include all saints {Both OT & NT} who are not martyrs or the 24 Elders on thrones.



The Heavenly rewards for the faithful and courageous *MARTYRS* is one of the most important central themes in the book of Revelation. For they will reign with Jesus in Heaven during the 1,000 years before His 2nd Coming; and according to Revelation 7:14-17: They are before the Throne of God and God will spread His tent over them. They will receive White Robes washed in the blood of the Lamb. Never again will they hunger or thirst and God Himself will wipe every tear from their eyes. Jesus will be their Shepherd and will lead them to springs of Living Water.



FOR EXAMPLE: Let us suppose that the SECOND RESURRECTION takes place on December 2nd, 2014; then the continuous 1,000 year FIRST RESURRECTION for MARTYRS AND 24 ELDERS ONLY would take place from December 2nd, AD 1014 to December 2nd, 2014. The 24 Elders and all of the OT & NT saints martyred before December 2nd, 1014 were awakened to reign with Jesus in Heaven and every Martyr martyred after December 2nd, 1014 were and will be immediately awakened to reign with Jesus in the continuous 1,000 year FIRST RESURRECTION to be completed on December 2nd, 2014 at the SECOND RESURRECTION when "The rest of the dead come to life when the thousand years are ENDED." {Rev 20:5a}



Rev 20:4b �I saw the *SOULS of those who had been martyred because of their testimony for Jesus... they came to life and reigned with Christ for 1,000 years. The Martyrs SOULS will only get their New Heavenly bodies when the 1,000 years are ENDED at the 2nd Coming of Jesus.



This seems to contradict John 6:40: Jesus says, �EVERYONE who looks to the Son and believes in Him shall have eternal life and I will raise him up at the LAST DAY.� However, the LAST DAY RESURRECTION could last 1,000 years for in 2 Peter 3:8 we read: �With the Lord a DAY is like 1,000 years, and 1,000 years are like a DAY!!

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