Brothers, why here we read that Jesus will return only with 10,000 saints and not all millions of christians who are saved?
Enoch prophesied about these men also, saying, "Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints,
"to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him."
Actually the KJV translates Jude 1:14 10 thousands not 10 thousand and The NIV correctly translates thousands upon thousands. So the exact count could be millions or an unlimited number.
There will be 2 comings of Jesus on the Last Day of the 1260-day Great Tribulation . The first coming is *FOR* His saints and the second coming on the same day is *WITH* His saints or His Called Chosen and Faithful to destroy 666:devil: his false prophet:devil: and their armies {Rev 19:20} 666 and his 10 kings and their armies {Rev 17:14}.or to destroy and judge all the wicked Jude 14} This second coming of Jesus *WITH* His saints is mentioned in Revelation 19:10-20 just after the marriage Feast of the Lamb in Rev 19:7-9 and also in Rev 17:14 and in the verse you mentioned in Jude 1:14.
Rev 17:12-14: The 10 kings you saw are 10 kings..They have one purpose and will give their authority to the Beast :devil:{666}. They will make war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will overcome them because He is Lord of lords and King of kings--and with Him will be His called, chosen and faithful followers."
after the marriage Feast of the Lamb in Rev 19:7-9 we read in Rev 19:11,14,19-21: I saw heaven standing open and before me was a white horse, whose Rider is called Faithful and True...The armies of Heaven were following Him riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen white and clean {See Rev 19:8!}....The I saw the Beast :devil:{666} and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to make war against the Rider on the horse and His army {The called, chosen and faithful-Rev 17:14 Or thousands upon thousands of His holy ones {Jude 14}But the Beast:devil: was captured, and with him the False Prophet:devil:...the two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. The rest of them were killed with the sword that came out of the mouth of the Rider on the horse."
And then they joined 666 and his false prophet in hell {See Matthew 25:31,32,41,46}
Jude 14{NIV}: "See the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands {or 10 thousands-KJV} of His holy ones {Or The called chosen and faithful as per Rev 17:14 and riding on white horses following Jesus as per Rev 19:11,14} to judge everyone, and to convict all the ungodly." {See Matthew 25:31,32,41,46}
Remember the Book of Enoch is a non-cannical book left out of the Bible because they were found not to be on the same level with the other books gathered for the New Testament. It is felt that Jude was only quoting what Enoch had said that was a truth. Out of all the commentaries I have read on this prophecy, no one has made mention that Jesus spoke simular words when He said He could have call of His Father and His Father would sent forth 12 legion of angels to fight for Him. Therefore, my spiritual insights would suggest to me that maybe what Enoch is speaking about is a prophecy from God sending forth 2 legions of His saints, as you know God tells us the saints are also ministering spirits and are as angels... so maybe 10 thousand saints coming with Christ to judge is the same as 2 legions, and is compared to what Jesus said in Matthew 26:53.But all we can do is spiritually guess...
Here is a commentary by Burton Coffman, hope this helps explain the verses
Verse 14. And to these also Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied, saying, Behold the Lord came with ten thousands of his holy ones, And to these ..."These" are the false teachers, the evil men about whom God has already given a number of prophetic messages, in such events as his punishing the Israelites, destroying the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, and in the punishments like those which befell Cain, Balaam and Korah; and, in addition to all that, "also" Enoch made a prophecy.
Enoch, the seventh from Adam ...Well, here at last we have "Enoch." This is the first and only reference to him in this letter, and this verse is the only thing in Jude that may fairly be connected with him. Jude's use of Enoch's prophecy stamps that prophecy as the gospel truth, but it does absolutely nothing for the apocryphal "Book of Enoch," rightfully rejected as having no canonical value, and being quite ridiculous, fanciful, and false. As the footnote in the Catholic Bible says, "The Book of Enoch is apocryphal. St. Jude does not here approve the entire book, but only this prophecy." F40 The false book of Enoch was widely known in apostolic times, and it was quite natural that Jude would have referred to the famous prophecy allegedly made by Enoch. It could be that Jude, by singling out this prophecy as true, meant that the Biblical character Enoch indeed uttered it, which for all anyone knows may be the truth; but that meaning is not at all mandatory. It was likely merely the manner of identifying the prophecy, which Jude attributed to its alleged source, instead of reference to a book of so many errors. Another New Testament parallel of exactly this procedure by Paul himself is that of his quoting the prophet Epimenides the pagan writer, calling him "one of your own prophets," and recalling his line that, "Cretans are always liars" (Titus 1:12). Should it be inferred, then, that Paul "borrowed" the book of Titus from the pagan prophet? It is exactly that kind of logic that ascribes two thirds of Jude to the apocryphal book of Enoch. Paul also quoted heathen poets and an inscription from a heathen monument in his famed address in the city of Athens (Acts 17), approving of neither by so doing.
Before leaving the question of Enoch's having been a true prophet of God (we are not referring to the book of Enoch), it might be well to recall that Enoch "walked with God" in a very intimate fashion, that he was translated, not even tasting of death, and that he named his son Methuselah, bearing the prophetic meaning of "he dieth, and the flood cometh." F41 Therefore, we may surely believe Jude's account of God's using Enoch to utter a prophecy of the destruction of evil men. Indeed, the name of his son is exactly such a prophecy. Beyond all these considerations, there is also the possibility that Jude's information concerning Enoch's prophecy did not depend in any manner upon the book of Enoch; either some other prior source, or his own divine inspiration, or both, may have been behind this quotation.
Behold the Lord came with ten thousand of his holy ones ...
This clause, along with all of Jude 1:15, is the prophecy of Enoch. Caton summarized it thus:
Here is what Enoch, inspired of God, told the people of his day. He warned them of a general judgment, when the Lord would come. He assured them that the Lord would come, accompanied by ten thousands of his saints; or, as the Syriac has it, "with myriads of his saints." F42
Behold the Lord came ...The past tense in such passages is actually the prophetic tense, a frequently observed phenomenon in the Bible. God's prophecies are so certain of fulfillment that the prophet speaks of them in the past tense. The first word of this prophecy (Behold the Lord came) is Maran atha (not Marana tha), a reference in the past tense (used prophetically for the future). F43 As Macknight observed, the first word of this prophecy was widely known and used by the apostles and the early church, Paul doing so in 1 Cor. 16:22. This is very significant with regard to apostolic use of this expression, indicating that "Maran atha" probably has the meaning of "The Lord has come" in his incarnation, instead of being an invocation looking to the Second Advent. See further notes on this in my Commentary on 1 Corinthians, pp. 284, 285.
Verse 15... to execute judgment upon all, and to convict all the ungodly of all their works of ungodliness which they have ungodly wrought, and of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
This prophecy came quite early in human history; and there is no sacred writer, no apostle, no prophet, and not even the Lord himself, who exercised his ministry, except in the shadow of this promise of a day of judgment when God will settle his accounts with the wicked men who have despised him. The fact of this prophecy colors every page of the Bible; and he is a vain and willful sinner indeed who dares to order his life as if this were not the truth.
Execute judgment ... This phrase occurs "only here and in John 5:27"; F44 but significantly, in John it occurs upon the lips of Jesus Christ himself.
Of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against him ... There is no possibly summary of these that could be given. They are as extensive and voluminous as all the libraries of earth combined. Train loads of books pour out of great publishing houses every month, being directed in a large part, against God, against the Bible, against Christianity, against all truth and righteousness. This characteristic engagement of wicked men in speaking against God manifested itself in a particularly venomous and unreasonable degree during the personal ministry of God in the flesh, Jesus our Lord; and, in this series, we have compiled a list of some 23 vicious lies and slanders that were launched against Christ by evil men. See my Commentary on Luke, pp. 193,194.
Jude 1:9: It is quoted from the apocryphal book of Enoch, directly, or from a tradition based upon it. The passage in Enoch is as follows:
"Behold he comes with ten thousands of his saints, to execute judgment upon them, and to destroy the wicked, and to strive (at law) with all the carnal for everything which the sinful and ungodly have done and committed against him."
