So passover, are you saying that the communion which we tajke is not be be taken anymore becasue Jesus was with the disciples when He administrated it? And when Jesus said AS OFTEN as you eat thisb read and drink of this cup, you do this to show the Lord's death till He returnss."...key operative word here is as OFTEN... Are you saying, this no longer has meaning? I Corinthians chapter11..
Also, are you saying that Jesus as our supreme example and we are to image Him in our lives, this is not necessary, and when Jesus said for us to be holy for He is holy, He wasn't talking about us?
And when Paul exhorts all believers in Romans chpater 12, saying Therefore, I beseech you brethern/sistern, by the mercies of God that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, HOLY, and acceptable to God, this is your reasonable service. This is to be over looked as welll.
Also,When Paul tells us this in Ephesians chpater 1, According to as He (God) chosen us in Him before the foundation of the world, that WE SHOULD BE HOLY AND WITHOUT BLAME BEFORE HIM IN LOVE... are you saying we are to overlook this as well?
I'm just trying to get a clear understanding of your topic and comments about what is expected out of us as believers who are being comfromed into the image of Christ.. and what isn't according to your understanding of what God says in His word...
Colossians chapter 1 tells us this, And you who were sometimes aliented and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now Jesus has reconciled you in the body of His flesh through death, to present you HOLY and unblamable and unreprovable in His sight. Are you saying this is to apply to believers, only when we go to heaven before God? or what?
Just a few more then I'm finished becasue there are so many passge I can present that is against what you have commented in your toipc. I'm hoping you will be able to SPLAIN these passage to me as to what they mean as in accordance with your beliefs, that we are to just do our best and God will do the rest, and we should not concern ourselves with trying to be holy or whatever anymore?... although Paul calls the saints holy throughout his writings.
2 Timothy chapter 1 tells us that God has sgiven us a holy calling, so if this is the case, then are we to represent such a holy calling? How can we represent a holy claling if we are not holy or trying to change or lives to be holy?
I Peter chapter 1 :15 tells us this, But as He who has called you is HOLY, so you also be HOLY in all manner of conversation, because it is written YOU BE HOLY, FOR I AM HOLY...
ok, ok, One more, one more... then I'm finished...
I Peter chpater 2 says this, To whom coming(Christ) as to a living stone, disallowed indeed if men, but was chosen of God, and precious, You also as lively stones are built up as a spiritual house, a HOLY priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God by Jesus Christ...Verse 9, But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a HOLY nation, a perculair people that you should show forth the praise of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light....
Ok, so passover... if I have read your topic and comments correctly, I would like to know how it is that you don't think all believers are called to be holy, based on scriptures that I have posted, and that we are to ingnore the taking of the communion which is known as the Lord's Supper as Paul calls it? Correct me if I have misunderstood your comments and topic...
And Whose life and Sacrifice will you be trusting.
Your OWN or Yehsua's
One is Salvation of Yeshua in Faith
and He even gives us FAiTH to believehm.
The other is WORKS.
Before anyone is able to trust Yeshua,He has to give them Life and Faith to trust him to save them from the Wrath of GOD ALMIGHTY against sin.
After trusting Yeshua,everything contained in the Scriptures is possible,As the Holy Spirit enables them to believe.
Yet everyone will continually fail and fall short of Yeshuas' life.
That is the reason Yeshua IMPUTES to everyone born from above.
Yeshua imputes to us;
His Justification of the sinner.
His righteousness.
His Holiness
His Sanctification
And Yeshua gives the Life of GOD to the believer.
John 10:10 The thief does not come except that he may steal, and kill, and destroy. I came that they may have life and may have it abundantly.
John_15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
I know that what i had written might not be understood by many,yet that is what the Scriptures to say.
GOD HAS PROMISED IN JEREMIAH 29:13: YOU WILL FIND ME WHEN YOU SEEK ME WITH **ALL YOUR HEART**.�:applause:
John 14:23: Jesus says, �If anyone loves Me, he will obey My teaching, My Father will love him, and We will make Our home with him.� Matthew 28:19.20� Jesus commands, �Go and make disciples of all nations... teaching them to *OBEY EVERYTHING I have commanded you!� {See I John 2:3-5}
So let us read God's Word daily {Acts 17:11} and then *DO WHAT IT SAYS*! {James 1:22,25}:rolleyes:
Acts 17:11: �The Bereans were of noble character, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures *EVERY DAY*!�:rolleyes:
James 1:22,25: �Do not merely listen to the Word. *DO WHAT IT SAYS*!... and he who continues to do this, not forgetting what he has heard, but *DOING IT*�will be blessed in what he does.:rolleyes:
Matthew 16:27; Jesus says, �The Son of Man is going to come in **HIS FATHER'S GLORY WITH HIS ANGELS** {See Matt 24:30,31 & 2 Thess 1:6-10}, and *THEN* He will reward each person according to what he has done.� Revelation 22:12: Jesus says, �Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with Me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done!� {When Jesus comes in His Father's glory with His angels} 2 Corinthians 5:10: For we must all appear before the Judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, {When Jesus comes in His Father's glory with His angels} whether good or bad.�
Ephesians 2:8-10: It is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this is NOT from yourselves, it is the GIFT of God--not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. So Salvation is the ***FREE GIFT*** of God's grace and good works can only be performed by the saved.
Daniel 12:3: �Those who impart wisdom will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness, like the stars for ever and ever!�
Matthew 5:14,16: Jesus says, �You are the LIGHT of the world...Let your LIGHT shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven.
I Corinthians 3:6-9: Paul says, �The Lord has assigned to each his task. I planted the seed. Apollos watered it, but God made it grow... The man who plants and the man who waters have one purpose, and each will be rewarded according to his own labor. For we are God's fellow workers!�:peace:
So let our lights *SHINE* with the many gifts God has given us and we can have a REVIVAL with the hope of countless eternal rewards for faithful and loving service.
I Corinthians 1:7: For �You do not lack any spiritual gift as you eagerly wait for our Lord Jesus Christ to be *REVEALED*!�:angel:
So passover henwe read about about Gd's requirements to be holy, what does God mean about this? I had hoped you woud explian those passages I posted since they are found in the Bible...
Faith and trust are important, and I would say that they could be considered as the "first steps" to salvation. When you have faith in God and trust Him, that leads you to accept His free gift of salvation (Eph. 2:8). When we accept that gift, our old, sinful self has died (Rom. 6:1-4) and a new creation is born (2 Cor 5:17).
So, as new creations/Christians, we have a higher calling (1 Pet. 2:4-12). We are to live holy lives - letting our light shine (Matt. 5:14-16) and modeling our attitudes after Jesus Christ (Phil. 2).
It's important to remember that James tells us point blank that faith without deeds is dead (Jm. 2:20). We should be so transformed by God's love that we DO something about it.
I don't think a person has to wait around, doing nothing, for God to just provide a certain level of righteousness. I believe that we grow closer to God based on our actions - reading the Bible, praying, serving/loving others, etc. We can learn more about the true nature of God and Jesus if we model our lives after their examples.
I Peter 1:22: "Now that you have purified yourselves by obeying the truth so that you have sincere **LOVE** for your brothers, l**LOVE** one another deeply, from the heart.":rolleyes:
I Corinthians 13:2,4-8: If I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not **LOVE** I am nothing...**LOVE** is patient, **LOVE** is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. **LOVE** does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. **LOVE** never fails!!":applause:
John 13:34: Jesus says, "A NEW command I give you: **LOVE** one another As I have loved you, so you must **LOVE** one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples.":rolleyes:
John 14:23: Jesus says, �If anyone **LOVES** Me, he will obey My teaching, My Father will **LOVE** him, and We will make Our home with him.�
Matthew 28:19.20� Jesus commands, �Go and make disciples of all nations... teaching them to *OBEY EVERYTHING* I have commanded you!� {See I John 2:3-5}:peace:
EVERYTHING would also include all the other commands in God's inspired Word from Acts to Revelation as per 2 Timothy 3:16: 4:2: "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work...Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction.
If we really **LOVE** our brothers and sister in Christ we will lovingly teach them to obey all the approximately 400 commands of the NT with **LOVE** in the hope of countless eternal rewards when Jesus comes with great power with all His angels:angel::angel::angel::angel:.
Revelation 22:112: Jesus says,"Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with Me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done!?
Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, For the Son of Man is going to come in His **FATHER'S GLORY WITH HIS ANGELS:angel::angel::angel:**, and **THEN** He will reward each person according to what he has done."
Ephesians 4:15: "Speaking the Truth in **LOVE**, we will in all things grow up into Him who is the Head, that is, Christ!":applause:
