Thread: Is Adding & Taking Words Away from God's Word a Unpardonable Sin?
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Is Adding & Taking Words Away from God's Word a Unpardonable Sin?
Posted : 12 Jun, 2011 02:07 PM
IS "ADDING" OR "TAKING WORDS AWAY" FROM GOD'S WORD AN UNPARDONABLE SIN??
Deuteronomy 4:2 God says, "Do not *ADD* to what I command and do not *SUBTRACT* from it, but keep the commands of the Lord your God that I give you.
COMPARED WITH:
Rev 22:16,18,19: Rev 22:16,18,19: Jesus says, �I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give *YOU* {The Greek for YOU is plural} this testimony {ALL OF REVELATION} *FOR* the CHURCHES.�... �I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book. If anyone *ADDS* anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone *TAKES WORDS AWAY* from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city which are described in this book.�
The main difference between these 2 passages is that it is definitely an unpardonable sin to ADD or TAKE WORDS AWAY from the prophecies in Revelation since you will be denied entry into the Holy City the New Jerusalem described in this book. This could easily apply to the Roman Catholic Preterists who *TEACH* everything in Revelation has already taken place and nothing in Revelation will take place in the future.
However, I don't think this unpardonable sin would apply to every Roman Catholic but only should apply to all who teach the "Taking words away" from Revelation through Preterism.
Interesting question: Since Luther and Calvin did not believe that Revelation was part of God's Word did they commit the unpardonable sin of **TAKING WORDS AWAY** from the prophecies in Revelation?? Are the vast majority of Calvinistic Christian Reformed ministers who never preach a sermon on Revelation guilty of *TAKING WORDS AWAY* from the prophecies in Revelation??
Question : Is it an unpardonable sin to ADD or SUBTRACT Words from the NT Commandments in the other 26 books of the NT? Many passages in the NT imply that this ADDING or SUBTRACTING Words from the NT Gospel is a terrible sin but does allow you to repent such as Paul who persecuted and killed God's saints.
THE GREAT COMMISSION;
Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, "***ALL AUTHORITY*** in heaven and earth has been given to Me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations...teaching them to obey **EVERYTHING** I commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very END of the age."
And EVERYTHING would also include all the commands in Acts to Revelation which are God breathed as per 2 Timothy 3:16-4:4.
Unfortunately there are many churches that have *ADDED* a whole bunch of garbage which is not mentioned in the NT Scriptures such as the worship of anyone besides The Father and Jesus or of praying to anyone besides God the Father as per Matt 6:9 & Luke 11:2. These are of course terrible sins but can be repented of while ADDING or TAKING WORDS AWAY from Revelation is an unpardonable sin as per Rev 22:18,19.
Is Adding & Taking Words Away from God's Word a Unpardonable Sin?
Posted : 12 Jun, 2011 04:16 PM
An interesting topic, Prophetic. I believe the initial goal of this was to keep the translations as pure and unadulterated as possible. But we see that what Christ was providing for us was to make sure there was never any doubt that no other writings could be equated with the Holy Scripture, as in the Book of Mormon, the Qur'an, etc.
I wonder about interpretations. When I have misunderstood a Scripture, am I adding or taking away? I am comforted that the Lord knows my limited brain and provides ways for me to discover the Truth behind Scripture. Since He knows my heart also, He knows when I am sincerely mistaken. Yet, this does not free me from my responsibility to get a message correct.
It may appear over-simplistic, but my sin takes away from the Word. Many is the time I have had to confess I have known the right thing to do, but I have not done it. (James 4:17) I may not be re-writing Scripture or adding to that which is accepted as the Bible, but I am being disingenuous.
I personally have no problem reading or considering the Gnostic scriptures as "writings of the time." In no way do they equate to the Biblical writings. I consider them of historical signifigance, interesting, and examples of competing wrings and interpretations of a sect. They were deemed unfit to be contained in the Bible by the council in Nicea and that is good enough for me. I have read from the Book of Mormon, and all it does is make me shake my head. I have a copy of the Qur'an which I refer to to get information when I read a passage in the media or quoted by Muslims.
I am not sure if we have the authority to declare that adding or taking away from Scripture is "unpardonable." It certainly is serious, but is it the blasphemy of which Christ speaks of in Mark 3?
Is Adding & Taking Words Away from God's Word a Unpardonable Sin?
Posted : 12 Jun, 2011 04:53 PM
Actually there were **FOUR** unpardonable sins added to God's Word in AD 96 when Jesus gave the last book of God's Word to the Churches {See Rev 22:16}
In Rev 14:9-12 God absolutely promises eternal torment in hell to any one who {*1*} worships 666:devil: or his statue or {*2*} receives his :devil:mark on his forehead or right hand and anyone {*3} who *TAKES WORDS AWAY* from the prophecies in Revelation will *NEVER* enter the Holy City {The New Jerusalem} and anyone who {*4} *ADDS* anything to the promises in Revelation to him will be added *ALL* the plagues mentioned in Revelation which of course would include eternal Hell as per Rev 22:18,19.
Is Adding & Taking Words Away from God's Word a Unpardonable Sin?
Posted : 12 Jun, 2011 09:03 PM
Ridley, you are so right in spiritual insight in this matter. What God is speaking about in Revelation chapter 22:18-19, is about those who WILLFULLY add what they would like to add for their OWN personal gain or insight. I don't think God is speaking about those of us who sometimes misunderstand what God is saying, in error, but He isspeaking about those whowillfully distort what God speak about Jesus Christ Himself and the revelation God gave to John in unbelief.
As we are taught let God be true and every man be a liar... and the curse of willfully distorting what God has given to John in this book of prophecy Revelation is damnation, as God so speaks, in verse 19, And if anyone shall take away from the WORDS of the book (meaning willfully subtract from the turht of this prophecy, and add their OWN word to fit their purposes), "God will take away his/her part out of the book of life, and out of the holy coity and from the things which are written in the book."
This si why we are also warned not to read the book of Daniel or Revelation unless we are willing to spiritually hear what it speaks and spiritually understands what it says. These rae God's words from His mouth about His Son Jesus Christ, so no one has authority to change what God has spoken about His Son, but God Himself... He is not speaking about us who make honest mistakes trying to understand what He is saying, but there are those who will twist this prophecy to make it thier own as if God gave the revelation to them in disbelief of what is written...and this is unbelief and distortion of God's truth.
Is Adding & Taking Words Away from God's Word a Unpardonable Sin?
Posted : 12 Jun, 2011 09:44 PM
It is certainly true that there are no second chances or exceptions when you worship 666 or receive his mark. However I believe that if someone honestly misinterprets some of the prophecies in Revelation that he would not be guilty of the unpardonable sins mentioned but if someone purposely teaches something in Revelation that he knows to be false because it is popular in his church to do so or has some other sinful selfish motive only then is it an unpardonable sin.
I also don't believe Luther and Calvin didn't commit this unpardonable sin even though they didn't believe Revelation was part of God's Word since they were brainwashed in the evil allegoric symbolic Roman Catholic teaching about Revelation which they knew had to be wrong.
Is Adding & Taking Words Away from God's Word a Unpardonable Sin?
Posted : 12 Jun, 2011 09:57 PM
I'm withcha on that prophet, I don't believe Luther or Calvin purposely substracted or added to God's word. I think they did what God told them to do and understood the best they could, consideering the fact that they themsleves were tryign to get thier own spiritual life in ordr with God. These men have left a great legacy in biblical studies, but its the men who came after them who have misinterpreted what they have written, just as men are doing today with the word of God.
There is nothing more to say that has already been written and many scholars and thelogians are still trying to rewrite what God is saying and has already said to fit their OWN purposes and understanding, and messing things up.
God's word is very clear, and we are nto told to interpret His word, we are told to allow the Holy Spriti of God to REVEAL to us the things of word, and about God...and this is where so many mistakes and bad and worng teahcings and doctrines come into play. Noone is waiting for the Holy Spirit to do His work, they are trying to do His work for Him by interreting what they THINK God is speaking about Himself and in His word....
They will even misinterpret Jesus wekpt, and make it mean something completely different than what it means Jesus not only wept for Lazarus but He also weeps for us, and it break His heart everyday to see His people in the condition of disobedience when He has left us His maual for good Christian living and many blessings if we obey His word ...
Is Adding & Taking Words Away from God's Word a Unpardonable Sin?
Posted : 12 Jun, 2011 10:30 PM
I love what you said here Prophet:
Unfortunately there are many churches that have *ADDED* a whole bunch of garbage which is not mentioned in the NT Scriptures such as the worship of anyone besides The Father ...
:applause:
Prophet, i have a request. Please explain me why do you think that the tribulation period will be 3,1/2 years.
I want to know it for sure cuz Muslims think that the the islamic anti-christ will reign over 7 years....
I just need to hear ur thoughts related to it... :waving:
Is Adding & Taking Words Away from God's Word a Unpardonable Sin?
Posted : 13 Jun, 2011 06:15 AM
WHAT ARE THE 3 PASSAGES IN GOD'S WORD WHICH SHOW THAT THE GREAT TRIBULATION AND THE REIGN OF 666 WILL LAST EXACTLY 1260 DAYS OR 42 {30-DAY} MONTHS??
**{#1}** Daniel 12:1b,2,7b:� �There will be a time of distress {The Great Tribulation} such as not happened from the beginning of nations until then.� But at that time {The Last Day} your people--*EVERYONE* whose name is found written in the book {Both OT & NT Saints}�will be delivered.� Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt�It will be for a time. times and half a time {Which is also 1260 days as per Rev 12:6,14, or 42� {30-day} months as per Rev 13:5} *ALL* these things will be *COMPLETED.�:applause:�
**{#2}**�Rev 13:5,7: The beast will be given a mouth to utter blasphemies and to exercise his authority for 42 {30-day} months {Not 7 years}�He will be given power to make war against the saints and to conquer them. COMPARE WITH
**{#3}**Dan 7:25: �He will speak against the Most High and oppress His saints.� The saints will be handed over to him for time {12 months}, times {24 months} and 1/2 a time {6 months}. {Not 7 years}
� By comparing Rev 12:7b and Rev 12:14b we find that 1260 Days and Time {360 Days} Times {720 Days} and 1/2 a Time {180 Days} are the exact same period of time.� Likewise, when we compare Rev 13:5b with Daniel 7:25b we learn that 42 {30-day Bible} MONTHS and Time {12 Months}, Times {24 Months} and 1/2 a Time {6 Months} are also the exact same period of time. And therefore 42 {30-Day Bible Months} and Time, Times and 1/2 a Time are the exact same period of time since 42 X 30 days equal exactly 1260 days.� 12 Months = 360 Days = {1 Time}�� 24 Months = 720 Days = {2 Times}�� 6 Months = 180 Days = {Half a Time} and 42 Months = 1260 Days = 3 1/2 Times. Whereas, 42 times 29 1/2 -day Babylonian moon months only adds up to 1239 days!
Events in Revelation that will occur during the 1260-day Tribulation are discussed in Rev 6:1 to 18:24, Events that will occur on the Last Day are recorded in Rev 6:12-17; Rev 11:15-19; Rev 14:14-20; Rev 16:17-21; Rev 19:1-21 & Rev 20:9b-15.�The Olivet discourse by Jesus about the End-Times are recorded in Matt 24 & 25, Mark 13 and Luke 21.� Events that will occur during the 1260-day Tribulation are recorded in Matt 24:9-28; Mark 13:5-23 and Luke 21:8-24. Events which will occur on the Last Day of the Tribulation including the 2nd Coming of Jesus are recorded in Matt 24:29-31; Matt 25:31-46; Mark 13:24-27, Luke 21:25-28 and 2 Peter 3:10-13. The glorious appearing of Jesus and the resurrection of His saints on the Last day of the Tribulation are mentioned in God's Word about 50 other times such as Titus 2:13: �WE wait for the blessed hope�the glorious APPEARING of our Great God and Savior, Jesus Christ,�:applause:
For example: If the coming of 666 and the 1260-day Great Tribulation starts on June 14th, 2011 then the 2nd coming of Jesus would occur exactly 1260 days later on November 25th, 2014. When the 1260-day Great Tribulation begins God's saints will then know the exact day of the 2nd coming on the Last Day as per: Rev 3:3: Jesus says, �But {*IF*} you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you.� I Thess 5:4: Paul said �But YOU BROTHERS {*CHURCH SAINTS*}, are not in darkness so that {*THIS DAY*} should surprise you like a thief.�
���� Now there are some who suggest that the Anti-Christ will exercise his authority for 7 years {Not 42 Months} and that the Great Tribulation will last 7 years {Not 1260 Days or 3 � Times}.� They have only **ONE** Bible verse {Daniel 9:27�which they grossly misinterpret} to support this idea which absolutely contradicts God�s Divine Time Periods as found in Rev 13:5b, Dan 7:25b & Dan 12:7b.
������Before quoting Daniel 9:24-27 several things should be noted:
NOTE: About 280 years before the Dan 9:24-27 Prophecy God made this amazing prophecy in Isaiah 44:28: The Lord� says of *CYRUS*, �He is my shepherd and will accomplish all that I please; he will say of JERUSALEM LET IT BE REBUILT!� This verse absolutely contradicts the Artaxerxes theory!�
��NOTE: According to Leviticus 25:8 a Sabbath �week� or 7 is *7 YEARS and 7 times 7 YEARS or �weeks� is a Jubilee or 49 years.Hebrews 9:15,26b-28:
NOTE: Hebrews 9:15,26b-28: Christ is the mediator of a NEW COVENANT so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance--now that He has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant...But now He has APPEARED once for all at the end of the ages to do away with sin by the SACRIFICE of Himself... so Christ was SACRIFICED ONCE to take away the sins of many people, and He will *APPEAR* a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him when Jesus will bring in Everlasting Righteousness on the Last Day of the Last 7.
Dan 9:24-27: �70 7�s {490 years} are decreed for your people to Anoint the Most Holy, TO ATONE FOR WICKEDNESS and to bring in everlasting righteousness... "Know and understand this: From the issuing of the decree {By Cyrus-Isa 44:28 above} to rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One comes {Oct 23, AD 29?} there will be 7 plus 62 7's {Which is 69 7's or 483 years}. "After the 7 plus 62 7's {actually 1260 days after on April 3-5 AD 33} the Anointed One will be cut off but not for Himself..... He {The Anointed One} will confirm a COVENANT with many for one 'seven'.� In the middle of the 'seven' {After 1260 days} He {The Anointed One; not 666} will put an END to SACRIFICES{For sin}{And then after a long pause} the abomination of Desolation {666} will come {for the 1260 day Great Tribulation} until the decreed end is poured out on him.� on the Last day of the last 7 {See Rev 19:20}
And so the first half of the last 7 was already completed when Jesus put and END to all sacrifices for sin 1260 days after His Anointing which occurred after 69 7's.
When the Anointed One came 69 7's or 483 years were 100% completed [See Dan 9:25 above} leaving just one 7 in the future; which will be totally used by those who wrongly believe in a future 7-year Tribulation; which means that the Atonement for sin by Jesus about 3 1/2 years after His Anointing can not be included in the 70 7's Prophecy. However, God's Word clearly states that 70 7's are decreed ...TO ATONE FOR WICKEDNESS which occurred about 3 1/2 years after the end of the 69 7's and therefore the first half of the last 7 has already been completed since there are only 3 1/2 times left in the 70 7's.
And so the Great Tribulation and the rule of 666 will last exactly 1260 days or 42 months or 3 1/2 times which agrees which God's Divine time periods found in Dan 12:1,2,7b; Dan 7:25 & Rev 13:5.
Now many saints believe the reign of 666 and the Great Tribulation are extremely close. I Peter 1:13: �Therefore, prepare your minds for ACTION, and set your hope *FULLY* on the grace to be given you when Jesus Christ is *REVEALED*!��:peace:
Mark 13:20: Jesus says, �If the Lord had not cut short those {Tribulation} days, no one would survive. But for the sake of the elect, whom He has chosen, He has shortened them.�The first 69 7's were 365-day years {7 years = 2557 days} but the Last 7 has been shortened to 360-day years and two 1260-day periods or 2520 days. And so God has shortened the last 7 of the 70 7's from 2557 days to two 1260-day periods or 2520 days. And God has shortened the Great Tribulation from 3 1/2 years or 1278 days to 3 1/2 times or 1260 days.
���� NOTE: The prophecies and time periods found in Daniel 8:1-27 {1150 days or 2300 morning and evening sacrifices} and Daniel 10:11 to 11:45 and Daniel 12:11,12 {1290 & 1335 Days} were all completely fulfilled during the evil reign of Antiochus Epiphanes IV from 172 BC to 164 BC {See Macabees 1:10,44-64; 4:52,53} and have absolutely nothing to do with the time periods and prophecies of the 1260-Day Great Tribulation or reign of 666; and are not mentioned or even implied in Revelation or anywhere in the New Testament. Daniel 12:1-10 was an End-Time Prophecy parenthesis { } which did not include Daniel 11:45 nor Daniel 12:11,12. Almost all of the prophecies in the OT are a parenthesis { } in a text which had nothing to do with the prophecy. The only End-Time verses in Daniel are Daniel 2:31-45; Daniel 7:7-28; Daniel 9:27b and Daniel 12:1-10.
Is Adding & Taking Words Away from God's Word a Unpardonable Sin?
Posted : 13 Jun, 2011 11:31 AM
Yes George there is one in particular, and you will always find this common denominator they don't know Jesus, it is plain mocking; cursing, and spitting in the lord's face and you will notice this what is true they commonly say is not true.
