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Posted : 11 Jun, 2011 11:39 AM

I would like to share with you all this video, explaining when the Rapture of the Church will take place:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylsvE1kaEI8

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Posted : 11 Jun, 2011 01:22 PM

Basically after the tribulation, ....already believed that.

Apparently he has a book for sale and a website....imagine that!

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Posted : 11 Jun, 2011 02:02 PM

If you study the word, you will find there are three raptures taught, that is why you get pre, mid and post imagine that, there is only one that applies to the church today, imagine that. Some seemed determined to miss the rapture.

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Posted : 11 Jun, 2011 02:14 PM

WILL THE RESURRECTION OF THE CHURCH SAINTS OCCUR ON THE SAME LAST DAY AS THE RESURRECTION OF THE LOST??



John 6:40� Jesus says, �For my Father�s will is that EVERYONE who looks to the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the *LAST DAY*!�



John 6:44: Jesus says, �No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him, and I will raise him up at the *LAST DAY!�



Pre-tribbers believe that the *LAST DAY* mentioned 6 times in John 6:39,40,44,54;11:24,12:48 refers to a CONCEALED RESURRECTION 7 years *BEFORE THE LAST DAY*. However, John 12:48 shows that the lost will also be condemned on that same *LAST DAY*!



*WHEN WILL THE LOST BE JUDGED AND SENT TO HELL*?



John 12:48: Jesus says, �There is a Judge for the one who rejects Me and does not accept My words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the *LAST DAY*!!�



2 Thess 1:1,6-10: �To the *CHURCH* of the Thessalonians�God is just; He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well. This will happen *WHEN* the Lord Jesus is *REVEALED* {See I Peter 1:13} from heaven in blazing fire with His powerful angels:angel:. He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will be punished with everlasting *DESTRUCTION* and shut out from the presence of the Lord *ON THE DAY HE COMES* to be glorified in His holy people!!� {THE LAST DAY-See Rev 20:11-15}



Matt 25:31-34,41: Jesus says, �*WHEN* the Son of Man comes in His glory,{On the Last Day} and all the angels:angel::angel: with Him {See Matt 24:29-31}, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people one from another��He will put His sheep on His right and the goats on the left. *THEN the King {Jesus} will say to those on His right, �Come you who are blessed by My Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world... *THEN He will say to those on His left, �Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire!�



John 5:28,29: Jesus says, �Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming {The Last Day} when *ALL* {Both OT & NT Saints} who are in their graves will hear His voice and come out�those who have done good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned.�



Daniel 12:1b,2,7b: �There will be a time of distress {The Great Tribulation} such as not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time {The Last Day} your people--*EVERYONE* whose name is found written in the Book {Both OT & NT Saints}�will be delivered. Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt�It will be for a time. times and half a time {1260 days-Rev 12:6,14, or 42 {30-day} months-Rev 13:5-{Not 7 years} *ALL* these things will be *COMPLETED.



The pre-tribbers wrongly believe that the OT saints will receive their eternal perfect heavenly bodies 7 years AFTER the Church saints. However, in Hebrews 11:39,40 we read �These {OT super saints mentioned in Heb 11:4-38} were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised. God had planned something better for us so that ONLY TOGETHER WITH US {NT Saints} would they {OT Saints} be made perfect!�



Actually there are many similarities between Revelation 20:11-15 and the Judgment of **ALL** the lost in Matthew 25:31-46 on the Day that Jesus comes again:



Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: �**WHEN** the Son of Man {The Lamb} comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, He will sit on **HIS THRONE** in Heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him and He will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on His right and the goats on the left.�



�*THEN* the King will say to those on the right, �Come you who are blessed by My Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world.� {The New Jerusalem with its New Heaven and New Earth�See Rev 21:1-5 & 2 Peter 3:10-13}



�**THEN* He will say to those on His left, �Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.� ....�*THEN* they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.�



Compare with Revelation 20:11-15: "Then I saw a great white **THRONE** and Him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from His presence {See 2 Peter 3:10 and I Cor 15:20-24}, and there was no longer any sea. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the **THRONE**, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life {See Daniel 12:1b,2}. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them and each person was judged according to what he had done {See Rev 22:12} Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life {See Daniel 12:1b,2}, he was thrown into the lake of fire."



{The book of life is actually the Lamb's book of life as per Rev 13:8 & Rev 21:27}



We can see that in Rev 22:12 and 2 Corinthians 10:5 that all the saints will be rewarded by Jesus on the same day as His second coming **ACCORDING TO WHAT HE HAS DONE**:



Revelation 22:12: Jesus says, "Behold, I am coming soon. My rewards is with Me, and I will give to everyone **ACCORDING TO WHAT HE HAS DONE**."



2 Corinthians 5:10: "For we must all appear before the Judgment Seat of Christ, that each one will receive what is due him for the things done in the body, whether good or bad."



God's Word confirms many times that **ONLY JESUS WILL JUDGE** all the lost; the living and the dead; and will reward the saints on the Day He comes **ACCORDING TO WHAT HE HAS DONE**. {See John 5:27-30; Jude 14,15, 2 Tim 4:1; Romans 2:16; Acts 10:42 & Acts 17:31 & Rev 22:12:



Acts 10:40,42: �God {The Father} raised Him {Jesus} from the dead... He commanded us to preach to the people and to testify that He is the One whom God {The Father} has appointed as Judge of the living and the dead.�



Acts 17:31: For He {The Father} **HAS SET A DAY** when He will judge the world with justice by the Man He has appointed. He has given proof of this to all men by raising Him from the dead.



2 Corinthians 5:10: For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done in the body, whether good or bad.�



Rev 22:12: Jesus says, �Behold, I am coming soon. My reward is with Me, and I will give to everyone **ACCORDING TO WHAT HE HAS DONE**.�



The pre-tribbers claim that this will occur 3 � or 7 years **BEFORE** the Last Day of the Great Tribulation right after a secret silent rapture. However in Matthew 16:27 Jesus prophesied, �The Son of Man is going to come in His Father's **GLORY WITH HIS ANGELS**, and **THEN** He will reward each person **ACCORDING TO WHAT HE HAS DONE**.� Four other times in God's Word it mentions the Second Coming of Jesus on the **LAST DAY** of the Great Tribulation in **GLORY WITH HIS ANGELS**. Matthew 24:30,31; Mark 13:26,27; Matthew 25:31 & 2 Thess 1:7



2 Thess 1:1,6-10: �To the *CHURCH* of the Thessalonians�God is just; He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well. This will happen *WHEN* the Lord Jesus is *REVEALED* {See I Peter 1:13} from heaven in blazing fire **WITH HIS POWERFUL ANGELS**. He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will be punished with everlasting *DESTRUCTION* and shut out from the presence of the Lord *ON THE DAY HE COMES* to be glorified in His holy people!!�



Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: �**WHEN** the Son of Man {The Lamb} comes in His GLORY, and **ALL HIS ANGELS WITH HIM**, He will sit on **HIS THRONE** in Heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him and He will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on His right and the goats on the left.�



�*THEN* the King will say to those on the right, �Come you who are blessed by My Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world.� {The New Jerusalem with its New Heaven and New Earth�See Rev 21:1-5 & 2 Peter 3:10-13}



�**THEN* He will say to those on His left, �Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.� ....�*THEN* they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.�



Revelation 20:11-15: Then I saw a great white **THRONE**{Matt 25:31} and Him {Jesus-Matt 25:31 & Acts 17:31} who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled away from His presence {See 2 Pet 3:10 & Rev 21:1} And I saw the dead standing before the **THRONE**{Matt 25:31}, and the books were opened. Another Book was opened, which is the {Lamb's} Book of Life. The dead were judged **ACCORDING TO WHAT THEY HAD DONE**{Matt 25:35-40} as recorded in the Books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged **ACCORDING TO WHAT HE HAS DONE**{Matt 25:41-45}. Then death and Hades were thrown into the Lake of Fire. If anyone's name was not found in the {Lamb's} Book of Life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.�{See Matt 25:41!}



So God's Word definitely shows that only Jesus will reward His saints and judge the lost on the Last Day when He comes **IN GLORY WITH ALL HIS ANGELS:angel:**{Matthew 16:27; 24:29,30; 25:31} or **WHEN HE IS REVEALED FROM HEAVEN WITH HIS POWERFUL ANGELS:angel:** as per 2 Thessalonians 1:1,6-10!!

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Posted : 11 Jun, 2011 10:18 PM

Thank you Prophet.



Phil, I thought that there iwll be the pre-trib rapture and then the end-trib rapture. But this video clearly says what is written in the Revelation (upont he last trumpet!!!!!). I have re-read the Scriptrue in Revelation and I see that it will be the last trumpet right before the Second coming of Jesus.

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