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What can we expect in the 1st Week of the Great Tribulation??
Posted : 5 Jun, 2011 03:23 PM

WHAT CAN SAINTS EXPECT IN THE FIRST WEEK OF THE 1260-DAY GREAT TRIBULATION??



According to Revelation 13:5,7,8: The Beast :devil:{666} will have authority over **EVERY** tribe people nation and language in the world for 42 {30-day} months {1260 days} and everyone whose name is not written in the Lamb's Book of Life will worship 666. 666 is called �THE BEAST� :devil:36 {6x6} times in the book of Revelation.



Question: How will the Beast:devil: {666} and His False Prophet:devil: gain control of every nation of the world in the first week of the 1260-day Tribulation?? According to Daniel 7:24b a Roman King will subdue 3 kings.



Rev 6:8; �There before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death:devil:, {666} and Hades:devil: {The False prophet who will cause people to go to hell or hades with the mark of 666} was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.



NOTE: China, India and Russia are 3 kingdoms that make up a fourth of the earth!



Rev 13:4: Men worshiped the dragon {Satan} because he had given authority to the Beast {666} and they also worshiped the beast and asked, �Who is like the Beast? Who can make war against him?�



Immediately after miraculously conquering 3 kingdoms or one fourth of the earth 666 will appoint 10 kings who had never before ruled over the 10 most powerful kingdoms of the earth.



Rev 17:12-14: The 10 horns you saw {On 666} are 10 kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but will give their authority as kings along with the Beast {666}. They have one purpose and will give their authority to the Beast {666}. They will make war against the Lamb but the Lamb will overcome them {On the Last Day} because He is King of kings and Lord of lords.� {See Rev 19:20,21}



The following 10 powerful nations have OVER 50% OF THE WORLD'S POPULATION and ABOUT 70% OF THE WORLD'S MILITARY POWER and certainly have the military, political and �religious� power to control and rule all the nations of the world: #1. United States #2.� Russia #3. China {1.3 Billion} #4. Great Britain #5. France #6. India {1.1 Billion} #7. Germany #8. Japan #9. Brazil #10. Egypt. Brazil borders every nation in South America except for Chile. Egypt is the university, intellectual and theological center of Islam. And then 666 will have �authority over every tribe, people, language and nation� as per Rev 13:7b, from his headquarters in the evil city on 7 hills or Rome.



The idea that 666 will choose a European Union of 10 nations with about 5 % of the world's population and about 10 % of the world's military power to control the world just because these nations are close to Rome is just an idea which is not supported by God's Word.



Revelation 13:14-17: �He {The False Prophet-Obama??} will deceive the inhabitants of the earth. He will order them to set up an image in honor of the Beast:devil: {666} who was wounded by the sword {On June 9th AD 68} and yet lived {Nero Caesar?}. He will have power to give breath to the image of the first Beast {666}, so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.�



�He also forced everyone... to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast {NERO CAESAR?} or the number of his name 666!�



Since these 2 world-wide laws: To worship the statue of 666 {Possibly on TV} or be killed; and not being able to buy or sell anything; there will be a huge falling away among most of the people who claim to be Christians but are not the called, the chosen and the faithful. Moses and Elijah will begin their 1260-day testimony {Rev 11:3} 3 1/2 days before the coming of 666 & the 1260-day Great Tribulation and 1263 1/2 days before the Last Day. {***THE FIRST END-TIME EVENT***} Moses and Elijah will warn us of the coming of 666 & his False Prophet. �



In Matthew 24:3,9-13:� The disciples asked Jesus, �What will be the sign of your Coming and the end of the age?? Jesus answered�.. {During the 1260-day Great Tribulation} �Then *YOU* will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and *YOU will be hated by all nations **BECAUSE OF ME**.� At that time many will turn away from the Faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of *MOST will grow cold, but he {The Called, Chosen & Faithful} who stands firm to the **END** will be saved.� Rev 2:10: Jesus says, �Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the Crown of Life!�



Rev 12:11: �They {THE TRIBULATION MARTYRS} overcame him {Satan} by the *BLOOD OF THE LAMB* and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death.�



Rev 12:11 and Rev 7:14b above contradict the belief that the tribulation saints will be saved by **WORKS ALONE** and will not be saved by the **BLOOD OF THE LAMB**. like the present church saints; and will not be in the **LAMB�S BOOK OF LIFE**.� However, in Revelation 13:8 we read: �All inhabitants of the earth will worship the Beast :devil:{666}�.*ALL* whose names have not been written in the **LAMB�S BOOK OF LIFE**!� Which absolutely confirms that the Tribulation saints who do not worship the Beast will be in the **LAMB'S BOOK OF LIFE**!!



God will miraculously take care of His Faithful and Courageous Tribulation Saints {Just as he took care of the Israelites for 40 years in the Wilderness} even though they won�t be able to buy or sell anything as per Rev 13:17a. {See Matthew 6:25-34 where storing up items are forbidden}� God's NT saints will go through the Great Tribulation without suffering the wrath of God, as did the OT saints in Egypt when God sent many horrific plagues on Egyptians because of Pharoah.



Jesus says, �You will be betrayed by your parents, brothers, children, relatives and friends and they will put some of you to death {See Rev 2:10}....They will lay hands on you and persecute you. They will deliver you to churches and prisons, and you will be brought before kings and governors, and all on account **OF MY NAME**. This will result in your being witnesses to them.� {See Mark13:9-12 & Luke 21:12,13,16}



��� Mark 13:11: �When you are brought to trial {DURING THE GREAT TRIBULATION} do not worry about what to say, for it is not you speaking, but the *HOLY SPIRIT*.� This of course contradicts the ridiculous idea that the Holy Spirit will be removed from the saints during the Great Tribulation. Mark 13 is a Tribulation chapter. The only weapon we may use is the sword of the Spirit {Eph 6:17} which is the Word of God.



I Peter 1:13: �Therefore, prepare your minds for ACTION, and set your hope *FULLY* on the grace to be given YOU when Jesus Christ is *REVEALED*. I Cor 1:7: �YOU do not lack any spiritual gift as YOU eagerly wait for our Lord Jesus Christ to be *REVEALED*.� Titus 2:13: �*WE* wait for the *BLESSED HOPE*�the glorious *APPEARING* of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. :applause:

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What can we expect in the 1st Week of the Great Tribulation??
Posted : 5 Jun, 2011 03:54 PM

When is this week?

I think I would like to go vacation that week!

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What can we expect in the 1st Week of the Great Tribulation??
Posted : 5 Jun, 2011 04:12 PM

Ask Harold Camping. :laugh:

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What can we expect in the 1st Week of the Great Tribulation??
Posted : 5 Jun, 2011 04:16 PM

:laugh:

Harold is about as accurate as the weather man!

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What can we expect in the 1st Week of the Great Tribulation??
Posted : 5 Jun, 2011 04:45 PM

AND NOW CAMPING HAS MADE ANOTHER PREDICTION THAT THE END OF THE WORLD WILL OCCUR ON OCTOBER 21ST, 2011:



"In 1992, Harold Camping published a book titled '1994?' in which he claimed have figured out that Sept. 6, 1994, would be the time of the Lord's return. Once that date failed, he reset his countdown calendar six more times:



* Sept. 15, 1994, the Day of Atonement



* Sept. 25, 1994, the Feast of Tabernacles



* Oct. 4, 1994, the "actual" birthday of Jesus that Camping calculated



* Dec. 25, 1994, the traditional celebration of Christmas



* Feb. 25, 1995, the Jewish Feast of Purim



* May 3, 1996, the result of (Mark 13:35) extended the Sept. 6, 1994, date"



May 21st 2011 and October 21st 2011 Makes **9 TIMES**



It is interesting to note that all of the bogus predictions of the rapture in the past generation have been by PRE-TRIB nuts such as Harold Camping {9 Times}, Pat Robertson {1982}, Hal Lindsey {1988}, and Edgar Whisenant {1988, 1989, 1993, 1994 & 1997} who have made millions in ridiculous books as have the Satanic Left Behind series which made 63 million and has given numerous black eyes to the evangelical movement.



The Left Behind series continually ADDED and TOOK WORDS AWAY from God's Word in Revelation which is an unpardonable sin according to Revelation 22:18,19. For example, Revelation 13:17 states that the Tribulation saints will not be able to buy anything and in the Left Behind series the Tribulation saints will be apparently buying food and paying rent and almost living normal lives for long periods of time.



Matthew 24:3,9-13: The disciples asked Jesus, �What will be the sign of your Coming and the end of the age?? Jesus answered�.. {During the Great Tribulation} �Then *YOU* will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and *YOU will be hated by all nations because of Me. At that time many will turn away from the Faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of *MOST* will grow cold,{THE GREAT APOSTASY} but he {The Called, Chosen & Faithful-Rev 17:14b} who stands firm to the End will be saved.�





2 Thess 1:1,6-10: �To the *CHURCH* of the Thessalonians�God is just; He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well. This will happen *WHEN* the Lord Jesus is *REVEALED* {See I Peter 1:13} from heaven in blazing fire�. He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will be punished with everlasting *DESTRUCTION* and shut out from the presence of the Lord *ON THE DAY HE COMES* to be glorified in His holy people!!�:angel:

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Posted : 5 Jun, 2011 04:47 PM

Well I expect it to be wondeful in heaven.

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What can we expect in the 1st Week of the Great Tribulation??
Posted : 5 Jun, 2011 10:29 PM

I don't know about all that stuff.



I know Judea was already destroyed in 70ad and was under siege for a great deal of time before that, which would have been a great famine.

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What can we expect in the 1st Week of the Great Tribulation??
Posted : 5 Jun, 2011 10:56 PM

Glad to see you back, fisher! :)

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What can we expect in the 1st Week of the Great Tribulation??
Posted : 5 Jun, 2011 11:09 PM

glad to be back

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What can we expect in the 1st Week of the Great Tribulation??
Posted : 6 Jun, 2011 02:42 AM

I used to be an avid pre-tribber! I'm really not sure anymore. I Am sure He's Coming Soon and we're going home! :applause:

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Posted : 6 Jun, 2011 03:57 AM

Sorry, but this is all standard dispensationalist interpretation. Hal Lindsey could not do any better.



Also, in Daniel 9: 27, in the dispensationalist view, says "he" who is the dispensationalist one man anti-Christ will cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease and for the overspreading of abominations..."

And "he" the anti-Christ will confirm the covenant for one week.



But "he" has to refer back to what it says in Daniel 9: 26, making "he" the Messiah. You don't want to say that Christ is the anti-Christ.



There is no First Week of the Great Tribulation.



Luke 21: 11 says in the tribulation there will be great earthquakes in diverse places, etc. Bible prophecy does not predict a great earthquake in Japan, nor does it predict the huge number of tornadoes all over the nation, nor the flooding, nor the economic problems, etc, etc. We might now be in the beginning of the tribulation, or it could be right around the corner. I forget to mention that the killing of Christians in the Middle East and n Africa has increased quite a bit in the last few months, perhaps pointing to Revelation 6: 9-10, and perhaps the beginning of the tribulation. It may be that when the killing of Christians spreads to this country, we can know for sure we are in the tribulation - and the dispensationist "church" will still be here.



But the dispensationalist follower will say, "We cannot be in the tribulation because "I" have not been raptured.

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