If you will not apologize for your words said to Ella, I will not communicate with you all guys on this Forum. Because it will prove me that you are not a Christian. And we should not communicate with such people who know what is right and they deliberately do not do it.
If you sin not loving her, then if I will not stop you then I will be a criminal too. God will judge me too. Look in my ex-church one of the �christian� leaders smoked and after smoking in our house church she said: ok guys let�s go to pray not. Another one lady was sleeping with a lover who picked up her from this church. No one said that they both are sinning�no one of pastors!!! I told them their sins because God said to do it in His Holy Scripture and if I would stay in this smoking room approving what she is doing then I would be like she is a sinner. It is not a church in this case but a business club. It is called sin of omission or accessory of their crimes against God and people if we will not stop them. Unfortunately such people are the majority of people and even they are such in the churches. But God will judge such churches. We all know it. If I will stay in your community observing your sins, I would be a criminal too. That�s why I give you choice: repent and apologize for your insulting words personally to her and give us confirmation that you did it. Or I cannt be accessory of your deeds.
Let me explain why:
1. We all can rebuke each other with the truth about what we have said. We should not get mad and try to turn the tables.
We come up against what we speak wrong, and not us personally... We do just s Jesus and Paul did and this is proper, but we should not dislike it. Jesus warns us that there will be those who will attack and revile us and come up against what we speak when it convicts their hearts of their wrong... We just analyze and meditate on what God says and help to build everybody up because God said us to do it.
The Bible teaches us that an open rebuke is better that secret love, that�s why you should come to your senses... if not I will leave this in God's hands, as long as I am doing my part.
We also see in Proverbs chapter 27, that there are times when it is proper NOT to respond back to a person who is speaking as a fool, as not to be brought down on their level of ignorance. Then there are times when it is VERY proper to respond to a fool as to make them ashamed and hopefully they will repent.
2. If you condemn Ella, then I am asking you to provide proof of her attacking you first. And discuss these issue with her. Invite her for conversation and let us see it. Or is what she said was in response to what you spoke out to her...
3. Please know the kind of self-righteous people. But if the TRUTH is one. You should get Jesus� righteousness though FAITH in God Jesus and love people. If they sin, and you do not correct them in love then you are co-sinner.
4. You should not refuse to accept the truth about God's word. God's word is not something that makes us feel comfortable, it is to move us our of our comfort zones to the right path�to God Himself. God confronts us daily to make us HOLY and teach you to LOVE people!!!!!!
5. God Jesus and Paul spoke back to those who spoke out against God's word was not too nice, but was harsh... but a rebuke and reproof are never too nice or easy to hear.
That's a false balance, and shows where you are coming from in spiritual ignorance, and in need of repentance. You feel they can say what they please.
Well, they devil is a BIG LIAR! But we do not lie and say everything to you straightforward! You do not like it. But we do it to make you perfect because God�s judgement will reveal us who are the true Christians and who are �Muslims� and fake Christians. It is was I called �so-called christian�. If you do not want to be judged by God and bnelong to the millions of fake Christians then REPENT of your sin, confess this sin to God and ask Ella for forgiveness. Turn your heart from hatred to her to love to her and show us your changed behavior.
Do not act as people who are spiritually immature and childish.
But love each other and build up each other because our FATHER is LOVE and His Justice will devour you like FIRE (because God is a devouring Fire) if you will NOT conform to His TRUTH. He commands you and not gives you advice: LOVE God and LOVE people or you will perish. There is no other option for you Mike.
Now show us your love to Ella and by seeing that we will see your love to God!!!
Did I just read you right?! Did you just give Chevy an ultimatum to apologize to Ella or else you're leaving this forum?! And then tell him he's has to PROVE it?! Haha! Whew! Sister, Sister, Sister...that's hilarious! Especially since he posted an apology to anyone he offended. Haha!
Do me (and yourself) a favor..Go to one of Ella's posts and just under her picture, you'll see the word 'History'. Click on it and read what Ella has written to others; see how hateful she is; not just to chevy, but everyone except you and one other. Then you can see for yourself.
Perfect Bahri, ~~~~ Good-Bye! ~~~ My name isn't Mike, and I would appreciate it if you would stop addressing me as such. Better yet, stop addressing me at all!
OOPS! Sorry, Bahri, I shouldn't have responded to a person who was speaking as a fool. Don't want to be brought down to your level. I'm going to work now. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Have a great day, guys!
Btw, is this the same Bahira who tried to humiliate me publicly with false accusations, (Okay, implications) of sleeping with a lover because you didn't like my post?
Why don't you get out your Bible Dictionary and look up the meaning of the word "satan"....you will quickly see the definition and your actions have much in common.
*No wonder Paul said you should be silent, there are a few like you and ET that ruin it for all women.
False accuser Bahri, How dare you accuse Spirit filled children of God of being"fake christians"! Satan is the accuser of the brethren. You're acting just like him.
You do not love people if you do not obey teaching of Jesus!
So, NOTE: God needs your OBEDIENCE and LOVE.
"This is how we know that we love the children of God: by loving God and carrying out His commands. This is love for God: to obey His commands. And His commands are not burdensome�" (1 Jn. 5:3).
God Jesus said:
�As for the person who hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge him. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save it. There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day" (Jn. 12:47, 48).
Why should we judge bad behavior of Christians?
Let me explain you that:
The Bible also exhorts us to beware of evildoers and false prophets and to avoid those who practice all kinds of evil. How are we to discern who these people are if we do not make some kind of judgment about them? There is a righteous kind of judgment we are supposed to exercise�with careful discernment (John 7:24). If a believer sees another believer sinning, it is his duty to confront the person with his sin (Matthew 18:15-17). This is not judging, but rather pointing out the truth in hope�and with the ultimate goal�of bringing repentance in the other person (James 5:20) and restoration to the fellowship with God and people. That�s why I pointed out sins of this man and I gave his solution how he can get right with God and Ella (by asking for forgiveness).
We are to proclaim what God's Word says about sin. 2 Timothy 4:2 instructs us, "Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage � with great patience and careful instruction." We are to "judge" sin, but always with the goal of presenting the solution for sin and its consequences�the Lord Jesus Christ (John 14:6).
I did it. If your reaction is against God�s words said in these verses above, then NOTE that you disobey God and even sin! Punishment for sin is death- says God. That�s why you all need to repent and ask God to forgive your sins!
Note also: we are to follow God's commands such as:
"... you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat. What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. "Expel the wicked man from among you" (1 Cor. 5:11-13);
We must NOT ASSDOCIATE with them!!!!
"Hate what is evil; cling to what is good" (Rom. 12:9) and
"...watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them" (Rom. 16:17),
Then the question is: Should we judge? God says that YES.
We are commanded to judge fellow believers concerning their personal life. The Corinthians were told to, "...expel the wicked man from among you...so that the sinful nature may be destroyed and his spirit saved on the day of the Lord" 1 Cor. 5:13, 5.
