I agree wholemeal with you two, for what Mr meanie does not understand about that verse and the time period, and reason that it was written for, nor the people and customs of that time makes his statement as has been stated before ludicrous! what did Jesus say about the matter? Did he tell the women at the well, what Mr meanie stated? I believe it was he who shed Blood for our salvation, not Paul, or whoever wrote that, for scholars are not sure if Paul wrote that book. Shake it off!
The Word of GOD says:
2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Being from a different culture,and a different era,none of this will ever change the Word of GOD,nor its meaning.
If Paul did not write this Scripture,then we might as well throw out the rest of the Scripture he had written.
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If culture or the times which people find themselves in change the Word of GOD.
Then i will be in such trouble as no man has ever known.
I agree, Mr. Meanie. The Word doesn't change ! Doesn't matter what culture or time:: Truth is Truth, yesterday, today, and forever. When we start trying to interpret God's Word to fit today, we are indeed in trouble. If Jesus said it, He meant it!!
Mr Meanie, with all due respect sir, you cannot bring your own interpretation from a legalistic perspective into a spiritual discussion and not expect to be challenged. Let me ask you this Sir! Before the collection of books became the Bible, what did the early Christians use? The Bible gives us instruction, but it does not limit The God of Creation. What did Jesus say about marriage and divorce! Why are there eight (8) different canons? The Jewish Bible ends with Israels return to Jerusalem, our OT ends with Malachi, Why?
I mean no disrespect, but this is a discussion and I disagree with your premise as to the subject matter not you as a person. i think the Holy Spirit knows more about our Father than Paul did. Jesus stipulated about forgiveness and the many times we are to forgive, plus he stated that the only unpardonable sin was to blaspheme the HOLY Spirit, so yes you have changed scripture!
Iif we as earth travelers are supposed to exhibit love and Forgiveness, how much more will our Father in Heaven exceed that. Man tries to play God, and fail at it many times, so until you are nailed to a cross, you have no right to cast false aspersions on any person!
Scripture tells us to examine ourselves. Jesus only picked up the written word once and then He started walking as the Word! Should we that say we believe the Bible do the same?
Maam I so agree with you, so look up what Jesus said about blaspheming the Holy Spirit, as being the only unpardonable sin, look up what Jesus said to the Lady at the well, look up what He said about forgiveness. Look up what Peter said about Paul and the hard to understand his words. What I quote is from scripture and scripture only. If Jesus Said it we should believe it, and you will see that Mr. Meanie has changed scripture to fit his own interpretation, for it is not what Jesus said. God Bless you!
Mr Jeanie wrote : "Being from a different culture,and a different era,none of this will ever change the Word of GOD,nor its meaning."
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Sorry Bro, I have to disagree with you on this; culture is context and it is context that determines a meaning, without context; according to Paul one could preach castration!
Mr Jeanie wrote : "Being from a different culture,and a different era,none of this will ever change the Word of GOD,nor its meaning."
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Sorry Bro, I have to disagree with you on this; culture is context and it is context that determines a meaning, without context; according to Paul one could preach castration!
POIC:
Culture dictates context,where are you getting this from.
This is the problem we have in America;Ooooopps THE HOMELAnD/FATHERLAND Herr sparrow.
The American 'church' is trying to use the american culture to
interpret the Scripture by.
This will never work.
Either the Word of GOD influences a culture;Or the culture influences the Word of GOD.
If the latter happens then the Word will need to change as the cultures change.
The former happens then people are changed some very dramatically.
Act 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Act 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
Php 3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
Php 3:4 Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:
Php 3:5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
Php 3:6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.
Php 3:7 But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.
Php 3:8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
Php 3:9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
Php 3:10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
Surely one who is studing Hebrew and Greek knows that words convey thoughts, ideas and principles. Therefore the exact words my have a little, no, wrong or confusing meaning when it is taken out of the culture in which it was given and applied in a different culture. This makes it paramount that the meaning, ie : thoughts, ideas and principles must be understood in the original culture before they can be applied in a radically different culture.
