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Posted : 2 Jun, 2011 01:24 AM

People throw that term around a lot on this site. Can someone explain to me what a "so-called" Christian is? Are those using it saying a person isn't a Christian?

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Posted : 2 Jun, 2011 06:45 AM

A Lakota Indian would say they are not walking "the red road"

A white man would say they do not walk their talk

A religious person would say they don't practice what they preach

The Scriptures do say they are imposters, wolves and "Many"

Although we as mere people cannot judge the heart of another we can hardly help to notice if a tree has fruit or only leaves

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Posted : 2 Jun, 2011 08:44 AM

you got it right chevy. After you get called that you are being delievered a message.

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Posted : 2 Jun, 2011 08:59 AM

The bottom line is this Christianity has a book of love, faith and hope and the greatest of these is love, I know I have been guilty of not walking in love in the past, but here it is I have since I have been saved been in fellowship with believers and one would think this is obvious if they are born again, on this site we see those that love to throw around their pet word of interpretation, that has no biblical foundation or guidelines even though they will declare it to be so.



Thus the one that says they are right and their wisdom supersedes the word of God, which in most case here it is the God of this world helping Christians exalt themselves, you will never know the adversary tactics till you come to the word of God and agree with it to be the truth, no exceptions and the next step is to believe the word of God that is written and bring forth corresponding actions to the word.



Just to give you an example this post is obviously directed at some in particular and even though some believe it to be acceptable, the author of this word know it to be a violation of the love walk, you can not change any one else but we are always responsible to ourselves.



For one this is a public forum, or something that is very much a part of this world, and the business of the church is not to be out in the world no more than anyone here believes all their family problems belong in the street. we know that to be the wisdom of this world.



And no it is not scriptural as was posted recently on this board is it right to expose false teachers, etc, etc.

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Posted : 2 Jun, 2011 09:21 AM

Hey Phil:



Phil says:

The bottom line is this Christianity has a book of love, faith and hope and the greatest of these is love, I know I have been guilty of not walking in love in the past, but here it is I have since I have been saved been in fellowship with believers and one would think this is obvious if they are born again, on this site we see those that love to throw around their pet word of interpretation, that has no biblical foundation or guidelines even though they will declare it to be so.







Thus the one that says they are right and their wisdom supersedes the word of God, which in most case here it is the God of this world helping Christians exalt themselves, you will never know the adversary tactics till you come to the word of God and agree with it to be the truth, no exceptions and the next step is to believe the word of God that is written and bring forth corresponding actions to the word.







Just to give you an example this post is obviously directed at some in particular and even though some believe it to be acceptable, the author of this word know it to be a violation of the love walk, you can not change any one else but we are always responsible to ourselves.







For one this is a public forum, or something that is very much a part of this world, and the business of the church is not to be out in the world no more than anyone here believes all their family problems belong in the street. we know that to be the wisdom of this world.







And no it is not scriptural as was posted recently on this board is it right to expose false teachers, etc, etc.







The Word of GOD says.



Php 3:13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,

Php 3:14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.





Quit beating a dead horse.



Shalom

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Posted : 2 Jun, 2011 09:35 AM

George by your post you prove yourself to be one that does not believe, thus your input is not valuable to the church until you repent and turn unto the lord and step out of the darkness, the truth,( Jesus) is not a dead horse to those that love him, he is life.

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Posted : 2 Jun, 2011 10:30 AM

P.J. Your assumption that chevy's post is meant for someone inparticular is a bit judgemental, don't you think? Have you asked him? Of course not! And what if it is? All your posts to james , poic, dennis, etc. certainly didn't appear Loving to me. You really have no clue, dear. You came back quickly enough~~~ can't make up your mind? You first day back, and you already sound like you're mad at everyone. Could it be that you are a So-Called Christian? Maybe the Post is meant for you. LOL

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Posted : 2 Jun, 2011 10:59 AM

Hi,

Let me explain what is that:



Muslims are not christians. Why? They say that they LOVE Jesus!

Because they do not love people and do not obey teaching of Jesus. He said that He is God. They say - NO.

So, NOTE: God needs your OBEDIENCE and LOVE.



If you claim that you are a christian then LIVE as God says by LOVING People (particulary your sister Ella! She is working for Jesus. She is trying to do her best to help people and God. If she is wrong , correct her with LOVE. I didnt see your love toward you in your responses!!) As I said before: Go and convert her. Go and build her up! God and restore her. If you destroy what God builds up, are you with Him or AGAINST Him?!

Judge yourself now and LOVE he because her Father is God of LOVE and JUSTICE. If you caim to be christian why do you attack daughter of God!!! Did you see how muslims respect and love women on their Muslim Forums! They would never say what I have written what you said to Ella!



So, you you do not want to be so-called christian ( like misslions of such christians wh are going to the hell fire) then LOVE people and LOVE God by obeying Hima nd doing what He says:





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Posted : 2 Jun, 2011 09:44 AM





Hello everyone.







I hear many people saying.



'I love Jesus so much'.







Yet whose love are we resting in,My loving Yeshua.



Or do I rest in that Yeshua Loves me.







What is the difference?







John 21:15 So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.



John 21:16 He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep.



John 21:17 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.



John 21:18 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdedst thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not.



John 21:19 This spake he, signifying by what death he should glorify God. And when he had spoken this, he saith unto him, Follow me.











Shalom



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Posted : 2 Jun, 2011 10:40 AM





We love God if we OBEY God.







Faith Without Works Is Dead















14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, �Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,� but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.







18 But someone will say, �You have faith, and I have works.� Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe�and tremble! 20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? 23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, �Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.�And he was called the friend of God. 24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only. James 2



God Jesus said:



�If you love me, you will obey what I command. �If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. He who does not love me will not obey my teaching" (Jn. 14:15, 23, 24).





"This is how we know that we love the children of God: by loving God and carrying out His commands. This is love for God: to obey His commands. And His commands are not burdensome�" (1 Jn. 5:3).





"So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter" (2 Thess. 2:15).





"What you heard from me, keep as the pattern of sound teaching, with faith and love in Christ Jesus" (2 Tim. 1:13).





Note also:



�As for the person who hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge him. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save it. There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day" (Jn. 12:47, 48).



Faith Without Works Is Dead















14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, �Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,� but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.







18 But someone will say, �You have faith, and I have works.� Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe�and tremble! 20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? 23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, �Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.�And he was called the friend of God. 24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only. James 2

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Posted : 2 Jun, 2011 11:14 AM

Sorry guys, so many mistakes that I will re-post it:



Chevy said the following because I called him so-called Christian in the thread of Ella called The lord�s Prayer:



People throw that term around a lot on this site. Can someone explain to me what a "so-called" Christian is? Are those using it saying a person isn't a Christian?



I said to him:





Hi,



Let me explain what is that:



Muslims are not christians. Why? They say that they LOVE Jesus!



Because they do not love people and do not obey teaching of Jesus. He said that He is God. They say - NO.



So, NOTE: God needs your OBEDIENCE and LOVE.





If you claim that you are a christian then LIVE as God says by LOVING People (particularly your sister Ella! She is working for Jesus. She is trying to do her best to help people and God. If she is wrong , correct her with LOVE. I didnt see your love toward you in your responses!!) As I said before: Go and convert her. Go and build her up! God and restore her. If you destroy what God builds up, are you with Him or AGAINST Him?!



Judge yourself now and LOVE he because her Father is God of LOVE and JUSTICE. If you claim to be christian why do you attack daughter of God!!! Did you see how muslims respect and love women on their Muslim Forums! They would never say what I have written what you said to Ella!



So, you do not want to be so-called Christian (like millions of such Christians who are going to the hell fire) then LOVE people and LOVE God by obeying Him and doing what He says:





We love God if we OBEY God.



Faith Without Works Is Dead



14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, �Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,� but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.



18 But someone will say, �You have faith, and I have works.� Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe�and tremble! 20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? 23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, �Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.�And he was called the friend of God. 24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only. James 2





God Jesus said:



�If you love me, you will obey what I command. �If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. He who does not love me will not obey my teaching" (Jn. 14:15, 23, 24).



"This is how we know that we love the children of God: by loving God and carrying out His commands. This is love for God: to obey His commands. And His commands are not burdensome�" (1 Jn. 5:3).



"So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter" (2 Thess. 2:15).



"What you heard from me, keep as the pattern of sound teaching, with faith and love in Christ Jesus" (2 Tim. 1:13).



Note also:





�As for the person who hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge him. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save it. There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day" (Jn. 12:47, 48).

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Posted : 2 Jun, 2011 11:15 AM

bahri, I have not seen ella being attacked but I have seen her attack many. Why don't you give her the same speech about building others up. She has been very mean to all but maybe two or three on this forum. Maybe you slept through that. I didn't see you jumping in to defend those she verbally assaulted. And I do pray for her. She needs lots of prayer!

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Posted : 2 Jun, 2011 11:19 AM

sister, no.

I am correcting her too but in personal correspondence.

I tell her the same things to lov eyou and build you up!!!

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