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The Lord's Prayer
Posted : 31 May, 2011 07:21 PM

The Lord's Prayer... Or as it is also known as The Disciples or Believers Prayer

(We call Him by His name and give honor, adoration, and reverence and resepct to Him because He alone is worthy to be praised. God's name is holy and we are to recognize His name, His sovereignty and will.) This prayer is also known as a intercessionary prayer praying for others in that we pray OUR Father which includes others, It can also be a personal prayer which one prays personally by using my.)...Our (My) Father who is in heaven, hallowed be Your name.Your

Kingdom come, Your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.

(WE make our prayer requests known to Him for those things we need for our daily survival, and christian walk, and we repent of our sins and ask for forgiveness, and power to forgive others, so that our prayer requests will not be hindered, and ask for His protection)... Give us (me) this day our (my) daily bread. And FORGIVE us (me) our (my) sins, as we (I) FORGIVE those who sin against us (me) And lead us(me) not into temptation, but deliver us (me) from evil.

(We recognize His power and authority and praise Him for His kingdom to come)... For Yours is the kingdom, and the power and the glory Forever. Amen.

For if you FORGIVE others who have sinned against you, your heavenly Father will also FORGIVE you of your sins, BUT if you DO NOT FORGIVE others who have sinned against you, neither will your heavenly Father FORGIVE you of your sins.

Matthew chapter 6

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Posted : 31 May, 2011 09:02 PM

If God had required you to WARN like you stated in the previous thread, why did you bump it to page 2 so quickly? This prayer was in it at least a couple of times! It was something God wanted us to SEE! But of course, you made it move on cause you didn't like the teaching! LOL Like I told you in the other thread. Thanks but no thanks to what you post. I'm not taking it, I'm leaving it. I would rather be taught by Spirit Led Teachers, than Flesh Driven People. And I'd like to thank twosparrows and POIC(alias mr. meanie) for a great teaching that I, for one, feel God wanted me to understand! Thanks guys! Keep sharing Truth!

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Posted : 1 Jun, 2011 08:08 AM

Thank you sister!

Great post!



If some of people who calls themselves as christians cannt appreciate your message, then 20,000 Arabs -my firnds0 will apreciate it!



Meanwhile i say: Parise the Lord for your daughter and her service!



Bahira

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Posted : 1 Jun, 2011 12:30 PM

Okay ET,

Am I hearing you correctly? Am I reading your post correctly?

A persons salvation and forgiveness of their sins is NOT dependent on Christ's shed blood at the cross, but rather is solely dependent on the good work of forgiving others....???

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Posted : 1 Jun, 2011 06:51 PM

We are not saved by works, but saved by the blood of Jesus. Dennis

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Posted : 1 Jun, 2011 10:02 PM

Chuck, go and continue to sleep with your lovers. Are you saved in this case?

Where is your repentance?

If ther eis no repentance, there is no forgivenesss.

Repentance is caused by FAITH. If there is no FAITH there is no forgiveness.

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Posted : 1 Jun, 2011 11:34 PM

Bahira,

Sadly that is not a temptation I am currently dealing with ...lol!

The point is ET and I guess you also are going to reconcile Scripture :

Are you saved by believing in Jesus who brings repentance and forgiveness for others.

OR.....

Are you saved by forgiving others and repentance?

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Posted : 2 Jun, 2011 10:36 AM

Hi Chuck,



Let me repeat:



Correct, God Jesus gives us forgiveness of all our sins, i.e. salvation from the hell fire ONLY through our FAITH in God Jesus because He shed His blood on the cross and accepted the sin of the world to make us FREE of our sins.





But Chuck, go and continue to sleep with your lovers. Are you saved in this case?

Where is your repentance?

If thereis no repentance, there is no forgivenesss.

Repentance is caused by FAITH. If there is no FAITH there is no forgiveness.





Faith Without Works Is Dead



14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, �Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,� but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

18 But someone will say, �You have faith, and I have works.� Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe�and tremble! 20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? 23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, �Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.�And he was called the friend of God. 24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only. James 2

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Posted : 2 Jun, 2011 11:14 AM

Bahira,

I am not sleeping with lovers because I have Faith.

I don't have Faith because I am not sleeping with lovers.

Because I am not sleeping with lovers does not affirm my Faith is Saving Faith, although it hints that it is.

Because I have Saving Faith affirms I am not sleeping with lovers.

If you understand the Scripture you posted, you would know that righteousness was credited to Abraham because he believed God, not because he was going to sacrifice Isaac. He was going to sacrifice Isaac because he believed God.

You forgive others because you have Faith, not so you will be forgiven.

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Posted : 2 Jun, 2011 04:21 PM

I am going crazy after reading your post.Dennis

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Posted : 2 Jun, 2011 04:45 PM

I thought Chuck just slept with his dogs. My Beagle sleeps with me!



Speaking of dogs, when I arrived home on Monday night after my long weekend in Texas, guess who was THE FIRST to greet me? Yup! My buddy Tristan. He missed his Mommy. I think our pets are such a gift from the Lord.

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