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Posted : 26 May, 2011 08:31 AM

Liberals Tend to reduce the bible to four verses of Scripture, and misinterpret those verses to fit modern socialist goals.



They will use Jesus saying "turn the other cheek" as an excuse for pacifism, even though that phrase meant not to sue someone in court even though you had the right. The will use the verse in the Gospels where a certain group of Christians sold all they had and everyone had everything in common, as an excuse for communism, even though those Christians did this willingly without government coercion. They will use "Judge not lest ye be judged" to tell Christians to shut up, and not call anything they do evil, including abortion and Homosexuality. They use the verses that tell us to help the poor, to tell us we should support socialist welfare policies, even though in the bible, the poor are what we call destitute, and we are supposed to do it personally, not by voting for some socialist nanny state.







And here is a quote about Liberal preachers, who are trotted out by the hard left from time to time, to help in advocating for the religion of leftism. And, remember that none of this even comes close to the black liberation theology preached in Obama's church that he attended for twenty years.











"Liberal preachers have tended to use Biblical texts as ornaments, attached to already arrived-at conclusions and convictions � a 'resource' rather than a 'source.' As an atheist put it: 'You hear what the psychologist says, what the historian says, what the New York Times editorial writer says, and then the sermon concludes with, And perhaps Jesus said it best..."' �Martin Copenhaver, 'The Making of a Postliberal,' Christian Century, Oct. 14, 1998, p. 937.





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James

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Posted : 26 May, 2011 09:53 AM

thanks for the post james. This is so true to the core.

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Posted : 26 May, 2011 10:38 AM

WOW, I actually agree with everything you just said!



Personally I don't see how one can be a liberal and a christian.. It doesn't make sense to me.

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Posted : 26 May, 2011 12:41 PM

James posted:

"have tended to use Biblical texts as ornaments, attached to already arrived-at conclusions and convictions"

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I agree---this is just as true for liberals as conservatives, democrats as republicans, and Arminians as Calvinists!



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Posted : 26 May, 2011 05:25 PM

Fisher said:



Personally I don't see how one can be a liberal and a christian.. It doesn't make sense to me.





James replies:



You are right, Liberalism contradicts the Bible on every point.



I think that Liberalism has become a kind of religion.



At the very least, one could say it is a complete worldview.



How can a person who says they are a Christian be Liberal???



Well, first off would be ignorance of the Bible. They don't know the Bible supports what we now call free market capitalism. They don't know that the Bible condemns lazyness, and points to it as the main source of poverty. They don't make the distinction between the private responsibilities given to us individuals, and the ones God gave to governments in Roman 13.



I think the second reason, and this is much worse, is that God saves people from all backgrounds and SOME of those people came from very liberal backgrounds. No one has explained to them they have to repent of Liberalism. So, they literally end up mixing two religions, and are thus idolatrous.



The last reason is the worst, and that is you have Liberals who want to claim they are Christians. These individuals, show themselves because every time there is a specific command or principle in Scripture that contradicts the plain teaching of leftism, that person will choose to follow leftism and IGNORE what the Bible says!



I have seen all three of these situations and I would like there to be a more clear distinction made between the religion of Liberalism and the Christian faith.



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James

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Posted : 26 May, 2011 05:49 PM

I agree 2sparrows, people post such absurd comments it's a shame they call themselves Christians, those comments from others demeaning a name given by a political group to debase another. None of you can speak for or about any one group of Christian, and to give them a label is ridiculous, may be we should be like the Taliban and enforce Christian laws and execute any one who thinks different in America then we do or be like Hitler and throw in a furnace people of a certain creed or belief not like ours.. when at judgment time you do not have any say-so,

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Posted : 26 May, 2011 07:34 PM

James posted:



"have tended to use Biblical texts as ornaments, attached to already arrived-at conclusions and convictions"



Twosparrows said:



I agree---this is just as true for liberals as conservatives, democrats as republicans, and Arminians as Calvinists!







'No solider concerns himself with civilian affairs'



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1. you agree with all four points of Arminianism.



2. Conservatives and Calvinists, do NOT use the Bible as an afterthought to bolster things that they decided apart from Scripture.



3. I find it bizarre that you would act like Liberals are the same as Conservatives. I will chalk this up to you not understanding either one.





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Posted : 26 May, 2011 08:26 PM

Just because one is a Conservative, does not make one a Christian, James.

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Posted : 26 May, 2011 08:38 PM

It kinda does, Violakat.



Look at abortion. From a strictly pragmatic point of view, it is an evolutionary milestone. We would surely be the ultimate species if we truly managed to embrace the idea of killing our own young for scientific purposes in an overpopulated world, sacrificing babies for stem cell research.

Up until today, the only things that eat their young are animals who drive themselves to extinction. The liberal coldness to what would otherwise be clear morality is an obvious gigantic step towards the advancement of our society.



Homosexuality is a victimless crime. Without the Bible, it isn't a crime at all. The only reason to mess with homosexuals the way conservatives do is either a Christian agenda or the agenda of a closed-minded bigot. Without being a Christian, how could any just person be against homosexuality? And why would anybody care?



Liberals are all about voting democrat and squandering money on the poor, a relatively Christlike philosophy (although there is a problem with accepting responsibility for consequences of ill-thought out actions among many liberals).



If a conservative isn't a Christian, he's a backward, greedy, selfish, bigot jerk.

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Posted : 26 May, 2011 08:49 PM

I feel so, so so ...misunderstood, ....a feeling I am getting use to. Oh well if a person doesn't listen, using different words or speaking louder wont help. ...be blessed, be happy, Hoo-raah!

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Posted : 26 May, 2011 08:50 PM

and yet, Tinyfrog, there are many conservatives that support Homosexual rights and some that support abortion.



And like I said, you can be Conservative, without being a Christian. Just because one puts on the label Christian, does not mean they are. Joining a church does not make you a Christian. Only accepting Christ as Savior does. When anyone adds to or takes away from the conditions God put on Salvation, it ceases to be Faith based and becomes a work base salvation.

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