Thread: He is NOT of this world! And He calls you.....
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He is NOT of this world! And He calls you.....
Posted : 9 May, 2011 01:31 AM
Brothers,
Let�s continue to discuss what God said in the Holy Scripture about the origin of the Arabs and Palestinians. In the beginning let�s listen to my Christian sister Ella:
Thank you Bahira...so if all of this information (on the origin of the Arabs) you have posted comes from the word of God, and can be found in the Old Testament of the Holy Bible, as well as how God divided the land... what's the problem?...why is it that no one is reading with understanding and following God's directives regarding the land?
Why is there a fight over land that first of which all belongs to God and He appointed it to the people He had chosen, and secondly He has already determined Christ's landing site and no man or group of people can change it.
Does anyone believe or think that God is going to allow anyone to take hold of Jesus's landing place for when He returns?...I mean, does anyone really think that God is going to allow the enemy of the Lord to occupy Christ's landing strip for the new kingdom to come? If so, it will only be for a moment, God already knew these things would be.. Ishmael and Isaac have fought all their lives, Ishmael out of jealousy of Isaac because Isaac was of the promise child, and God has already said they will not have peace between the two until Jesus returns...the only peace the two brothers had was when they came together for Abraham's burial...
So to hate over the land and out of jealousy in the name of God, what is Christ going to do, place one foot in Jerusalem on the Jews side of the borders, and the other foot in Palestine on the Palestinians side? I don't think so..
Thank you, and all who don't know the truth about the land or the people of the land, should pick up the word of God and read...
Brothers, Arabs and Jews are brothers from the one father. Let me remind you:
The Jews are descendants of Abraham�s son Isaac. The Arabs are descendants of Abraham�s son Ishmael. With Ishmael being the son of a slave woman (Genesis 16:1-16) and Isaac being the promised son who should be inheritance of Abraham and though his descendants- Jews- all nation should be blessed. Let�s read about it. But do you remember what I said before that when Ibrahim came to the Canaan he settled between Kadesh and Shur in the land of the Philistines (this nation called the Philistines already lived in the land Canaan and they were not Arabs!):
There was a famine in the land, besides the first famine that was in the days of Abraham. And Isaac went to Abimelech king of the Philistines, in Gerar.
Then the LORD appeared to him and said:
�Do not go down to Egypt; live in the land of which I shall tell you. Dwell in this land, and I will be with you and bless you; for to you and your descendants I give all these lands, and I will perform the oath which I swore to Abraham your father. And I will make your descendants multiply as the stars of heaven; I will give to your descendants all these lands; and in your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed;
because Abraham obeyed My voice and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My laws.� Genesis 26:1-5
But brothers, God told us what will be the future of Arabs when Ishmael was a child. Let�s consider it today. Not only jealousy of Sarah was the reason why two brothers Ishmael and Isaac could not live together. It was also a character of Ishmael. May be because his mother was Egyptian. As we know people can influence people. Our parents can influence us in not a good way as well. We all come from problem families. There is none of us who is good. But we can be good people and our God the Father could be worshipped because of our lives.
Let�s consider today how should one handle conflicts.
Here what the Scripture says about their conflicts:
And Sarah saw the son of Hagar the Egyptian, whom she had borne to Abraham, scoffing. Therefore she said to Abraham,
�Cast out this bondwoman and her son;
for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, namely with Isaac.�
And the matter was very displeasing in Abraham�s sight because of his son.
So what was the reason why Ishmael and Isaac were different even having at the same blood of their father Ibrahim in their vanes? So, I suppose that may be the influence of Egyptian wife of Abraham/Ibrahim (Egyptian culture) had a negative impact onto her son Ishmael that�s why he was fighting with his brother Isaac. But usually children have tendency to do what is wrong. And parents should correct them in the Truth.
Sometimes if you cannt correct any bad situation, you should quite. If you cannt win in temptation you should run away from it.
So, Sarah talked Abraham into sending Hagar and Ishmael away and God said:
But God said to Abraham, �Do not let it be displeasing in your sight because of the lad or because of your bondwoman. Whatever Sarah has said to you, listen to her voice; for in Isaac your seed shall be called. Yet I will also make a nation of the son of the bondwoman, because he is your seed.�
So Abraham rose early in the morning, and took bread and a skin of water; and putting it on her shoulder, he gave it and the boy to Hagar, and sent her away. Then she departed and wandered in the Wilderness of Beersheba. And the water in the skin was used up, and she placed the boy under one of the shrubs. Then she went and sat down across from him at a distance of about a bowshot; for she said to herself, �Let me not see the death of the boy.� So she sat opposite him, and lifted her voice and wept.
And God heard the voice of the lad. Then the angel of God called to Hagar out of heaven, and said to her, �What ails you, Hagar? Fear not, for God has heard the voice of the lad where he is. Arise, lift up the lad and hold him with your hand, for I will make him a great nation.�
Then God opened her eyes, and she saw a well of water. And she went and filled the skin with water, and gave the lad a drink. So God was with the lad; and he grew and dwelt in the wilderness, and became an archer. He dwelt in the Wilderness of Paran; and his mother took a wife for him from the land of Egypt. Genesis 21: 12-21
Brothers, what do we see here? We see that Ibrahim was teaching his son Ishmael to call out to God. Ishmael prayed God and God herd him! God sent an angel to his mother and gave them water.
God predicted future of Ishmael and his descendants (by saying these words of blessings God of course knew the future of Arabs under Islam and bloodshed which they performed. He knew it because God is Omniscient). But however God also knew that Arabs are those who will be saved and will called HIS INHERITANCE through their FAITH in Ibn Allah too.
An angel prophesied to Hagar that Ishmael would �live in hostility toward all his brothers� (Genesis 16:11-12). Let�s listen to what God said through an angel
:
Genesis 16: 12
He (Ishmael) shall be a wild man;
His hand shall be against every man,
And every man�s hand against him.
And he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.�
Genesis 17:20
God said:
And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers,
and I will make him into a great nation.
From Ishmael proceeded the12 tribes of the Arabs. But his hand was always against every man, and every man's hand against him. All Arabs have quarrelsome temper and warlike disposition. They are continually engaged in fighting with their neighbors, and they are with them in their own defense (look at Palestine). Such the Arabs always have been, and still are.
Those that have turbulent spirits have commonly troublesome lives: they that are provoking, and injurious to others, must expect to be repaid in their own coin.
But God said that Ishmael shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren (Jews). He shall keep his ground and he is able to make his part good with them.
Thus, Arabs, God LOVES you. You are His GREAT NATION! Praise the Lord for His LOVE toward you. But what we all consider as bad character features � hatred and antagonism- should be REMOVED from you by the Holy POWER of God. Because He is going to REFINE you like GOLD to give you His HOLY LAND- the Kingdom of Heaven through your FAITH in Ibn Allah.
Israel has a right to exist as a nation in its own land that God gave to the descendants of Ibrahim and Isaac. At the same time, we should remember that Arabs are Israel because the name is NOTHING. But the origin is EVERYTHING. Arabs have the same blood in their vanes as Jews. This is the blood of their father Ibrahim.
God commands us to PURSUE peace!
But you also should remember that God said:
"Yes, but your wife Sarah will bear you a son, and you will call him Isaac.
I will establish my covenant with him as an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him. Genesis 17:19
What does it mean?
It means that God is with Isaac and his descendants. It is a confirmation made by God that He is with Israel. And that there is no other god in Islam. Everlasting Covenant with God should be made though Israelites and NOT Arabs in Islam (which is one of the millions of the false religions in this world. Islam not only deceives and kills millions of our Arab brothers but it is pulling them down to hell like oil to the fire).
God said about His WAY before existence of Islam. His Way is SALVATION for every Arab and Muslim through their FAITH in God Jesus/Ibn Allah, REPENTANCE of their sins and ABANDONING of their sins. You should TURN from your sins to God of Israel.
Now it is the choice of Arabs and Muslims to reconsider your scripture and God's words to choose your future and destiny.
God Jesus said who is NOT with Me is AGAINST Me.
�Pray for the peace of Jerusalem:
May those who love you be secure.�
Psalm 122:6
Because of the fallen nature of man/ sins, conflicts in relationships with God and people are a fact of life, even for believers in Christ.
Loving communication doesn�t come naturally or easily to anyone.
But we have ONE TEACHER and ONE FATHER who is teaching us the His Way of life though His holy words in the Bible. That�s why we need to study God�s instructions in relationships. Applying God�s principles to relationships will enable us to handle conflict most effectively.
What are God�s instructions?
LOVE people and LOVE God.
We are taught by God not insult people if people insult us.
Because if they do it because of the Lord�s name then GREAT will be our reward in Heaven!
We are taught to be like lambs among wolfs but at the same time we should use our sword the WORDS of God. God is teaching us to turn other cheek and do not RESIST those who insult us.
Jesus Himself says to you:
You have heard that it was said, �An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.
But I tell you not to resist an evil person.
But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also.
If anyone wants to sue you and take away your tunic, let him have your cloak also.
And whoever compels you to go one mile, go with him two.
Give to him who asks you, and from him who wants to borrow from you do not turn away.
How should we live? Let�s look at some of examples. My christian sister Ella said:
WOW! Bahira, they really come after you don't they. But Jesus warned us of all this because darkness doesn't love the light, and whenever light shines into darkness there is conflict.
Yes, you're right we must always forgive, and I have always been a person who forgives easily, and I think this is why God called me into the mission street ministry with homeless street people. Can't work in this type of ministry if you don't forgive, too much is at stake...
This is where I work with the homeless people on the streets for over 27 years... and, what the Arabs say to you is not too bad, you should hear what some homeless people have said, and the words they use just because we were trying to help them off the streets.
But I got my training working in night clubs as a singer before I became born again, and there is nothing worse than dealing with drunks who think they are in love with you, and refuse to take no for an answer.
Of course, forgiveness this is the only response, because as Paul says we are not fighting with flesh and blood but with powers and principalities in high place, and we must pull down these strongholds through prayer and with the word of God, as satan is using people as he pleases to do his work.
Many people can't handle witnessing and I think that's why people don't do as Jesus has commanded us to do, be His witnesses.
Summary: To solve our conflicts we need to BELIVE in God. To be at peace with one another. To love one another. To build up one another. To esteem others as better than yourself. To accept one another. To be devoted to one another�..Why? Because God loves us so and God loves our enemies the same way. God LOVES all of us and being our Father is calls us to do what He is doing. By doing it we are NOT of this world! Because we do NOT what the world does, but what our Father does!
we should search with lamp and light after errors and contradictions in science to align it in accordance with the Holy Scripture.
We have science to help us to explain how God created everything and how it works. But it is written in the Scripture.
That's why it is better to study the Scripture and then do scientific researches because in this case we will see everything in details....
For example: In Islam Muslims believe that Beer Lahai Roi well is Zamzam well in Mecca. Is it really so?
Look what happened:
When Hagar thought that Ishmael will die God showed her a well.
Then God opened her eyes and she saw a well of water. So she went and filled the skin with water and gave the boy a drink. Genesis 21:19
But there is another story also which reads (read the context also below):
Genesis 16
�go in to my maid; perhaps I shall obtain children by her.� And Abram heeded the voice of Sarai. 3 Then Sarai, Abram�s wife, took Hagar her maid, the Egyptian, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan. 4 So he went in to Hagar, and she conceived. And when she saw that she had conceived, her mistress became despised in her eyes.
5 Then Sarai said to Abram, �My wrong be upon you! I gave my maid into your embrace; and when she saw that she had conceived, I became despised in her eyes. The LORD judge between you and me.�
6 So Abram said to Sarai, �Indeed your maid is in your hand; do to her as you please.� And when Sarai dealt harshly with her, she fled from her presence.
7 Now the Angel of the LORD found her by a spring of water in the wilderness, by the spring on the way to Shur. 8 And He said, �Hagar, Sarai�s maid, where have you come from, and where are you going?�
She said, �I am fleeing from the presence of my mistress Sarai.�
9 The Angel of the LORD said to her, �Return to your mistress, and submit yourself under her hand.� 10 Then the Angel of the LORD said to her, �I will multiply your descendants exceedingly, so that they shall not be counted for multitude.� 11 And the Angel of the LORD said to her:
� Behold, you are with child,
And you shall bear a son.
You shall call his name Ishmael,
Because the LORD has heard your affliction.
12 He shall be a wild man;
His hand shall be against every man,
And every man�s hand against him.
And he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.�
13 Then she called the name of the LORD who spoke to her, You-Are-the-God-Who-Sees; for she said, �Have I also here seen Him who sees me?� 14 Therefore the well was called Beer Lahai Roi;[observe, it is between Kadesh and Bered.
15 So Hagar bore Abram a son; and Abram named his son, whom Hagar bore, Ishmael. 16 Abram was eighty-six years old when Hagar bore Ishmael to Abram.
Genesis 16:7 The angel of the LORD found Hagar near a spring in the desert; it was the spring that is beside the road to Shur.
Genesis 16:14 That is why the well was called Beer Lahai Roi; it is still there, between Kadesh and Bered
So, location of Beer Lahai Roi well: a well west of Kadesh, south of Israel. The location is stated to be on the road to Shur between Kadesh and Bered.
Here you can read great commentary why Islamic Zamzam cannt be this place:
