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Admin	� It was written : "A time is coming" .... The time is now! Posted : 7 May, 2011 03:33 AM Jeremiah 31 "A time is coming declares YHWH, when I will make a new covenant .....it will not be like the first covenant I made ....This is the covenant I will make .... I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts." 2Corinthians 3 ~ "He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant --- not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life." � The Old Covenant was written down, anyone could read it, so why is it written in our hearts and minds? � If the New Covenant is Not like the Old Covenant then why write the same old laws over again on our hearts and minds? � If the Old Covenant kills then why does God write it on our hearts and minds when we enter into the New Covenant? Post Reply
View Profile History	� It was written : "A time is coming" .... The time is now! Posted : 7 May, 2011 06:18 AM They're written in our hearts because after Jesus died, God's people were in a whole new ball-park. Keeping the Ten Commandments doesn't give life, but the Spirit does. _____________________________ But their minds were blinded; for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. ~~~~ But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.~~~ Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away. (2Corinthians 3:14-16)~~~~~~ Two, I think keeping the Commandments may have been an almost impossible thing to do for man, until Jesus wrote them on our "new" hearts. ~~~~~ I know how I mean to answer you questions~~~~ just not sure it's coming across right. Post Reply
View Profile History	� It was written : "A time is coming" .... The time is now! Posted : 7 May, 2011 07:28 AM Thanks Chevy, I definitely think you are on the right track. I have been thinking about this for a week. Between Icebro posts and something I heard at Church it got me thinking if the law brings death then why does God write it on our hearts? I know Jesus fulfilled the law; with the righteous requirements of the law fulfilled, we now follow the Spirit, not the law. We could never fulfill the law in ourselves. Could it be the law is written in our hearts to remind us our own shortcomings and therefore keeps us consciously dependent on Jesus to fulfill the law in us by following the Spirit. Let me go one step further .... Those who spend their effort in trying to follow the law do not trust the Holy Spirit to lead them. They fear the Spirit will not keep the law in them. They do not trust the Spirit can lead them so they lead themselves instead by the law written in stone and on paper. Allow me to go two steps further .... If one believes in the forgiveness of sin thru Jesus but does not believe following His Spirit is Salvation and Life, isn't that only 1/2 the Gospel? Post Reply
View Profile History	� It was written : "A time is coming" .... The time is now! Posted : 7 May, 2011 08:16 AM Two, I was taught that the law was written in the heart of man during the time of the Old Testament, so that no man could have an excuse of not knowing God's Law. In addition to knowing God's Law, it was also used to reveal to us how much of a Savior we needed. That we could not do anything on our own. Post Reply
View Profile History	� It was written : "A time is coming" .... The time is now! Posted : 7 May, 2011 08:57 AM Yes Cat, you are right, the law is a task master that drives us to Jesus, however this passage in Jeremiah 32 and another in Hebrews 8 clearly state the law will be written on the hearts of men after we come to Jesus. Know what I mean Jelly Bean! Post Reply
View Profile History	� It was written : "A time is coming" .... The time is now! Posted : 7 May, 2011 09:10 AM Two I am not sure of what you are after, but as you notice it is obvious that believers often have no idea of what bible truth's are. Post Reply
View Profile History	� It was written : "A time is coming" .... The time is now! Posted : 7 May, 2011 10:09 AM Well, P.J., I'd ask that you enlighten us, but I don't feel like reading a bunch of rambling today. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thanks, Two~~ I see what you're saying. Great topic! Post Reply
View Profile History	� It was written : "A time is coming" .... The time is now! Posted : 7 May, 2011 10:14 AM Now Chevy I have never been one to ramble nor do I say anything lightly. We are expected to know the truth, it is not the lord Jesus that is beyond all the second guessing. But as you say I am not going to contend, but you will find that the word of God is true, and when you find scripture that proves what one might believe to be truth, contradicted then man has to adjust, not the word. Post Reply
View Profile History	� It was written : "A time is coming" .... The time is now! Posted : 7 May, 2011 10:53 AM "When God gives orders and tells us what will happen if we fail to obey those orders perfectly, that is in the category of what the reformers, following the biblical text, called law. When God promises freely, providing for us because of Christ's righteousness the status he demands of us, this is in the category of gospel. It is good news from start to finish. The Bible includes both, and the reformers were agreed that the Scriptures taught clearly that the law, whether Old or New Testament commands, was not eliminated for the believer (those from a Dispensational background may notice a difference here). Nevertheless, they insisted that nothing in this category of law could be a means of justification or acceptance before a holy God ... The law comes, not to reform the sinner nor to show him or her the "narrow way" to life, but to crush the sinner's hopes of escaping God's wrath through personal effort or even cooperation. All of our righteousness must come from someone else-someone who has fulfilled the law's demands. Only after we have been stripped of our "filthy rags" of righteousness (Isa. 64:6)- our fig leaves through which we try in vain to hide our guilt and shame-can we be clothed with Christ's righteousness. First comes the law to proclaim judgment and death, then the gospel to proclaim justification and life. One of the clearest presentations of this motif is found in Paul's Epistle to the Galatians. In the sixteenth century, the issue of law and grace was more clearly dealt with than at almost any other time since the apostles." Modern Reformation Good News: The Gospel for Christians (May/June 2003) Post Reply
View Profile History	� It was written : "A time is coming" .... The time is now! Posted : 7 May, 2011 11:30 AM James, thanks for the post, however we are talking about why the law is written on the mind and hearts of men 'after' they come to Jesus. Post Reply
View Profile History	� It was written : "A time is coming" .... The time is now! Posted : 7 May, 2011 11:53 AM Twosparrows said: Jeremiah 31 "A time is coming declares YHWH, when I will make a new covenant .....it will not be like the first covenant I made ....This is the covenant I will make .... I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts." 2Corinthians 3 ~ "He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant --- not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life." � The Old Covenant was written down, anyone could read it, so why is it written in our hearts and minds? James replies: What we see in the Bible is God's plan gradually coming into focus. When the Ten commandments (the Law) were first written down, things became clearer. later when the Holy Spirit came and entered the hearts of God's people in a more powerful way, things became clearer still. Twosparrows said: � If the New Covenant is Not like the Old Covenant then why write the same old laws over again on our hearts and minds? James replies: The New covenant is an expansion of the Old covenant. In the same way God did NOT just "write the same old laws over again" in our hearts. If you think about it, the Pharisees and Sadducees Looked obeying God's law OUTWARDLY and that was it. Then we Jesus teaching that we should obey God's law inwardly as well as outwardly. The Sermon on the Mount is a great example, because Jesus goes through nine of the Ten Commandments, and applied them inwardly. Twosparrows said: � If the Old Covenant kills then why does God write it on our hearts and minds when we enter into the New Covenant? James replies: The Old covenant did not kill. The Law was given for several reasons, but the main one was to show God's people that they could NOT be right with Him by obedience to it. It was impossible to obey the law perfectly, and THAT drove them to faith in the Messiah, as opposed to faith in themselves. In Christ, James Post Reply

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