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I am THREE
Posted : 6 May, 2011 09:58 AM

Brothers, below is my conversation with a Muslim and I hope it will be useful for you too.





Soul and spirit: Human beings were intended to have a relationship with God that�s why God created us with both material and immaterial parts. He created us in His Image. We are Like He is THREE and ONE i.e. tri-united.

Let�s consider Taurat and Hebrew language of the Taurat to understand what is soul and spirit. Then let�s look at Qur�an too:

The material is obviously that which is tangible: the physical body, bones, organs, etc., and exists as long as the person is alive. The immaterial aspects are those which are intangible: soul, spirit, intellect, will, conscience, etc. These exist beyond the physical lifespan of the individual.

So, in Genesis 2:7 states that man was created as a living soul: And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul/being.

The "breath of life" is special to this passage. It expresses the spiritual and principal element in man, which is not formed, but breathed by the Creator into the physical form of man. And the man became a living soul. Note: God breathed into his nostrils the breath of life. In Hebrew it is called נשמת חיים nishmath chaiyim, the breath of Life. God�s inspiration gave both spirit and the man became soul.

So, in Taurat/the Holy Scripture we see that there are used two different words:

The word for "soul" in the Old Testament is nephesh.

The word for "spirit" in the Old Testament is either ruach or neshamah.

In Islam: Ruh has several different usages in the Qur'an with a wide range of meanings. Qur�an says:



15:29 "When I have fashioned him [Adam] (in due proportion) and breathed into him a Ruh from Me, fall ye down in obedience unto him."



So, we see now that we all are souls and spirits and bodies united together and acting in unity like God.

But what is the meaning of spirit in every man? In the Holy Scripture, only believers in God Jesus are said to be spiritually alive (1 Corinthians 2:11; Hebrews 4:12; James 2:26), while unbelievers are spiritually dead (Ephesians 2:1-5; Colossians 2:13). The spirit is like connection line/internet provider which gives us the ability to have an intimate relationship with God i.e. to connect with Him for communication. We communicate with God if we talk to Him in our prayers. If we talk to Indian cows then there is something wrong with our communication line and cow NEVER answers! So, we need to fix communication line with God. We need to be spiritually ALIVE. It happens when we repent of our sins, confess them to God in salat and believe in Ibn Allah.

So, whenever the word �spirit� is used in the Holy Scripture, it refers to the immaterial part of humanity that �connects� with God, who Himself is spirit (John 4:24).

About the Trinity:

�Trinity�or in other words TRI-UNITY is a term that is used to attempt to describe the triune God�three coexistent, co-eternal Persons who make up God. How is it possible? Yes, it is possible because God is NOT a human being. He is the Supreme Being. Even Arab nation is one but you Muhammad is an Arab and your son will be an Arab and your father is also son of an Arab man. But the Arab nation is ONE. Because you all are united by common features and origin. There is no such word �trinity� in the Bible but there is the concept represented by the word �Trinity�in Scripture. The following is what God�s Word says about the Trinity:

1) There is one God.

2) The Trinity consists of three Persons . In Genesis 1:1, the Hebrew plural noun �Elohim� is used. In Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7 and Isaiah 6:8, the plural pronoun for �us� is used. The word �Elohim� and the pronoun �us� are plural forms, definitely referring in the Hebrew language to more than two. The Hebrew word for �God,� �Elohim,� definitely allows for the Trinity.

Matthew 3:16-17 describes the event of Jesus� baptism. During the baptism of Jesus the Holy Spirit descending on God the Son while God the Father proclaims His pleasure in the Son.

Note that each member of the Trinity is God. (The Father is God. The Son is God. The Holy Spirit is God. There is subordination within the Trinity. Scripture shows that the Son is subordinate to the Father.

Note also that the Son is the agent through whom the Father does the following works: the creation and maintenance of the universe. Yes, Muhammad, Jesus is Kalimat-Ullah and He created the universe and people according to the Holy Scripture! The Father does all these things through the Son.

The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are not parts of God; each of them is God! Look what Jesus said: (John 10:30)

I (Jesus) and the Father are one.�

We do believe that God is ONE. He is tri-united and acting in UNITY. But why? Because God REVEALED us that on the pages of His Holy Scripture! The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are not parts of God; each of them is God!

Look I am ONE � Bahira- and at the same time I am 3 (body, soul, spirit). When my body will die I will be judged. Who am I? Who will be judged? So, I am living in the body the same way as God Jesus lived in the body. He was incarnated into human body but He was and is the SPIRIT. God is the Spirit (it is His nature/essence) and NOT human being.

We are created in God�s image. So, God Son, Father and Ruh Al Qudus are THREE and UNITED. They are acting in unity and their ESSENCE or nature is the same- GOD. So, that�s why we believe in ONE God. The same way as Arab father is an Arab, his son is an Arab and wife is an Arab. But the Arab nation is ONE!!! Water could also be in different forms (steam, ice, snow) but its nature is WATER.

Do you remember that Isa is also Kalimat-Ullah? He is the Word of God and He is God (the Scripture says). But even my words are the same as my mind. My words are product or byproduct of my mind. By my words I could be justified and condemned in the court. Why? Because my words are ME. The same way God Jesus according to Qur�an and the Bible was called Kalimat-ullah or the Word of God. It means He is the EXACT representation of God Father. He is Father the same way like my words are me even if they would be written or recorded with a tape recorder. Properties are the same because I am ACTING in unity with my body parts �and even with words..the same way God is Acting in UNITY and this UNITY was called by Him as Oneness/Tawhid. He said: God is ONE.

About the Holy Scripture:

Who wrote the GOSPELS? � Sura 42:51-52 states clearly that Allah may not speak to men except by inspiration. In the context of the Scriptures, the word �inspiration� simply means �God-breathed.� In 2 Timothy 3:16 we read,

�All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.�

This verse tells us that God inspired all Scripture and that it is profitable to us.

The Holy Bible says that all words in the Bible are written by people inspired by the God. And He has not spoken in only one, but in a variety of ways:

1. Creation, nature.

2. Actions, in amazing miracles and the different ways God has intervened directly in human affairs.

3. Prophets, by the words given to them.

4. Jesus, the perfect Word of God/Kalimat-Ullah, showed us who God is. �In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe.� (Hebrews 1:1-2)

The 4 Gospels are the �ahaadith a-sahiiha� (the correct traditions) on the life of Jesus. In the law courts at least two witnesses were needed to prove a truth. We have the three Gospels on the life of Jesus (Matthew, Mark, and Luke) which testify to Jesus� life and sayings. The are accounts of eyes witnesses of the life of God Jesus.

We have today in our possession 5,300 known Greek manuscripts of the New Testament, another 10,000 Latin Vulgates, and 9,300 other early versions, giving us more than 24,000 manuscript copies of portions of the New Testament in existence today and kept in the museums!

The first human author to write down the biblical records was Moses. He was commanded by God to take on this task, for Exodus 34:27 records God�s words to Moses, �Write down these words, for in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel.�And what language did he use? He wrote in his native language, called Hebrew! It was the language of Israel and our fathers.



Please ponder Muhammad:



"If the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will give life to your mortal bodies also through his Spirit which dwells in you." Romans 8:11



That�s why soon even our bodies will be resurrected by the same power of the God/the Holy Spirit/ �Ibn Allah. Why? To live eternally in the New World called the Kingdom of Heaven created by God Jesus for the SMALL REMNANT!

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Posted : 6 May, 2011 03:14 PM

:applause:...most Excellant...God is doing a wonderous work through you...thank you...xo

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Posted : 6 May, 2011 06:57 PM

Just sharing a thought:

We have the flesh ie : the body, mind and heart.

We have "A" spirit given every man by God to make him alive.

The flesh and spirit combined equals a soul, ie : who we are.

Who we are is a Mortal being created by God.

It is only when 'The Spirit' of God unites with our soul do we become Immortal beings.

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Posted : 8 May, 2011 02:08 AM

Thank you sister and brother!:applause: :waving:

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