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Faith in the Invisible
Posted : 18 Aug, 2019 08:53 PM

What is the singular light in Genesis before the sun and moon were made?

The Word of God brings light. Spiritual illumination. God spoke and there was light which he divided from the darkness before the sun and moon were made. God's Word is a light to our dark minds which points to Jesus Christ.

God being invisible made all things manifest and visible through his Word...likewise, when we have faith in the invisible we look beyond the visible and what our natural eyes show us. A reversal .

With that being said, how does your faith grow.?

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Faith in the Invisible
Posted : 22 Aug, 2019 09:24 PM

I got to shower ...nearly midnight too.

Maybe my brain will wake up .

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Posted : 22 Aug, 2019 10:18 PM

Teddyhugs quote:

You still do not understand it yet? Two lights keep the appointed times, His mo'eds!

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I have been at this for 3 hours. There was two lights yes...sun and moon. Something along the lines like this???



Then God said, "Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for lunar Sabbaths and lunar months, and for lunar solar days and lunisolar years . . .

Is that right?

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Posted : 23 Aug, 2019 05:47 AM

The Preterists believe that everything in the Olivet prophecies in Matthew 24 and 25, Mark 13 and Luke 21 and all the prophecies in Revelation were completed in a **KINGDOM ON EARTH** with flesh and blood {See ! Cor 15:50,51 below} in AD 70???



**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??



**WE** ARE ALL WAITING FOR THE NEW HEAVEN THE NEW EARTH AND THE ETERNAL NEW JERUSALEM**!! 2 Peter 3:13!!



2 Peter 3:10-13: But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will DISAPPEAR with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and *EVERYTHING* in it will be burned up. {DID THIS HAPPEN IN AD 70??} Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you {**CHURCH SAINTS*} wait eagerly for the Day of God to come. That Day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with His promise **WE** {Excluding the Preterists and the RC church} **ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO A **NEW HEAVENS** AND A **NEW EARTH**, the home of righteousness.



I Corinthians 15:50--51: I declare to you brothers, that flesh and blood **CANNOT INHERIT the *KINGDOM OF GOD**... Listen I tell you a mystery: we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet." {DID THIS HAPPEN IN AD 70??}



John 18:36: Jesus says, "My *KINGDOM* IS NOT OF THIS WORLD**....But now, my Kingdom is from **ANOTHER PLACE**!!"



Matthew 25:31-34,41,46:: Jesus says, "When the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the angels with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people one from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. Then the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!! Then He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the Devil and his angels....Then they will go away to **ETERNAL PUNISHMENT**, but the righteous to eternal life!" {DID THIS HAPPEN IN AD 70??}



**WE** ARE ALL WAITING FOR THE NEW EARTH, THE NEW HEAVENS AND THE HEAVENLY NEW JERUSALEM!!



Revelation 21:1-5: Then I saw a **NEW HEAVEN** and a **NEW EARTH**, for the {present} first heaven and first earth had **PASSED AWAY**, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the **NEW JERUSALEM**, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "**NOW** the dwelling of God is with men, and He will live with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes, There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making **EVERYTHING NEW**!" Then He said, "Write this down, for these words are TRUSTWORTHY and TRUE!" {DID THIS HAPPEN IN AD 70??}



Hebrews 11:13-16: All these people {Abraham, Sarah Isaac, Jacob, Noah etc} were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised; they only saw them from a distance. And they admitted that they were aliens and strangers on earth. People who say such things show they are looking for a country of their own. If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. Instead, they were looking for a BETTER COUNTRY--a HEAVENLY ONE. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a *CITY* (The *NEW JERUSALEM*} for them!! {DID THIS HAPPEN IN AD 70??}



Galatians 4:25,26: Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. But the **JERUSALEM** that is **ABOVE** is free, and she is our MOTHER !!



The New Jerusalem is described in Revelation 21:9 to Revelation 22:5. The New Jerusalem will be 12,000 stadia long, high and wide as per Revelation 21:16. A stadia is 606 feet long which is the exact same length as the ancient Greek stadium. 606 feet times 12,000 equals 7,272,000 feet which is 1377 miles plus 1,440 feet. A mile is exactly 5,280 feet. {1377 times 5,280 feet equal 7,270,560 feet.} And so the New Jerusalem will be exactly 1377 miles plus 1,440 feet long, wide and high!!



Revelation 21:9-12,15-16,19,23,27; Revelation 22:1-6: The angel said to John, “Come, I will show you the Bride the Wife of the Lamb.” And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of Heaven from God It shone like the glory of God, and its brilliance was like that of a very precious jewel. It had a great high wall {1377 miles plus 1,440 feet HIGH!} with 12 gates, and with 12 angels at the gates.



The angel who talked with me had a measuring rod of gold to measure the City, its gates and its walls. The City was laid out like a square, as long as it was wide. He measured the City with the rod and found it to be 12,000 stadia {A Stadia is exactly 606 feet} in length, and as wide and high as it is long. {1377 miles plus 1,440 feet long, wide and high} The wall was made of Jasper, and the City of pure gold, as pure as glass. The foundations of the city walls were decorated with every kind of precious stone....... The great street of the City was of pure gold, like transparent glass...... Only those written in the Lamb's Book of Life will be able to enter the New Jerusalem!



Revelation 22:1-5: Then the angel showed me the river of the Water of Life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and the Lamb {Jesus} down the middle of the great street of the City. On each side of the river stood the Tree of Life, bearing 12 crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month... The throne of God and of the **LAMB** will be in the City, and his servants will serve Him. They will see His face and His name will be on their foreheads. There will be no more night!! They will not need the light of the lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign **FOR EVER AND EVER**. The angel said to me, “These words are TRUSTWORTHY and TRUE!!” {DID THIS HAPPEN IN AD 70??}



JESUS WILL WRITE ON US THE NAME OF THE CITY OF GOD THE **NEW JERUSALEM**!!



Revelation 2:18; 3:12,21: Jesus says, "To him who overcomes I will give him a white stone with a new name written on it, known only to him who receives it... I will write on him the name of the City of My God, the **NEW JERUSALEM**, which is coming down out of heaven from My God....And I will give the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne." {DID THIS HAPPEN IN AD 70??}



According to Revelation 22:3 the only 2 thrones in the **NEW JERUSALEM** will be the thrones of the **FATHER** and of the **LAMB** Jesus Christ.



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Posted : 23 Aug, 2019 10:42 AM

Assembly...coming together in one accord for worship...so I was thinking seasons . God's people coming together to worship him on the sabbath

I am thinking of singular EYE. Let thy eye be single. Single light.

So sun and moon were created on day one. ???? His clocks are in place and running...no people ...yet...plural lights at creation...hmmmm...I am confused.

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Posted : 23 Aug, 2019 03:00 PM

Funny how looking up verses for Zech and Parrot leads you to some more juicy morsels in the Word..I saw some that stand out immediately.

Here they are.

Psalms 136:9 - The moon and stars to rule by night: for his mercy [endureth] for ever.

Psalms 136:7 - To him that made great lights: for his mercy [endureth] for ever:

aniel 12:3 - And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

I am still digging...now back to Zech and Parrot

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Posted : 23 Aug, 2019 04:07 PM

KEEP digging! Your using too small of a shovel!!! Be a big girl and get a real shovel! Lol!



I will be gone awhile, get back here when I can. Ta ta!



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Posted : 23 Aug, 2019 08:14 PM

I over think like a Gemini! I am far from it but similar in thought processes trying to see all sides beforehand when it comes to projects, tests, ect..I wonder if Tesla was the same way???? LOL!

I try and pick out key texts, verses, words...but not happening!! So ...seasons...moon....feasts...plural lights, singular light....

and then a blank ..

ok give me a hint .

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Posted : 23 Aug, 2019 08:27 PM

Exellent! Yes His clock the sun did start running (actually lit) on day one, so what's up with the plural lights on day 4 then? One of those lights mentioned on day 4 decides the "seasons...feasts..." as you rightly mentioned. So why the "blank" and "confusion" with you?



What celestial clock decides the mo'ed's, His appointed times though?



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Posted : 23 Aug, 2019 08:31 PM

To the moon Alice!. (honeymooners)

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Posted : 23 Aug, 2019 08:34 PM

You said before how certain verses get your attention, well the one you posted jumps out to me here -



Psalms 136:7 - To him that made great lights: for his mercy [endureth] for ever:



So its real clear to me He made two great lights plural and would they not then make their own light each? So the moon then does not reflect light!



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