Author	Thread: Dear Calvinists
Admin	Dear Calvinists Posted : 19 Feb, 2011 07:55 PM Dear Calvinists, I have tried very hard, searching the scriptures to prove your doctrines as truth. However, such scripture has eluded me. This is a very simple request. Can you provide me with 4 scriptures and 4 scriptures only? One each for the first 4 points of reformed doctrine. 1) Total Depravity ~ Need a scripture that says plainly man lost the ability to choose as a result of the fall. (Plainly, no fancy logic interpretations) 2) Unconditional Election ~ Need a Scripture that plainly says God chooses from all men unconditionally a few to save. (Plainly, no fancy logic interpretations) 3) Limited Atonement ~ Need a scripture that plainly says Christ's Atonement on the cross only covers a few, not the whole world. ( Plainly, no fancy logic interpretations) 4) Irresistible Grace ~ Need a Scripture that plainly says no man can resist the Grace of God. (Plainly, no fancy logic interpretations) *If you all cannot provide one plain straight forward scripture for each point, then it is quite plain you have gone beyond Scripture ....wouldn't you agree? Post Reply
View Profile History	Dear Calvinists Posted : 23 Feb, 2011 11:25 AM Joey, I have been trying to find that thread wherein you have posted about vessels for destruction and vessels of mercy, and you have gone into detail explaining this, and how and why Paul has used this information in Romans chapter 9, to express God's sovereign will and ower. God does not give man free will, God give man free choice, the freedom to chose whom he/she will serve , or what he/she will do. The purpose Paul pointed out the vessels of destruction and vessels of mercy in Romans chapter 9, and I just thought maybe you would go into more detail infomation explaining how God has the power if He so desired to make vessels fit for destruction to show his power, and vessels fit for his mercy to show his love and compassion toward man... You were heading into the right direction in part, but you stopped, so I was hoping you would continue and explain more what all this meant vessels of destrustion and vessels of mercy as it relates to all that Paul is speaking in Romans chapter 9, in order to pull the chapter together as a whole.. What does Paul mean that God makes vessels fit for descruction, what does all this mean in relation to the chapter, etc... that's all I was seeking for you to carry it to the next level. Post Reply

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