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WHO is the lord of the Sabbath?
Posted : 5 Aug, 2019 03:10 PM

There is no capitalization in the Greek therefore I took all the caps out of this KJV passage:

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"and he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: therefore the son of man is lord also of the sabbath.".................

-Mark 2:27-28

Mark is the earliest attestation of this passage. We already know all authority in heaven and earth is given to Jesus (Matthew 28:18) so no one is saying Jesus isn't Lord of the Sabbath.............................................We also know Jesus used the phrase "Son of Man" from of Daniel 7:13 to refer to himself......................

Therefore the insertion of CAPS is an acceptable addition to the translation...........................................

However in this particular case is this what the author of Mark had in mind? ............................................................

I don't think so because of the "Therefore". In other words this could read like this; 'the Sabbath was made for man (humans); Therefore the son of man (a human) is the master of it.'

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WHO is the lord of the Sabbath?
Posted : 7 Aug, 2019 09:36 AM

I was a missionary in Israel. The Orthodox Jews will throw rocks at anyone who drives their car on the Sabbath since cars burn many piston **FIRES**. The Orthodox Jews turn their lights on just before the Sabbath begins. But the utility companies burn coal **FIRES** and more coal fires are burning if you keep your lights on all during the Sabbath. The Orthodox Jews also make fake residences on street corners so they don't have to go over 7/10 tenths of a mile which is the maximum distance to travel on the Sabbath. The 7th Day Adventists are not so strict and even drive their piston burning cars on the Sabbath when they could eliminate all the piston **FIRES** by just riding a **HORSE AND BUGGY** like the Amish. The 7th Day Adventists will even allow you special dispensation to be a good church member who pays his tithes even though you have a **JOB** on the Sabbath??? Even though the Jews and 7th Day Adventists **TRY** to keep most of the Sabbath laws about 99.9 percent of the Jews and 7th Day Adventists would be **PUT TO DEATH** according to Exodus 35:2,3 above!!

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WHO is the lord of the Sabbath?
Posted : 7 Aug, 2019 09:38 AM

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People are tired of reading this boastful statemen which you have posted over 10 times the past 2 months.



I was a missionary in Israel. The Orthodox Jews will throw rocks at anyone who drives their car on the Sabbath since cars burn many piston **FIRES**. The Orthodox Jews turn their lights on just before the Sabbath begins. But the utility companies burn coal **FIRES** and more coal fires are burning if you keep your lights on all during the Sabbath. The Orthodox Jews also make fake residences on street corners so they don't have to go over 7/10 tenths of a mile which is the maximum distance to travel on the Sabbath. The 7th Day Adventists are not so strict and even drive their piston burning cars on the Sabbath when they could eliminate all the piston **FIRES** by just riding a **HORSE AND BUGGY** like the Amish. The 7th Day Adventists will even allow you special dispensation to be a good church member who pays his tithes even though you have a **JOB** on the Sabbath??? Even though the Jews and 7th Day Adventists **TRY** to keep most of the Sabbath laws about 99.9 percent of the Jews and 7th Day Adventists would be **PUT TO DEATH** according to Exodus 35:2,3 above!!

When will you trust Messiah to save you instead of trusting self proclaimed statements !!!

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WHO is the lord of the Sabbath?
Posted : 7 Aug, 2019 10:12 AM

I was a missionary in Israel. The Orthodox Jews will throw rocks at anyone who drives their car on the Sabbath since cars burn many piston **FIRES**. The Orthodox Jews turn their lights on just before the Sabbath begins. But the utility companies burn coal **FIRES** and more coal fires are burning if you keep your lights on all during the Sabbath. The Orthodox Jews also make fake residences on street corners so they don't have to go over 7/10 tenths of a mile which is the maximum distance to travel on the Sabbath. The 7th Day Adventists are not so strict and even drive their piston burning cars on the Sabbath when they could eliminate all the piston **FIRES** by just riding a **HORSE AND BUGGY** like the Amish. The 7th Day Adventists will even allow you special dispensation to be a good church member who pays his tithes even though you have a **JOB** on the Sabbath??? Even though the Jews and 7th Day Adventists **TRY** to keep most of the Sabbath laws about 99.9 percent of the Jews and 7th Day Adventists would be **PUT TO DEATH** according to Exodus 35:2,3 above!!

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WHO is the lord of the Sabbath?
Posted : 7 Aug, 2019 10:24 AM

gracenotworkssaves Satanic quotes:



"Every translation of the Word of GOD Almighty has many errors."???

"When read correctly, the English translations bring a person back under the law instead of Grace."???



And gracenotwprkssaves thinks he knows how to correct all the errors even though he is not a Greek or Hebrew scholar.



However there a lot of very good translations from the original Greek and Hebrew by many excellent Bible translators with just a few minor errors!!



**DOES GOD'S WORD SAY THAT *ADDING** OR **TAKING WORDS** AWAY FROM GOD'S WORD IS A SIN**??



WE ARE BORN AGAIN THROUGH THE LIVING AND ENDURING WORD OF GOD** 1 Peter 1:23



Deuteronomy 18:17-19: The Lord said to Moses, "I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among your fellow Israelites, and I will put My words in His mouth. He will tell them **EVERYTHING** I command Him. I Myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to My words that the Prophet speaks in My name!!"



John 14:21-24: Jesus says, "Whoever has My commands and keeps them is the one who loves Me... Anyone who loves Me will obey My teaching, My Father will love them, and We will come to them and make Our home with them.. Anyone who does not love Me will not obey My teaching. These words you hear are not My own; they belong to the Father who sent Me!" {See Deut 18:17-19 above}



Luke 6:46-49: Jesus says, "As for everyone who comes to Me and hears **MY WORDS** and **PUTS THEM INTO PRACTICE**. I will show you what they are like. They are like a man building a house, who dug down deep and laid foundation on rock. When the flood came, the torrent struck that house but could not shake it, because it was well built. But the one who hears **MY WORDS** and does not put them into practice is like a man who built a house on the ground without a foundation. The moment the torrent struck that house, it collapsed and its destruction was complete!"



I Peter 1:23-25: You have been **BORN AGAIN THROUGH THE LIVING AND ENDURING **WORD OF GOD**!! All men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field, the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the **WORD OF THE LORD STANDS FOREVER**. And this is the **WORD** that was preached to you.



Matthew 24:35: Jesus says, Heaven and earth will pass away, but **MY WORDS WILL NEVER PASS AWAY**!"



I John 2:3-5: We know we have come to know Him {Jesus} if we obey His commands. The man who says, "I know Him," but does not do what He commands is a liar and the truth is not in him. But if anyone **OBEYS HIS WORD**, God's love is truly made complete in him!



Matthew 4:4: Jesus says, "Man does not live on bread alone, but on **EVERY WORD FROM THE MOUTH OF GOD**!"



Luke 8:15: Jesus says, "But the seed on good soil stands for those with a noble and good heart, who hear the **WORD**, retain it, and by perseverance produce a crop."



John 17:17: Jesus prays to His Father, "Sanctify them by the Truth, **YOUR WORD IS TRUTH**!"



Acts 20:32: Paul says, "Now I commit you to God and to the **WORD OF HIS GRACE**, which can build you up and give you an inheritance among all those who are sanctified!"



Romans 10:17: Consequently, **FAITH COMES FROM HEARING THE MESSAGE**, and the message is heard **THROUGH THE WORD OF CHRIST**!



James 1:18; He chose to give us **BIRTH THROUGH THE WORD** of Truth!!



I Corinthians 15:2: By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the **WORD** preached to you. Otherwise you have believed in vain!



2 Corinthians 4:2: We do not use deception, nor do we distort the **WORD OF GOD**!



Ephesians 1:13: You also were included in Christ **WHEN** you heard the **WORD** of Truth, the gospel of your salvation.



Ephesians 2:17: Take the sword of the Spirit, which is the **WORD OF GOD**!



Colossians 1:25: I have become its servant by the commission God gave to me to present to you the **WORD OF GOD IN ALL ITS FULLNESS**!



Colossians 3:16: Let the **WORD OF CHRIST** dwell in you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom!



I Thessalonians 2:13: We thank God continually because, when you received the **WORD OF GOD**, which you heard from us, you received it not as the word of men, but as it actually is, the **WORD OF GOD**!



Acts 17:11,12: Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and **EXAMINED THE SCRIPTURES EVERY DAY**... As a result many of them believed!!



Psalm 118:147,148: I rise before dawn and cry for help; I have put my hope in **YOUR WORD**! My eyes stay open through the watches of the night, that I might meditate on **YOUR PROMISES**!!



2 Timothy 2:15: Do your best to present yourselves to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who **CORRECTLY HANDLES THE WORD ** of truth!



2 Timothy 3:15,16: 4:1,2: You have known the **HOLY SCRIPTURES**, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. **ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD**!! {**WHICH IS THE ENTIRE NEW COVENANT AND NEW TESTAMENT**!!} Be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people {Like GNWS} will not put up with sound doctrine!



**DOES GOD"S WORD SAY THAT **ADDING** OR **TAKING WORD'S AWAY** FROM GOD's WORD IS AN UMPARDONABLE SIN**??



Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus. have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the Churches.... I warn everyone who hears the **WORDS OF THE PROPHECY OF THIS BOOK**: If anyone **ADDS** {Like GNWS} anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this Book {Including **ETERNAL HELL** in Rev 14:9-11} And if anyone **TAKES WORDS AWAY** {Like GNWS} from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The New Jerusalem}, which are described in this book."



John 16: Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into all the Truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will glorify Me because it is from Me that he will receive what he will make known to you!"



And holy spirit inspired the 8 writers of the 27 books of the New Testament to write everything Jesus told him to write!!



THE GREAT COMMISSION: Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, “All authority in heaven and on ***EARTH*** has been given to Me {Not some RC Pope}. Therefore go and make disciples of *ALL NATIONS*...teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING** {The entire NT} I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very *END OF THE AGE*!”

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WHO is the lord of the Sabbath?
Posted : 8 Aug, 2019 01:38 PM

GNWS Quote:



Richard says;



The Divine Scripture I quoted in my Bible study clearly shows how one of God's chosen saints is saved. Upon hearing the Divine Words of God the Father gives him the **FREE GIFT OF FAITH** in the Divine Blood of Jesus to make Atonement for his sins. Then the Born from above saint is baptized with the **HOLY SPIRIT** by Jesus so that he can understand God's Word which clearly shows him how to gain countless eternal heavenly rewards for faithful and loving service.



Then GNWS who must be absolutely **BLIND** quotes:



Richard, this is not the Gospel as recording in the Scriptures. No wonder you act like you do, there is no **HOLY SPIRIT** with what you believe.



gracenotworkssaves also believes that there are numerous terrible errors in all the Bible translations and he knows how to correct these errors even though he has had no Greek language training.



I have posted about 40 different Bible studies on this forum and have committed the terrible sin of posting many Scriptures without first asking GMWS if there is a terrible error in that particular Scripture since he is the only Divine Bible Translator on this forum.



However, I hope GNWS can find it in his heart to forgive those who believe he is just another False Prophet guilty of the terrible sin of **QUACKERY**. Actually **QUACKERY** is such an evil sin that there are no words in any language that can even begin to describe it!!



I Peter 1:23-25: You have been **BORN AGAIN THROUGH THE LIVING AND ENDURING **WORD OF GOD**!! All men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field, the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the **WORD OF THE LORD STANDS FOREVER**. And this is the **WORD** that was preached to you.



2 Timothy 3:15,16: 4:1,2: You have known the **HOLY SCRIPTURES**, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. **ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD**!! {**WHICH IS THE ENTIRE NEW COVENANT AND NEW TESTAMENT**!!} Be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people {Like GNWS} will not put up with sound doctrine!



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Posted : 9 Aug, 2019 06:28 AM

John 1:8-10: If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. **IF WE CONFESS OUR SINS, HE IS FAITHFUL AND JUST AND WILL FORGIVE OUR SINS** and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned we make Him out to be a liar and His Word is not in us!



Luke 11:1-4: The **DISCIPLES** asked Jesus, "Lord teach as to pray." Jesus replied **TO HIS DISCIPLES**, "When you pray, say: '**FATHER**, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. Give us each day our **DAILY** bread. **FORGIVE US OUR SINS**, for we also forgive everyone who sins against

us!'"







James 5:16: **CONFESS YOUR SINS** to each other and pray for each other!!



Galatians 6:1-3: Is someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore him gently... Carry each others burdens, and in this way you fulfill the **LAW OF CHRIST**!!



I John 2:6: Whoever claims to live in Him **MUST** LIVE AS JESUS DID**!!



Zecharyah: Do you **LIVE AS JESUS LIVED** If not you must **CONFESS YOUR SIN**? **REPENT OF YOUR SIN** and **ASK GOD TO FORGIVE YOUR SIN EVERY DAY**



I Thessalonians 5:17,18: "**PRAY CONTINUALLY**; GIVE THANKS IN ALL CIRCUMSTANCES, FOR THIS IS GOD'S WILL FOR YOU IN CHRIST JESUS!!"



Zecharyah, **DO YOU PRAY CONTINUALLY AND GIVE THANKS IN ALL CIRCUMSTANCES**?? If not you need to **CONFESS YOUR SIN** **REPENT OF YOUR SIN** and **ASK GOD TO FORGIVE YOU OF YOUR SIN EVERY DAY**!!



**IF WE DO NOT ASK THE FATHER IN JESUS NAME TO FORGIVE US OUR SINS AND REPENT OF OUR SINS GOD WILL DISCIPLINE US**



Revelation 3:19: Jesus says, "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline, so be earnest and **REPENT**!!"



Hebrews 12:5-11: Do not make light of the Lord's discipline, and do not lose heart when He rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines those He loves, and He chastens **EVERYONE** He accepts as a son! Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as His children. For what children are not disciplined by their father? If you are not disciplined--and everyone undergoes discipline--then you are not legitimate, not true sons and daughters at all. Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live! They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in His holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it!



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WHO is the lord of the Sabbath?
Posted : 10 Aug, 2019 09:29 AM

Jesus Christ is our great God and our **HEAD TEACHER** and he also appoints teachers to teach His teachings while He is in heaven according to God's Word!!



Zecharyah has stated that is wrong to call our great God and Savior Jesus Christ our **HEAD TEACHER** since adding the word **HEAD** would be adding to God's Word and that Jesus is our only **TEACHER**??



**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??



Ephesians 4:7,11-13,16: To each one of us grace has been given as Christ apportioned it... So Christ Himself {Not the church!} gives some to be apostles, some to be **PROPHETS**, some to be **EVAMGELISTS** and some to be **PASTORS** and **TEACHERS**, to equip His people for works of service. so that the body of Christ may be built up until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ....Speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every way the mature body of Him who is the **HEAD**, that is, **CHRIST**! From Him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work!



I Timothy 5:17: The **ELDERS** who direct the affairs of the church well are worthy of a double honor, especially those whose work is **PREACHING ** and **TEACHING**!



I Timothy 3:1 Whoever desires to be an **OVERSEER** desires a noble task. Now the **OVERSEER**is to be above reproach, faithful to **HIS** wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable and **ABLE TO TEACH**!!



Romans 12:4-7: We have different gifts, according to the grace given to each of us. If your gift is **PROPHESYING**, then prophesy in accordance with your faith, if it is **TEACHING**,**THEN TEACH**!



Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, "**ALL AUTHORITY** in heaven and on earth has been given to **ME**. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations...**TEACHING** them to **OBEY EVERYTHING** I have commanded you. And srely I am with you always, to the very end of the age!!"



**TEACHING** them to obey everything Jesus commanded would include all the books in the New Testament since Jesus commanded the holy spirit to inspire all of the books in the New Testament as per:



John 16:12-14: Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when the spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on His own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will glorify Me because it is from Me that he will receive what he will make known to you!"



**THERE ARE ALSO FALSE TEACHERS LIKE ZECHARYAH AND SATAN THAT TEACH YOU ARE SAVED BY GOOD WORKS**??



**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??



Titus 3:3,4: At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another. But when the kindness and **LOVE** of God our Savior appeared , He saved us, **NOT BECAUSE OF RIGHTEOUS THINGS WE HAD DONE**, but because of **HIS MERCY**!!



Ephesians 2:8,9: For it is by **GRACE** you have been saved, through **FAITH**—and this **NOT FROM YOURSELVES**, it is the **GIFT OF GOD**—not by works. So that no one can boast. For we are **GOD'S WORKMANSHIP**, created in Christ Jesus to do **GOOD WORKS**, which God prepared in advance for us to do!



2 Timothy 3:15,16: 4:1,2: You have known the **HOLY SCRIPTURES**, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. **ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for **TEACHING**, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD**!! {**WHICH IS THE ENTIRE NEW COVENANT AND NEW TESTAMENT**!!} Be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people {Like Zecharyah} will not put up with sound doctrine!



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