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Blood, Death or Both?
Posted : 24 Jul, 2019 05:52 PM

I am still on the fence with John McArthur.... He had that quote I can't get out of my head...The blood doesn't save. You are saved by his death (sacrifice) ...then he says , The blood is just a euphemistic way of saying death...Well euphemistic means the same thing, just said in a different way....so does the blood save or death? I know his sacrifice takes away sins and his blood saves us from wrath. I wonder how you defend McArthur on this since to me he seems to be speaking in riddles since he said there wasn't anything magic in his blood. .

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Posted : 27 Jul, 2019 07:24 PM

**ON WHAT DAY DID JESUS BECOME OUR PASSOVER LAMB ON PASSOVER DAY?? AND ON WHAT DAY WAS THE RESURRECTION DAY OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST**??



**DOES BIBLE CHRONOLGY SHOW THAT THE 30th BIRTHDAY OF JESUS WAS ON NOVEMBER 14TH AD 29**??



Numbers 28:16: “On the 14th day of the **FIRST MONTH** the Lord’s Passover is to be held.” Exodus 12:6,7,12,13: “Take care of them {The Passover Lambs} until the 14th day of the month when all the people of Israel must slaughter them {See Lev 23:5} at Twilight {Just after sundown to nightfall on Passover Day! 1 Cor 5:7: “For Christ our PASSOVER LAMB has been sacrificed.” Whereas the Jews {who were following the evil Babylonian moon calendar} held their Passover on the 15th of Nisan {Which always occurs on the night of a full moon} and observed the Passover on the WRONG DAY as per John 18:28: “Then the Jews led Jesus from Caiaphas to the palace of the Roman Governor {Pilate}. By now it was early morning, and to avoid ceremonial uncleanness the Jews did not enter the palace; for they wanted to be able to eat the PASSOVER!!” Which would have been the day “AFTER” Jesus correctly held the Passover on the 14th of ABIB {*THE FIRST BIBLE MONTH*} which God had commanded. So we can assume that the month of ABIB is different from the Babylonian moon month of Nisan and therefore has nothing to do with the moon.



When does the **FIRST MONTH** of the Bible Year called ABIB begin?? Many Bible scholars believe that it always begins of the first day of SPRING or sundown March 20th to sundown March 21st for ABIB is the Hebrew word for SPRING!!! And so the 14th {*7+7*} Day of ABIB can also be translated the 14th {*7+7*} day of SPRING!!



All encyclopedias state that Augustus Caesar died on August 19, AD 14 and therefore *EVERYONE AGREES that the 15th year of the reign of his successor, Tiberius Caesar, would have been from August 19, AD 28 to August 19, AD 29.



Luke 3:1,2: “In the 15th year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar… the Word of God came to John son of Zechariah in the desert.” EVERYONE WHO AGREES that the Bible is the inspired Word of God agrees that John began his ministry in the 15th year of Tiberius Caesar which was definitely from August 19, AD 28 to August 19, AD 29!! Now we know from Luke 3:1-3 above that John the Baptist began his ministry in the 15th year of Tiberius which most likely began on his 30th birthday according to OT Law {As per I Chron 23:3}. And we know from Luke 1:35-37 that John was 5 to 6 months older than Jesus. Luke 3:23: “Now Jesus Himself was as thirty years old when He began His ministry.”



So if Jesus began His ministry on His 30th human birthday {As per OT Law} on November 14th, AD 29 then John would have began his ministry 5 to 6 months earlier about May 14th to June 14th, AD 29 which would be in the 15th year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar since the 15th year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar was completed on August 19th AD 29 which was exactly 15 years after the death of Augustus Caesar on August 19th, AD 14. November 14th, AD 28 to April 5th, AD 32 doesn't work since John would have then began his ministry about May 14th to June 14th AD 28 which would have been in the 14th instead of the 15th year of Tiberius Caesar!!



The 30th birthday of Jesus was most likely on November 14th, AD 29 since He would have been baptized or Anointed 40 days earlier on October 5th, AD 29 and since the Resurrection Day of our Lord Jesus was exactly 3 1/2 years which is 1278 days after His Anointing on October 5th, AD 29; or on April 5th, AD 33; which completed the first half of the last 7 years which is 1278 days, of the 70 7's in Daniel 9:27a when the Anointed One gave us a New Covenant and put an end to all sacrifices for sin in the middle of the last 7 or 3 1/2 years which is exactly 1278 days after the anointing of the Anointed One.



Daniel 9:24: 70 7's have been decreed to anoint the most Holy One {After 69 7's or October 5th AD 29}} and to atone for wickedness {After 69 1/2 7's or 1278 days after the anointing of Jesus on April 5th AD 33. Then Jesus began His ministry 40 days after His Anointing on October 5th AD 29, which would have been on His 30th Birthday on November 14th, AD 29!



Daniel 9:27: He {The Anointed One} will confirm a Covenant for one seven. In the middle of the seven {After 3 1/2 years or 1278 days}He will put an end to all sacrifice and offering. {And after a long pause} He will set up an abomination of desolation {666} {For 3 1/2 years or 1278 days which was reduced to 1260 days} until the end that is decreed is poured out on him. {On the Last Day of the 70 7's as per Revelation 19:20 and 2 Thess 2:8}



If you go to the Internet under {timeanddate.com/calendar} you will be able to find the calendar for the month of April, AD 33 in Israel {Backspace and remove 2011 and type in 33 and scroll to Israel}. You will observe that April 2nd, AD 33 was on a Thursday and that April 5th, AD 33 was on a Sunday. So it is quite probable that Jesus held the Passover right after Sundown on April 2nd, AD 33; was crucified and became our **PASSOVER LAMB** on Friday, April 3rd, AD 33; and then was raised to life on Sunday, April 5th, AD 33. Then the 14th day of the first Bible month of ABIB or PASSOVER DAY is always from sundown, April 2nd to sundown, April 3rd and would have begun on the 14th day after the first day of spring which is always sundown March 20th to sundown March 21st {The first day of Spring and ABIB}.



The first day of ABIB is always from sundown, March 20th, AD 33 to sundown March 21st, AD 33 and then the 14th day of ABIB or **PASSOVER DAY** would have been from sundown, April 2nd, AD 33 to sundown, April 3rd, AD 33. Jesus was our Passover Lamb {I Cor 5:7} on Passover Day! And so our Lord’s Resurrection Day is always on the **16TH OF ABIB**; which is always on **APRIL 5TH** each and every year!!



Jesus was crucified on **PASSOVER DAY** on Friday, April 3rd, AD 33; and then was raised to life just after sunrise on Sunday, April 5th, AD 33. Then the 14th day of the first Bible month of ABIB or PASSOVER DAY would have begun on the 14th day after sundown March 20th to sundown, March 21st AD 33 {The first day of Spring}. If the first day of ABIB was from sundown, March 20th, AD 33 to sundown March 21st, AD 33 then the 14th day of ABIB or Passover Day would have been from sundown, April 2nd, AD 33 to sundown, April 3rd, AD 33.



Jesus was our **PASSOVER LAMB** {I Cor 5:7} on **PASSOVER DAY** which is always the **14TH OF ABIB** And so our Lord’s Resurrection Day is always on the **16TH OF ABIB**; which is always on **APRIL 5TH** each and every year!! And the Resurrection of Jesus has to be on the first day of the Bible week as per Luke 24:1 or on a Sunday. And **APRIL 5TH, AD 33** is also on a **SUNDAY** which only happens every **7** YEARS!!



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Posted : 27 Jul, 2019 08:20 PM

False prophets and teachers present the greatest threat to the church of Jesus Christ. External enemies who brazenly attack God’s people are easy to identify, and their threat is simpler to discern and resist. Internal enemies, however, are not dealt with so easily. Wolves can go about in sheep’s clothing for a long time before they are finally found out. False teachers, because they come in Christ’s name, elicit the trust of their students, and their corrupt doctrine weakens the faith of those who sit under their teaching.



Recognition of the threat of false teachers goes all the way back to the exodus generation, and Moses specifically warned the Israelites against those who would claim to be prophets while leading them to worship other gods. Deuteronomy 13:1–5 notes that the test of a true prophet is not his ability to perform signs and wonders; rather, true prophets are identified by their orthodoxy. In other words, no matter how convincing the signs and wonders of a professed prophet or teacher may be, that person must be rejected if he teaches heresy.



Moses’ principle remains true in every generation. It is true in ours, and it was true in the years leading up to the fall of Jerusalem in AD 70. Jesus warned that once the Romans invaded the city, many false teachers would implore them not to flee to the mountains. Instead, these preachers of error would try to deceive Christ’s disciples, calling them to follow after other people who professed to be the Messiah. Many of these false teachers, Jesus said, would “perform signs and wonders, to lead astray, if possible, the elect” (Mark 13:14–22).

Signs are unreliable indicators of a work of God! “Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?

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Posted : 29 Jul, 2019 05:00 PM

Ok I think I got something here. I was thinking about this really hard!

I had some GMO apples unbeknownst to me and although it is still considered food, it doesn't see corruption like real apples . At least in the usual time period. I remember having these apples on the counter for 3 months and finally after looking it over and seeing that it still looked about new , I decided to cut one open. I left it on the counter for a few hours. No oxidation. It did NOT turn brown like all non- modified apples. I don't think this was a coincidence that I ended up with GMO apples as I just remembered it and used it here. Now, if Jesus's blood was like that GMO apple and it was MODIFIED in some way since Mary knew no man and was a virgin and knowing that Jesus's body saw no corruption after death, then I do think there was something up with the blood. Only a sinless God-man could take away sin. He was fully God and fully man. The same way my apple is fully an apple and fully food. The way I look at it, his blood purifies us from sin and his death removes wrath from the Father on humanity because when we accept Jesus, his righteousness is imputed to the believer thus keeping us from God's wrath like when the ancient people put lamb's blood on the door posts to keep away the wrath of God. So, does his blood have power? or just symbolic? You decide.



Exodus 12:13 - And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye [are]: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy [you], when I smite the land of Egypt.



Leviticus 17:1

For it is the life of all flesh; the blood of it is for the life thereof: therefore I said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall eat the blood of no manner of flesh: for the life of all flesh is the blood thereof: whosoever eateth it shall be cut off.

Deuteronomy 12:27

And thou shalt offer thy burnt offerings, the flesh and the blood, upon the altar of the LORD thy God: and the blood of thy sacrifices shall be poured out upon the altar of the LORD thy God, and thou shalt eat the flesh.



Eternal life was in the blood of Jesus. Do I think he had power in his blood?

P.S. Eat cruciferous vegetables!!

Have you ever looked at the blood veins in a beet on the green tops? I love to saute them in garlic and kerrygold butter with salt and pepper/cayenne pepper. YUM!!! I found out that beets are good blood purifiers. Coincidence? Everything that he creates points to Him.

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Posted : 29 Jul, 2019 07:41 PM

PArrot,

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Daniel 9:27: He {The Anointed One} will confirm a Covenant for one seven. In the middle of the seven {After 3 1/2 years or 1278 days}He will put an end to all sacrifice and offering. {And after a long pause} He will set up an abomination of desolation {666} {For 3 1/2 years or 1278 days which was reduced to 1260 days} until the end that is decreed is poured out on him. {On the Last Day of the 70 7's as per Revelation 19:20 and 2 Thess 2:8}

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You just said it!!!

Messiah was cut off - dead and the ordinances of the law were nailed to the cross because it was MAN'S righteousness (law) and now it is Christ's righteousness.

Then the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD first century!

He shortened the days of the end times which happened in the first century!!

By George!, I think he has got it !

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