Author	Thread: Are there any REFORMED CESSATIONIST PRETERISTS Christians here?
DoYouWaterCamels View Profile History	Are there any REFORMED CESSATIONIST PRETERISTS Christians here? Posted : 27 Jun, 2012 10:43 PM It's one thing to notice how your pool of potential mates is limited to Christians. Then it's chopped off by a third when you become a cessationist. It's another thing when you become Reformed because it shrinks dramatically. It's even more drastically reduced when you become a Preterist. So are there any Reformed folk here? Cessationists? Preterists? All 3? Post Reply
View Profile History	Are there any REFORMED CESSATIONIST PRETERISTS Christians here? Posted : 29 Jun, 2012 06:25 PM Why do you get to ask question when you dodge every point made by others? Post Reply
View Profile History	Are there any REFORMED CESSATIONIST PRETERISTS Christians here? Posted : 29 Jun, 2012 06:25 PM "you make God the author of sin" yes, so what? what is the problem with that, logically or biblically? Post Reply
View Profile History	Are there any REFORMED CESSATIONIST PRETERISTS Christians here? Posted : 29 Jun, 2012 06:29 PM "@bob--answer this with a yes or no-does man have freewill? Can man make a choice about anything at all? " Questions like this only show that you lack sufficient understanding of your own terminology. So, here are your answers - You can figure out the rest. -does man have freewill? NO -Can man make a choice about anything at all? can you? Post Reply
View Profile History	Are there any REFORMED CESSATIONIST PRETERISTS Christians here? Posted : 29 Jun, 2012 06:33 PM what u claim is a god who forces people against their will -- If that were true, so what? Rom 9: 18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. 19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? 20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Post Reply
View Profile History	Are there any REFORMED CESSATIONIST PRETERISTS Christians here? Posted : 29 Jun, 2012 06:33 PM @holding-i havent dodged anything! U r the one dodging as you havent made any attempt to reply to my insisting you read verses in their surrounding context along with other verses on the same subject. U quote a verse and then ignore my reply-repeatedly. @bob-so God is the author of sin now? Really? Please show me the verses to support this explicitly. Personally, I find your statement blasphemous-but its the logical outcome of yr warped Calvinism. Post Reply
View Profile History	Are there any REFORMED CESSATIONIST PRETERISTS Christians here? Posted : 29 Jun, 2012 06:39 PM So no freewill means man is an automaton-a robot created by God who has already decreed most will go to hell because they have no choice whatsoever. Well, u may consider yrself a robot, but I am certainly not. My God gave me a conscience, an intellect and the ability to use those in response to Jesus words and actions-the ability to willingly choose him, not to be coerced, and to love Him for what He has done for me, not forced love which is no love at all. Post Reply
View Profile History	Are there any REFORMED CESSATIONIST PRETERISTS Christians here? Posted : 29 Jun, 2012 06:41 PM All one has to do is go back and read the thread to see who started telling who to read surrounding verses. I admit that you brought up surrounding verses as well. You just never even attempted to explain how they refuted anything I have said. Instead you would dodge and make up things about me being a universalist and then you wouldn't back that claim up either. You made the claim that "world" always means one thing. I showed you how that was not the case and you didn't respond. I showed that salvation is not of man's will and you did not refute that either. Stop revising the history of the thread. Post Reply
View Profile History	Are there any REFORMED CESSATIONIST PRETERISTS Christians here? Posted : 29 Jun, 2012 06:42 PM yeshaureigns - God is the author of all things - read the bible. There is only one author in this universe. I am the LORD , and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD , and there is none else. 7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. The question then becomes why do you reject that God is sovereign over all things? Prove explicitly that anyone other than God creates anything. Post Reply
View Profile History	Are there any REFORMED CESSATIONIST PRETERISTS Christians here? Posted : 29 Jun, 2012 06:47 PM Personally, I find all of your statements blasphemous-but its the logical outcome of the reprobate anthropocentric mind. You have already admitted to your own tension over God's sovereignty. That alone should tell you something. Post Reply
View Profile History	Are there any REFORMED CESSATIONIST PRETERISTS Christians here? Posted : 29 Jun, 2012 06:51 PM Yeshuareigns says: ""So no freewill means man is an automaton-a robot created by God who has already decreed most will go to hell because they have no choice whatsoever. Well, u may consider yrself a robot, but I am certainly not. My God gave me a conscience, an intellect and the ability to use those in response to Jesus words and actions-the ability to willingly choose him, not to be coerced, and to love Him for what He has done for me, not forced love which is no love at all. " That is YOUR god. But notice who the GOD of the Bible is: Rom 9:11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;) Rom 9:12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger. Rom 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. Rom 9:14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. Rom 9:15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. Rom 9:16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. Rom 9:17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. Rom 9:18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. Rom 9:19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? Rom 9:20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Rom 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? Rom 9:22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: Rom 9:23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, NOTICE: They are NOT the same. Post Reply

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