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Posted : 23 May, 2011 09:38 PM

Faith is the confident belief or trust in the truth or trustworthiness of a person, concept or thing, or a belief that is not based on proof.



How can we have faith if we repeatedly disobey the word of god?



I have heard people talking, about "once in grace always in grace" or so they put it and I really don't understand where this comes from!



Doesn't the Parable of the Prodigal Son give the perfect example of one who has lost faith in the lord?



That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ

Isn't the trail of our faith, the way we lead our life born again?



I believe a battle is raging everyday with the enemy. The choices we make build or faith.. And no matter how much faith we think we have everyone could stand for allot more building.

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Posted : 25 May, 2011 04:37 AM

George the answer is not in the concordance it is in the word of God and you trying to know God with your mind, and of course Jesus said you can not, one believes with the heart.

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Posted : 25 May, 2011 12:03 PM

@ Phil and Phil only:



Hey Phil;

I see that you really despise studying to know YHWH and His Word.



For within His Word He reveals who He is,and what He is likes.



The English word Heart is not as you suppose when understood by a Greek person.



Heart in Hebrew:leb



H3820

לב

lêb

BDB Definition:

1) inner man, mind, will, heart, understanding

1a) inner part, midst

1a1) midst (of things)

1a2) heart (of man)

1a3) soul, heart (of man)

1a4) mind, knowledge, thinking, reflection, memory

1a5) inclination, resolution, determination (of will)

1a6) conscience

1a7) heart (of moral character)

1a8) as seat of appetites

1a9) as seat of emotions and passions

1a10) as seat of courage

Part of Speech: noun masculine

A Related Word by BDB/Strong�s Number: a form of H3824

Same Word by TWOT Number: 1071a









Heart in Greek:Kardia



G2588

καρδία

kardia

Thayer Definition:

1) the heart

1a) that organ in the animal body which is the centre of the circulation of the blood, and hence was regarded as the seat of physical life

1b) denotes the centre of all physical and spiritual life

2a) the vigour and sense of physical life

2b) the centre and seat of spiritual life

2b1) the soul or mind, as it is the fountain and seat of the thoughts, passions, desires, appetites, affections, purposes, endeavours

2b2) of the understanding, the faculty and seat of the intelligence

2b3) of the will and character

2b4) of the soul so far as it is affected and stirred in a bad way or good, or of the soul as the seat of the sensibilities, affections, emotions, desires, appetites, passions

1c) of the middle or central or inmost part of anything, even though inanimate

Part of Speech: noun feminine

A Related Word by Thayer�s/Strong�s Number: prolonged from a primary kar (Latin, cor, �heart�)

Citing in TDNT: 3:605, 415





Here is the Greek word for the English 'understanding'.



G4907

σύνεσις

sunesis

Thayer Definition:

1) a running together, a flowing together with

2) knowledge

2a) understanding

2b) the understanding, i.e the mind so far forth as it understands

Part of Speech: noun feminine

A Related Word by Thayer�s/Strong�s Number: from G4920

Citing in TDNT: 7:888, 1119





G4920

συνίημι

suniēmi

Thayer Definition:

1) to set or bring together

1a) in a hostile sense, of combatants

2) to put (as it were) the perception with the thing perceived

2a) to set or join together in the mind

2a1) i.e. to understand: the man of understanding

2a2) idiom for: a good and upright man (having the knowledge of those things which pertain to salvation)

Part of Speech: verb

A Related Word by Thayer�s/Strong�s Number: from G4862 and hiemi (to send)

Citing in TDNT: 7:888, 1119





Now Phil this Scripture pertaining to ones mind might hurt your mind.



Mar 12:33 "and to love Him from all the heart", and from all the understanding, "and from all the soul, and from all the strength;" Deut. 6:4, 5 and "to love one's neighbor as oneself" Lev. 19:18 is more than all the burnt offerings and the sacrifices.

Mar 12:34 And seeing that he answered intelligently, Jesus said to him, You are not far from the kingdom of God. And no one dared to question Him any more.





Please do everyone on this siet a favor;

Get yourself a Strongs concordance and look up the word 'Mind,and Understanding' and when you have some understanding on this matter then you can talk with authority.

Until then,please be quiet on the matters concerning the 'Heart,Mind,and Understanding'.

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Posted : 25 May, 2011 12:10 PM

George, I don't listen to the devil and him trying to tell me what to do.

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