BUT WAIT!... THERE IS A WAY OUT OF ETERNAL DEATH IN HELL... REPENTANCE OF YOUR SINS! Which is a truning away from your sins with A broken heart, and a broken and contire spirit before a Holy God. Psalm 51...
I didn't say anything about David being in hell...I just said he wasn't in heaven YET. Of course he's going to be in heaven, he was a man after God's own heart. And I have read my bible. It must be me that's misinterpreting it though, huh? lol...ok. And all those questions have to do with the judgment and what happens to the soul after death. I don't understand where the confusion is coming from. They're pretty simple questions...there's not even that many of them. I would just like to hear an explanation what you think those verses mean. I'm honestly curious.
The scripture tells us to be absence from the body is to be presence with the Lord....
Ok, wow!...thought I was having a senior moment.:ROFL: got confused in what you were trying to say. Although, I think you're more confused than I am:excited::yay:
So what you're asking of me is to explain my views on these scriptures you've psoted?
Therefore, I will have to go back , since we don't HAVE QUOTE ON OUR BOARD:devil:.... and I will read them over and lets see what hapens.
Also, Romans chapter 2, lets us know much about God's judgment and let's us know that He will render to every person according to thier deeds, the good and the bad, because our deeds determines what's in our hearts. Rememebr Jesus also tells us that whatsoever is in a person' heart, it is expressed in their behavior and conduct, what they say, what they do. its what comes out of a person that defiles them, and tells about their character, because out of the heart that a person speaks and acts.
Romans chapter 2, reveals God's judgment against the good, the bad, the ugly, and the indifferent.
Mark, I just read through all those scriptures you have posted. You have too many scriptures referencing to many things, but not this topic.
So I will cut to the chase, from what I see in reading your post, you are trying to prove your point about your views and beliefs, and it ain't working with those scriptures you've posted.
Plus, I ain't taking the time to comment on all those scriptures because you have not come to a clear understadning of I Corinthians chapter 15 to discuss it. Nor have you made mention of 2 Corinthians chapters 4-5 , if you have read these chapters, you will understand immorality, and that there is no way we will get into heaven in our physical bodies, as I've said over and over again.
If you're having problems understanding these chpater, then if you release your pride or whtever is hinderign you from coming into a clear understanding, then I will discus these with you and explain as best as I can what these chapters mean or post a commentary for you that will heklp you mcuh better than I can explain.
What in the world does 2 Peter chapter 2:verse 9, have to do with immorality or the penalty of death? Or the penalty of sin? I Timothy is speaking about Jesus being the only one having immorlaity at this time... this is why I say you are not reading, becausee these scriptures you have posted have nothing to do with what you think you're trying to prove. Ecclesiastes chapter 9:verse 5-10, is about what Mark?...
C'mon, Mark.... read, and I will discuss with you, picking out scriptures throughout the Bible from a concordance with a word in the passage that you THINK fits into the topic of discussion ain't happening!...
Do your homework READ those chpaters I've given out, and then come back and I will discuss with you those things you don't understand...:peace:
Y'all giving me a headache... GB, bring me a drink:toomuch::Mug::excited::party:
Well, I pretty sure that "absent from the body" means that we have to deny our sinful flesh to be godly. The bible says Jesus brings His reward with Him when He comes again, so that pretty much cancels out the idea that we receive our reward when we die. And Jesus died and didn't ascend to heaven until after he was resurrected. He rested in the grave after the work of recreation, just like He rested after the work of creation...just like David is resting in the grave, waiting for the return of Christ...which is exactly what the bible says. The dead know nothing, they are laid to rest in the grave until the second coming.
John 14:1-3 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
Explanation as to what I believe this verse means to avoid confusion: We do not go to the place Jesus has prepared for us until He comes again, i.e. the second coming, i.e. no heaven as soon as you die.
Mark in Acts 2:34 the author is quoting david in the psalms, Jesus was not yet seated at the right hand of the father and had not made it possible yet for man to come to heaven as they where waiting just as Abraham was.
1 Corinthians 15:12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
13But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
14And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
15Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
16For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
17And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
18Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
19If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.
20But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
21For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
