Thread: **WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY ABOUT THE PREACHING OF MEN AND WOMEN IN THE CHURCH**??
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**WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY ABOUT THE PREACHING OF MEN AND WOMEN IN THE CHURCH**??
Posted : 9 Dec, 2019 03:41 PM
** WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY ABOUT THE PREACHING AND TEACHING OF MEN AND WOMEN IN THE CHURCH**??
Titus 1:6-9: An **ELDER** must be blameless, faithful to **HIS** wife, a **MAN** whose children believe... Since an **OVERSEER** manages God's household, **HE** must be blameless... **HE** must **HOLD FIRMLY** to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that **HE** can encourage others by **SOUND DOCTRINE and **REFUTE THOSE** WHO OPPOSE IT**.
I Timothy 5:17: The **ELDERS** who direct rhe affairs of the church well are worthy of a double honor, especially those whose work is **PREACHING ** and **TEACHING**!
I Timothy 3:1 Whoever desires to be an **OVERSEER** desires a noble task. Now the **OVERSEER**is to be above reproach, faithful to **HIS** wife, tenperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable and **ABLE TO TEACH**!!
I Timothy 2:11: A **WOMAN** should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a **WOMEN** **TO TEACH** or to assume authority **OVER A MAN**; she must be **SILENT**. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one who was deceived and became a sinner!
This command in God's Word would also hold true for Christian Forums that a woman may not **TEACH** or have **AUTHORITY** over a man.
In a Christian Forum a woman can quote God's Word or give her testimony. But she is contradicting God's Word if she teaches Scripture when men are present or evaluates and condemns men's Bible studies in a Christian Forum.
I Corinthians 15:34,35:**WOMEN** should remain silent in the churches, They are not allowed **TO SPEAK**, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they want to inquire about anything, they should ask their husbands at home; for it is **DISGRACEFUL** for a **WOMAN** **TO SPEAK IN THE CHURCH**!!
2 Peter 3:15,16: Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our **DEAR BROTHER PAUL** also wrote you with the **WISDOM GOD GAVE TO HIM**. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand {To unbelievers} which **IGNORANT AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE DISTORT**, as they do other Scriptures, to their own **DESTRUCTION**!
I Timothy 3:16,17: All Scripture is **GOD-BREATHEED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead and in view of His appearing and His Kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD**; be prepared in season in out of season, correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear!!
I Peter 1:23-25: For you have been **BORN AGAIN**, not of perishable seed but the imperishable, through the living and enduring **WORD OF GOD**. For all people are like grass, and all their glory is like flowers in the field; the grass withers and the flowers fail, but the **WORD OF THE LORD ENDURES FOREVER**!!
**WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY ABOUT THE PREACHING OF MEN AND WOMEN IN THE CHURCH**??
Posted : 12 Dec, 2019 12:35 PM
There were 613 commandments in the OT and about 400 commandments in the New and better Covenant of faith and love. None of the 613 commandments in the OT were commandments were commandments of Moses but were all 613 commandments of God alone. And all of the 400 commandments of the 8 writers of the 27 books in the New and better Covenant are commandments of God alone. Only God has the **AUTHORITY** to make spiritual commandments. And only God inspires human writers to write His commandments that He has chosen for any particular dispensation.
Messianic Jews like Sadlup Hark and Chuckles all claim that Jesus made very few if any changes to the OT laws and that all of Paul's 14 books are not inspired or commandments of God and the Scripture in Acts 9:15 and Acts 2616-18 and 2 Peter 3 :15,16 below are also not inspired by God.
Sadlup, Hark and Chuckles all believe that you can only be saved doing good works and by obeying OT commands which is exactly what Satan wants you to believe. At least Sadlup and Hark deceptively quoted out of context NT Scripture.
NOTE: Chuckles does not believe the following Scriptures by Luke who was inspired to write Luke and Acts are inspired by God??? Chuckles also does not believe God's word in 2 Peter 3:15,16 below was inspired by God. And so chuckles strongly implies the writings of Luke and Peter are also not inspired by God.
Acts 9:15: The Lord said to Ananias, "This man{Paul} is My **CHOSEN INSTRUMENT**to proclaim My name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel.
Acts 26:16-18: The Lord said to Paul, " I have appeared to you to appoint you as a servant and as a witness of **WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN AND WILL SEE OF ME! I will rescue from your own people and from the Gentiles. I am sending you to them to open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in Me!"
2 Peter 3:15,16: Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our **DEAR BROTHER PAUL ALSO WROTE WITH THE WISDOM THAT GOD GAVE HIM**! He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand {For the Lost}. which IGNORANT AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE DISTORT {Like chuckles}, as they do other Scriptures to **THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION**!
Actually the question is not as you say that Paul has the authority to add new commandments but whether Paul was inspired by God to write new commands in his 14 books which is over half of the New Testament of God's inspired words.
John 16:12,13: Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into all the Truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will glorify Me because it is from Me that he will receive what he will make known to you!"
And holy spirit inspired the 8 writers of the 27 books of the New Testament to write everything Jesus told him to write which includes all of the 14 books of Paul.
THE GREAT COMMISSION: Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, “All authority in heaven and on ***EARTH*** has been given to Me {Not some RC Pope}. Therefore go and make disciples of *ALL NATIONS*...teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING** {The entire NT inspired by Jesus} I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very *END OF THE AGE*!”
**WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY ABOUT THE PREACHING OF MEN AND WOMEN IN THE CHURCH**??
Posted : 12 Dec, 2019 06:50 PM
Chuckles: it is very easy to understand that God inspired Moses to write the first 5 books of the OT just as God inspired Paul to write 14 books in the New and better Covenant.
2 Peter 1:20-21: Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of scripture came about by the prophets own interpretation of things. For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, **SPOKE FROM GOD** as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit!!
Chuckles: We have severe disagreements on this forum but we all agree that the 14 books by Paul in the New Testament are all inspired by God and have **ZERO ERRORS** and all of Paul's commandments are also commandments of God. and all apply to the present day.
NOTE: Chuckles does not believe the following Scriptures by Luke who was inspired to write Luke and Acts which were inspired by God??? Chuckles also does not believe God's word in 2 Peter 3:15,16 below was inspired by God. And so chuckles strongly implies the writings of Luke and Peter are also not inspired by God.
Acts 9:15: The Lord said to Ananias, "This man{Paul} is My **CHOSEN INSTRUMENT**to proclaim My name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel.
Acts 26:16-18: The Lord said to Paul, " I have appeared to you to appoint you as a servant and as a witness of **WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN AND WILL SEE OF ME! I will rescue from your own people and from the Gentiles. I am sending you to them to open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in Me!"
2 Peter 3:15,16: Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our **DEAR BROTHER PAUL ALSO WROTE WITH THE WISDOM THAT GOD GAVE HIM**! He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand {For the Lost}. which IGNORANT AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE DISTORT, as they do other Scriptures to **THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION**!
Actually the question is not as you say that Paul has the authority to add new commandments but whether Paul was inspired by God to write new commands in his 14 books which is over half of the New Testament of God's inspired words.
John 16:12,13: Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into all the Truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will glorify Me because it is from Me that he will receive what he will make known to you!"
And holy spirit inspired the 8 writers of the 27 books of the New Testament to write everything Jesus told him to write which includes all of the 14 books of Paul.
THE GREAT COMMISSION: Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, “All authority in heaven and on ***EARTH*** has been given to Me {Not some RC Pope}. Therefore go and make disciples of *ALL NATIONS*...teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING** {The entire NT inspired by Jesus} I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very *END OF THE AGE*!”
**WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY ABOUT THE PREACHING OF MEN AND WOMEN IN THE CHURCH**??
Posted : 12 Dec, 2019 08:04 PM
Prophetic,
I've answered your accusations of satanic statements on the "What is the Bible" thread where you first state this. I'm not going to go around answering the same thing over and over just because you copy and paste it to every thread
**WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY ABOUT THE PREACHING OF MEN AND WOMEN IN THE CHURCH**??
Posted : 12 Dec, 2019 08:57 PM
Satanic **LIE** by chuckles:Satanic **LIE** by chuckles:
"Paul was called before the Council of Jerusalem for his reported **MISCONDUCT**."????
chuckles: You should be very careful about knowingly lying about God's word which may be an unpardonable
sin!
chuckles then claimed that this **MISCONDUCT BY PAUL* was found in Acts 15:22-27:
Acts 15:22-27: Then the apostles and elders with the whole church, decided to choose some of their own men and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They chose Judas called Barsabbas and Silas, men who were leaders among the believers. With them they sent the following letter: The apostles and elders, your brothers. To the Gentile believers in Antioch, Syria and Cilicia: Greetings: We have heard that some went out from us **WITHOUT OUR AUTHORIZATION** and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said. So we all agreed to chose some men and send them to you with our **DEAR FRIENDS BARNABAS AND PAUL**--men who have **RISKED THEIR LIVES** for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing.
However anyone can clearly see there was no **MISCONDUCT BY PAUL** as you claimed in the above Scripture!!
**WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY ABOUT THE PREACHING OF MEN AND WOMEN IN THE CHURCH**??
Posted : 13 Dec, 2019 06:04 AM
chuckles claims that Moses had authority to make God's commandments. Whereas Paul did not have this authority. However God's Word states that **NEITHER MOSES OR PAUL HAS THIS AUTHORITY**
2 Peter 1:20,21: Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about the prophets own interpretation of things. For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though *HUMAN* {Like Moses and Paul} spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit!
Acts 9:15: The Lord said to Ananias, "This man{Paul} is My **CHOSEN INSTRUMENT**to proclaim My name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel.
Acts 26:16-18: The Lord said to Paul, " I have appeared to you to appoint you as a servant and **AS A WITNESS OF **WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN AND WILL SEE OF ME! I will rescue from your own people and from the Gentiles. I am sending you to them to open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in Me!"
2 Peter 3:15,16: Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our **DEAR BROTHER PAUL ALSO WROTE WITH THE WISDOM THAT GOD GAVE HIM**! He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand {For the Lost}. which IGNORANT AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE DISTORT {Like chuckles}, as they do other Scriptures to **THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION**!
**WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY ABOUT THE PREACHING OF MEN AND WOMEN IN THE CHURCH**??
Posted : 13 Dec, 2019 08:05 AM
Posted : 13 Dec, 2019 07:48 AM
Anyone who opposes Paul is logically opposed to Moses and Jesus.
Paul nowhere contradicts either Jesus or Moses or any other part of God’s entire word.
People who oppose Paul do so with the exact identical sinful attitude as those who opposed Moses.
People who oppose Paul do so with the exact identical sinful attitude as those who opposed Jesus.
NOTE: please note from scripture.
Those who opposed Jesus are said to have decorated and “honored” the tombs of the prophets. They even claimed they would have the prophets if they were alive then. They even boost about how they “honored” Moses.
Is it any wonder that those who oppose Paul would now suddenly feign respect for Jesus and Moses??
But see what Jesus says:
CAUTION: JESUS USES LANGUAGE NOT CONSIDERED ACCEPTABLE TO SOME SINNERS
Matthew23
29Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the monuments of the righteous. 30And you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partners with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ 31So you testify against yourselves that you are the sons of those who murdered the prophets. 32Fill up, then, the measure of the sin of your fathers. 33You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape the sentence of hell?
Jesus says in
John 5:46
If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me.
Jesus also says about Paul
Acts 9
15“Go!” said the Lord. “This man is My chosen instrument to carry My name before the Gentiles and their kings, and before the people of Israel. 16I will show him how much he must suffer for My name.
WE EITHER BELIEVE JESUS OR WE DONT. There’s no middle ground
But we have not right to pretend we respect either Jesus or Moses when we refuse to believe them
**WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY ABOUT THE PREACHING OF MEN AND WOMEN IN THE CHURCH**??
Posted : 13 Dec, 2019 10:11 AM
chuckles: We are fairly tired of your flooding our posts with your hate of Paul's inspired writings. Why not go to a Jewish Forum where everyone will love your Jewish beliefs??
**THE ONLY THING THAT COUNTS IS **FAITH** EXPRESSING ITSELF THROUGH LOVE**!!{Galatians 5:6}
Acts 26:17,18: Jesus said to Paul, "I am sending you to the Gentiles to open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are **SANCTIFIED BY FAITH**!"
Romans 1:17: For in the Gospel the righteousness of God is revealed--a righteousness that is **BY FAITH FROM FIRST TO LAST**!!
Romans 3:23-25: For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of His blood--to be received **BY FAITH**!!
Romans 3:27,28: Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. Because of what law? The law that requires works? **NO**, because of the law that **REQUIRES FAITH**! For we maintain that a person is **JUSTIFIED BY FAITH** apart from the works of the law!!
Romans 5:1,2: Therefore, since we have been **JUSTIFIED THOUGH FAITH**, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have gained access **BY FAITH** into this grace in which we now stand!!
Romans 10:5-9: Moses writes about the righteousness that is by the law: "The person who does these things will live by them." {Lev 18:5} But the righteousness that comes **BY FAITH** says...The word is near you: it is in your mouth and in your heart, that is, the message concerning **FAITH** that we proclaim: IF you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your **FAITH** and are saved!!
Romans 12:3: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the **FAITH** God has distributed to each of you!!
Romans 14:23: Everything that does not come **FROM FAITH** is sin!!
2 Corinthians 1:24: We work with you for your joy, because it is **BY FAITH** you stand firm!!
2 Corinthians 5:6-10: We are always confident and know that as long as we are at home with the body we are away from the Lord. For we live **BY FAITH**, not by sight. We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord. So we make it our goal to please Him... For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad!!
Galatians 2:16: We know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but **BY FAITH** in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our **FAITH** in Christ Jesus that we may be **JUSTIFIED BY FAITH** in Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law **NO ONE WILL BE JUSTIFIED**!!
Galatians 3:23-26: Before the coming of this **FAITH**, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the **FAITH** that was to come would be revealed. So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be **JUSTIFIED BY FAITH**. Now that this **FAITH** has come we are **NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVION OF THE LAW**. So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God **THROUGH FAITH**!!
Galatians 5:5,6: For through the Spirit we eagerly await **BY FAITH** the righteousness for which we hope. For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is **FAITH** expressing itself through **LOVE**!!
Ephesians 2:8-10: For it is by grace you have been saved, **THROUGH FAITH**--and this is not from yourselves, it is the **GIFT** of God, not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are **GOD'S HANDIWORK**, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do!!
Ephesians 3:16,17: I pray that out of His glorious riches He may strengthen you with power through His Spirit in your inner being, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts **THROUGH FAITH**!!
I Thessalonians 1:3: We remember before our God and Father you work produced **BY FAITH**!!
2 Thessalonians 1:3,4: We ought always to thank God for you, brothers and sisters, and rightly so, because your **FAITH** is growing **MORE AND MORE**....Therefore, among God's churches we boast about your perseverance and **FAITH** in all the persecutions and trials you are enduring!!
2 Thessalonians 1:11: We constantly pray for you, that our God may make you worthy of His calling, and that by His power He may bring to fruition your every desire for goodness and your every deed **PROMPTED BY FAITH**!!
I Timothy 1:3,4: Command certain people not to teach false doctrines any longer... Such things promote controversial speculations rather than advancing God's work--which is **BY FAITH**!!
2 Timothy 3:14,15: Continue in what you have learned and become convinced of...and how from infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation **THROUGH FAITH** in Christ Jesus!!
Hebrews 11:1,3,6: So **FAITH** is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see...**BY FAITH** we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, in that what is seen was not made out of what was visible... Without **FAITH** it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to Him must believe that He exists and that He **REWARDS** those who earnestly seek Him!!
Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, “The Son of Man is going to come in His Father's glory with His angels and **THEN** He will **REWARD** each person according to what he has done!”
Hebrews 12:1,2: Let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Pioneer and Perfecter of our **FAITH**!!
**WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY ABOUT THE PREACHING OF MEN AND WOMEN IN THE CHURCH**??
Posted : 13 Dec, 2019 10:51 AM
Oh my, you posted 3 times in 3 threads! Lol!
Prophetic, you write:
"We are fairly tired of your flooding our posts......."
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Accusations from 'Prophetic' of someone else "flooding posts" is downright hilarious 😂
Thanks for the laugh! (X3)
Oh, but it gets even more humorous!.........
Now Lil David who repeatedly accuses me of having a "inner Prophetic" is now copying and pasting his same posts in multiple threads just like 'Prophetic'.
Just wanted to say; Thanks for the laughs gentlemen! 🙄
