Author	Thread: Did Jesus reject Moses' reasons for divorce in Matthew 19?
God_is_my_Father View Profile History	Did Jesus reject Moses' reasons for divorce in Matthew 19? Posted : 6 Dec, 2015 05:32 PM Did Jesus Christ reject the practices of Moses related to allowing divorce; and say there is only one legitimate reason which allows a person to obtain a divorce, marry another, and not commit adultery? a) yes b) no Matthew 19:3-8 "The Pharisees also came to Him, testing Him, and saying to Him, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for just any reason?" And He answered and said to them, "Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning 'made them male and female,' and said, 'For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh'? So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate." They said to Him, "Why then did Moses command to give her a certificate of divorce, and to put her away?" He said to them, "Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so." Post Reply
God_is_my_Father View Profile History	Did Jesus reject Moses' reasons for divorce in Matthew 19? Posted : 13 Dec, 2015 10:40 AM "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon His shoulder: and His name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of His government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon His kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of Hosts shall perform this." Isaiah 9:6-7 What mere human child which was born, has the divine right to be called the Everlasting Father, and rule forever? While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, saying, "What do you think about the Christ? Whose Son is He?" They said to Him, "The Son of David." He said to them. "How then does David in the Spirit call Him 'Lord', saying: 'The Lord said to my Lord, "Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool"'? If David then calls Him 'Lord', how is He his Son?" And no one was able to answer Him a word, nor from that day on did anyone dare to question Him anymore." Matthew 22:41-45 Post Reply
Hark View Profile History	Did Jesus reject Moses' reasons for divorce in Matthew 19? Posted : 13 Dec, 2015 12:23 PM You're going with yet another mistranslation. the word is abiod, which correctly translates father of future. Just as Abraham is the father of faith; Yahshua is the father of future. A pagan might be the father of demon spawn, who blaspheme the only true God; but that doesn't make him the Father Almighty. Post Reply
God_is_my_Father View Profile History	Did Jesus reject Moses' reasons for divorce in Matthew 19? Posted : 14 Dec, 2015 12:39 PM Perhaps you could show us (tell us) where to find the authoritative text to which you refer? Not the individual passages, but the entire text of scripture? Post Reply
Hark View Profile History	Did Jesus reject Moses' reasons for divorce in Matthew 19? Posted : 14 Dec, 2015 01:06 PM I use a variety of sources and tools. Are you disputing the definition of Strong's H5703? I'd like to review your source. Post Reply
CarlAHartwell View Profile History	Did Jesus reject Moses' reasons for divorce in Matthew 19? Posted : 16 Dec, 2015 05:50 PM Wow, To the opening post in the thread...lol... I also think, yes It's quite clear that our Lord was putting aside the teaching of Moses and giving us only one reason for divorce, that is sexual imorality, there are other certain nuances of the scripture in Mt 5:32 and 19:9 which I still need clarification from the Holy Spirit about, but the that is for another discussion...much like the majority of this thread... John 1:1c And the Word was God John 1:14a And the Word was made flesh End of discussion as far as I'm concerned! I'm grateful that Jesus, the Alpha and the Omega, Emanuel 'God is with us', gave us the assurance that the tares would be purged from among the wheat in the judgement. But I pray he carries on doing it while we are still in the world so that we may be as pure a Bride as we can when the Bride Groom arrives! Amen. Post Reply
Hark View Profile History	Did Jesus reject Moses' reasons for divorce in Matthew 19? Posted : 16 Dec, 2015 10:39 PM You use a Hellenized mistranslation, and proclaim that is the end of discussion? Then I guess you won't be able to comment on the difference (yes there is a difference) between "theos" and "ton theon," in John 1:1 Surely I can understand why you would not want to discuss why your Hellenized mistranslation blotted out " and Booths (tabernacles) in us" from John 1:14. Deut.4:35 35 You were shown these things so that you might know that YHWH is God; besides him there is no other. Post Reply
Hark View Profile History	Did Jesus reject Moses' reasons for divorce in Matthew 19? Posted : 16 Dec, 2015 10:42 PM You use a Hellenized mistranslation, and proclaim that is the end of discussion? Then I guess you won't be able to comment on the difference (yes there is a difference) between "theos" and "ton theon," in John 1:1 Surely I can understand why you would not want to discuss why your Hellenized mistranslation blotted out " and Booths (tabernacles) in us" from John 1:14. Deut.4:35 35 You were shown these things so that you might know that YHWH is God; besides him there is no other. Post Reply
View Profile History	Did Jesus reject Moses' reasons for divorce in Matthew 19? Posted : 17 Dec, 2015 11:36 AM Theos ?...In John 1:14 "word" is logos G3056 a living voice from G3004 lego to say to speak not Theos...Anywho...thats not the point...Im wondering what all this aggressive and argumentative pooh has to do with the OP topic of divorce. How about we get back to the OP...I have a question... When a person is being abused...verbal...physical...emotional...is this Biblical grounds for divorce and if not...is it forgivable ??? Thanks in advance for the input xo Post Reply
Hark View Profile History	Did Jesus reject Moses' reasons for divorce in Matthew 19? Posted : 17 Dec, 2015 03:23 PM Like I said. Booths or tabernacles in John 1:14. Theos in John 1:1. Post Reply
View Profile History	Did Jesus reject Moses' reasons for divorce in Matthew 19? Posted : 17 Dec, 2015 04:42 PM Like I said. Booths or tabernacles in John 1:14. Theos in John 1:1. ??? Booths or tabernacles in John 1:14. �And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.� http://biblehub.com/text/john/1-14.htm *** I don�t read �booths� or �tabernacles� Theos in John 1:1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. http://biblehub.com/greek/theon_2316.htm *** ??? Theon�Theos�both are G2316�GOD�Maybe he has some special �Translation� that is not Helenized he�d like to share with all of us�if not�can we please get back to the OP ???... xo Post Reply

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