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Posted : 23 May, 2011 09:38 PM

Faith is the confident belief or trust in the truth or trustworthiness of a person, concept or thing, or a belief that is not based on proof.



How can we have faith if we repeatedly disobey the word of god?



I have heard people talking, about "once in grace always in grace" or so they put it and I really don't understand where this comes from!



Doesn't the Parable of the Prodigal Son give the perfect example of one who has lost faith in the lord?



That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ

Isn't the trail of our faith, the way we lead our life born again?



I believe a battle is raging everyday with the enemy. The choices we make build or faith.. And no matter how much faith we think we have everyone could stand for allot more building.

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Posted : 24 May, 2011 02:17 PM

exactly phillip!

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Posted : 24 May, 2011 02:47 PM

Hey Phil:

I believe you copid this Scripture.











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Posted : 24 May, 2011 01:34 PM





It is not a matter of Jesus dying again Georg it is a matter of what Jesus said on the topic and man's responsibility to his covenant.







1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.





Again you are not able to understand this Scripture.



Please do everyone here a favor and use this site to look at the Scripture according to the languages it has been 'TRANSLATED'from.



biblos.com



If you read this in the Greek you might change your tune.

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Posted : 24 May, 2011 03:28 PM

George, truth is truth, I realize you believe you are the answer but when man is saved he then has the spirit of truth also.

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Posted : 24 May, 2011 03:28 PM

George, truth is truth, I realize you believe you are the answer but when man is saved he then has the spirit of truth also.

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Posted : 24 May, 2011 05:24 PM

POIC,

"Faith builds Faith"

I did not think you so obtuse as to misunderstand such a simple statement. Therefore allow me to expound it for you. Exercising Faith builds more Faith, just as exercising muscle builds more muscle. Had you understood that unexercised Faith is no Faith at all; you may not of got lost in a three word statement.

Sincerely Yours

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Posted : 24 May, 2011 10:34 PM

Fisherman hi,



I like what you said:



That is what I am saying, YOU can fall away from the LORD and if you do not repent.. YOU WILL die as a sinner...



Brothers, do not forget also these words in Matthew 7:21-23:



I Never Knew You

Jesus said:



21 �Not everyone who says to Me, �Lord, Lord,� shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, �Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?� 23 And then I will declare to them, �I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!�



Brothers, who can prophetize and cast out demons and do wonders int he name of Jesus? Christians! They will NOT get to the Kingdom of Heaven during the Judgement Day says God Jesus.

Why? They did not do what God says. They disobey God. They practice sins/cromes/lawlessness.

They are those who are fake christians who live in their sins!

Those who live with God, do not sin says the Holy Scripture.

That's the different between goats and sheeps!





Bahira

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Posted : 24 May, 2011 11:01 PM

Let me add: why the criterion for judgement of christians will be their deeds as the Revelation (last 3 chapters say)?



"nd they were judged, each one according to his works. "





Because: faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead. James 2:17



If you are DEAD spiritually, you do not have faith in action it means you were not born of God. It means you were not a christian and your name was not written int he Book of Life. It means you SHOULD be born of God NOW!!!! Repent and abandon your sins though FAITH in God Jesus!



The Great White Throne Judgment



11 Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. 14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

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Posted : 24 May, 2011 11:46 PM

God Jesus said that some of us need the clothes of righteousness and start doing what God says:



Who are these people wo whom God Jesus addresses here? Christians. Churches.



�I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot. So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth. Because you say, �I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of nothing��and do not know that you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked� I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire, that you may be rich; and white garments, that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see.

(The Book of Revelation 3:15-18).





The fact that there is going to be a final judgment for all men, both believers and unbelievers, is clearly confirmed in many passages of Scripture. Every person will one day stand before Christ and be judged for his or her deeds. God will �give to each person according to what he has done� (Romans 2:6).



Look also: You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat. Romans 14:10

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Posted : 25 May, 2011 12:02 AM

Bahira, that's a good word for such a time as this...:dancingp:

2sparrow should consider it for his first sermon:ROFL:...

The Right Rev. Dr.2sparrow, Presiding CDFF Bishop:Mug: drinks on the house:excited:

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Posted : 25 May, 2011 12:15 AM

@fisher:



Let us look at Hebrews 6:4-6







Heb 6:4 For it is impossible for those once having been enlightened, and having tasted of the heavenly gift, and becoming sharers of the Holy Spirit,

Heb 6:5 and tasting the good Word of God, and the works of power of a coming age,

Heb 6:6 and having fallen away, it is impossible for them again to renew to repentance, crucifying again for themselves the Son of God, and putting Him to open shame.



Verse 4,Can we say the word 'Impossible'.



If a person that is a believer in Yeshua could fall away;

then there is no hope for that person.



Verse 6;

If a person were to fall away from Christ ,he/she would need someone else o save them.



Christ died ONCE for the atonement of man.

since there is no other Messiah,a perso, would be doomed to being under jdgement for all eternity.



These are the words of the Son of GOD.



oh 10:29 My Father who has given them to Me is greater than all, and no one is able to pluck out of My Father's hand.



The Greek word for the English word pluck is:Harpadzo

This is the same word the Church uses when discussing 'The Rapture'

G726

ἁρπάζω

harpazō

Thayer Definition:

1) to seize, carry off by force

2) to seize on, claim for one�s self eagerly

3) to snatch out or away

Part of Speech: verb

A Related Word by Thayer�s/Strong�s Number: from a derivative of G138

Citing in TDNT: 1:472, 80



Do you see,No Man is able to

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