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Admin	* The Obvious Truth that Only a Honest Calvinist would Admit * Posted : 5 Apr, 2011 04:35 PM Curious? What is the obvious truth that most Calvinists will not admit? Even though it is blatantly obvious. Although you may find a honest Calvinist who will admit this truth. They are rare, for once they reach this level of honesty, they become a endangered species. Do you think James or Ryan could be such men? Shall we find out? Here is the obvious truth that only a indoctrinated Calvinist cannot see : *Calvinism is a commentary on the Gospel* The ramifications of this simple truth should be self apparent. Post Reply
View Profile History	* The Obvious Truth that Only a Honest Calvinist would Admit * Posted : 7 Apr, 2011 08:40 AM Twosparrows - Please provide support for your claim, if I consider it valid I will retract the supposed statement of attack and apologize. However in the mean time I view your post with suspicion as nothing more than further deflection. Ryan - examples of yours and others deflections "You fail to realize the importance of this if you call it silly and irrelevant, and this is where your integrity comes in. ?" "You do not need to be on an island Ryan for Satan to speak to you, when you speak of the tulip that is exactly what it is doctrine of demons" "If either of you have a shred of integrity, you would admit it is highly unlikely a person on a deserted Island with only a Bible would come up with Tulip all on their own. " Has nothing to do with integrity, but you make us out to be liars if we don't agree with you. "What I said is if you agree with the tulip, you are outside of the word of God, so one has to judge it as of the devil, there is no Jesus in it. It is impossible for Jesus to lie! " Not dealing with an actual point, just making a point to say I call Jesus a liar. maybe a few scriptures with that? "PJ, that is the point, the falseness shouldn't have to be proved, the 'trueness' needs to be proved. For a commentary is just mans interpretation of Scripture. It is Not Scripture, therefore not necessarily true. " The hypocrisy of saying Calvinism is a commentary and Arminianism isn't. "Of course we get pulled into this drama and forget it is only a commentary on the Gospel, a interpretation of man. How often have you asked for a scripture to back up their claim and instead you get a scripture followed by "what it means according to them". Have you noticed they have no Scripture plainly stating what they proclaim as true as Scripture. " The hypocrisy of this as well. Several scriptures have been given. PJ actually sometimes uses scripture verses. You rarely do. You just come be with what you believe, so how can you criticize? The hypocrisy of you saying we follow the interpretation of man as if you don't ever "interpret" scripture. You are just a man. "There is a big difference between reading and studying the Bible asking the Holy Spirit to guide you into all truth and reading and studying the interpretations of mans commentary on the Bible." The statements you make as if you know calvinists don't study scripture and ask the Spirit to guide, as if only people of your belief do that. The hypocrisy of acting like you never read and glean any info about scripture from a source other than scripture. It may not have been you but I'm pretty sure you already admitted to reading commentaries. If by your own admission, you can get no truth from them, then your read is in vain. You post this "What does this verse mean to you? Isaiah 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways," declares the LORD. " PJ responds with this " Well Two it seems to be that some say logic IS EQUIVALENT TO the wisdom of God," Two things: This directed at Calvinists clearly given the other threads around the time. More specifically, it's directed at me. Second it's a flat out misrepresentation of anything I said. NOBODY ever said this, or anything like it. PJ goes on to attack my belief using what is not my belief at all, "Logic say's, All does not mean all, World does not mean world, Whosoever is not whosoever" UMMMMMM NO IT DOESN'T When I asked how dead man can give life to himself, PJ said, "Ryan why ask me, my answer is in the word of God, I can read and I hear, two of the requirements to believe." Yet Sparrow, Just James and I deflect or don't answer? PJ follows that up with, "You have to be dead to believe what you are pushing Ryan" Still no scripture given for these claims, something you say only James and I do. Two, you follow up with this, " Ryan, you really need to shed the cult like thinking and think for yourself instead of parroting reformation jargon" and continue with a post much like the quote, again no scripture given A little later in the thread we hear from PJ, "Then one would have to conclude your answer came from a dead man Ryan!!. " no scripture given, yet trying to make a logical conclusion Would you like me to keep going? Post Reply
View Profile History	* The Obvious Truth that Only a Honest Calvinist would Admit * Posted : 7 Apr, 2011 09:22 AM Shared ~ The hypocrisy of saying Calvinism is a commentary and Arminianism isn't. *** Its all Hypocrisy...the Battle betwix two Dead Guys still Rages on...Yes it is Important History but This Thread is about Calvinisism...Not about Arminianism... Any Mans " Writting " about the Bible & what They Perceive of it...Is a Interpetation & a Commontary...Open for Private Interpetation...It is not the Bible that is the Word of GOD... Anywho...I gota get goin...Yall hava a Blessed day and know that you are loved...xo Post Reply
View Profile History	* The Obvious Truth that Only a Honest Calvinist would Admit * Posted : 7 Apr, 2011 10:24 AM It's about both. If one is from man, so is the other. Post Reply
View Profile History	* The Obvious Truth that Only a Honest Calvinist would Admit * Posted : 7 Apr, 2011 11:04 AM Yes !!! Calvinism & Arminism are Both from men...That is Why the Brothers & Sisters Dont Buy into Either...Its just a another Tag Name & Label such persons place on those that only Follow the Doctrine of Jesus & not mans...xo Post Reply
View Profile History	* The Obvious Truth that Only a Honest Calvinist would Admit * Posted : 7 Apr, 2011 11:35 AM It's about time some said this Post Reply
View Profile History	* The Obvious Truth that Only a Honest Calvinist would Admit * Posted : 7 Apr, 2011 01:07 PM Its the Truth...aint nothin Better than the Simple Truth...xo Post Reply

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