Author	Thread: What does it mean to be "dead in sin"?
Admin	What does it mean to be "dead in sin"? Posted : 7 Feb, 2011 06:14 PM In previous threads over the past couple days, there has been a huge problem become evident which has yet to been dealt with in the Calvinist vs. Arminian debate. The problem is this: Both sides have presented Scriptures supporting their arguments. It's like you've got one side saying, "These are the Calvinistic verses!" and the other, "These are the Arminian verses!" because Scripture is both of our authorities. However, Scripture cannot contradict itself, thus one of these views has wrongly interpreted some Scripture passages. Scriptures must be in agreement, thus if an interpretation can be shown to go against a *clear* teaching of Scripture, then the interpretation *must* be wrong. That said, I want to look at one particular point and that is total depravity and its implications. This thread is meant to answer the question "Are we dead in sin?" And if the answer is yes, "Does this mean we are totally depraved or have total spiritual inability?" These questions, and these ONLY are to be discussed. Please limit your arguments to these parameters. Ephesians 2 talks about being "dead in trespasses and sins" (v1) and how we were "dead in sins" (v5). As many of you well know, this is a proof text for Calvinism, if it can be shown that "dead in sins" does not equal "total depravity/total inability" then the Calvinism would be, at best, very badly injured. So...Are we dead in sins? And please explain what that means. Post Reply
View Profile History	What does it mean to be "dead in sin"? Posted : 8 Feb, 2011 01:58 PM In the post Ella agrees with both. and yes she tends to agree with Calvin, I think it may depend on the day of the week. Post Reply
View Profile History	What does it mean to be "dead in sin"? Posted : 8 Feb, 2011 01:58 PM NOPE, you're not , I'm :ROFL: See, your post proves that you ARE NOT reading my posts. I have explained that I am neither a Calvanist or SArminius, I belive in what God says in His word, and what the Holy Spirit reveals to me through His word. And Whose theology do you believe in? Where is your faith base?... To answer your question, if God has the supreme power to raise a physically DEAD person from the dead, and breath life back into the person again, are His power limited in that He is unable to raise a person who is spiritually DEAD from he dead from within? Being that, God is the creator of man, and is over man in ALL things to do with as He pleases and according to His Own will, plans, and purposes... Why are you missing the sovereign OMNIPOTENT power of God?:excited: Post Reply
View Profile History	What does it mean to be "dead in sin"? Posted : 8 Feb, 2011 02:03 PM PJ, you are too funny! ...go to your room:rocknroll::dancingp: FYI, I agree with what the Bible has to say, and if what God has given Paul to write in His word, agrees with what Calvin or anyone else has to say, then we all must then so agree that the word of God is spoken in truth by Paul, Calvin, Arninus, and Ella, and we are in one accord as we are called to eb regarding God's word...right?:applause:. Post Reply
View Profile History	What does it mean to be "dead in sin"? Posted : 8 Feb, 2011 02:07 PM Well Ella I have the ability to see and hear, and know the topic spoken of here, thus is my response. By the way man is not and has never been a natural man. Post Reply
View Profile History	What does it mean to be "dead in sin"? Posted : 10 Feb, 2011 11:59 AM This means that before we meet jesus we are dead in our sins. After we meet jesus we come alive and are alive in Christ. Post Reply

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