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Posted : 5 Jul, 2010 05:49 AM

If everyone is saved in exactly the same way, why do salvation experiences vary so greatly? There are scriptures that explain this. Hint: NT



Love and grace,

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Posted : 8 Jul, 2010 09:48 AM

Hello Everyone:



Why do we continue to believe that the Lord is helpless to do anything against our will,as though we and not He is in control.

Why do we believe the Lord cannot do anything against mans will.



Where were you YHWH asks Job:



Job 38:1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,

Job 38:2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?

Job 38:3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.

Job 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.



Mans will can never overcome the Sovereingnty of GOD.



This is the Word of Yeshua:

Luk 17:22 And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it.

Luk 17:23 And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them.

Luk 17:24 For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.

Luk 17:25 But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation.

Luk 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

Luk 17:27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.

Luk 17:28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;

Luk 17:29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

Luk 17:30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

Luk 17:31 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.

Luk 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.



Lot was pulled out of and away from the Judgement of YHWH;AGAINST THE WILL OF LOT AND HIS FAMILY!

The Lords will was to save Lot ,his wife and his daughters.

The Lords will was that they go to the mountain,Lots will was to go to Zoar,Lots will was to barter with the angels, yet the Lord still had them go to the mountain.

Lots wifes heart was still in Sodom,though her body was outside of the city.

There is an old saying:

You can take the boy out of the city,yet you cannot take the city out of the boy.





Gen 19:1 And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;

Gen 19:2 And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night.

Gen 19:3 And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat.



Gen 19:4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:

Gen 19:5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

Gen 19:6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,

Gen 19:7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.



Gen 19:8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

Gen 19:9 And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.

Gen 19:10 But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door.



Gen 19:11 And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door.

Gen 19:12 And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place:

Gen 19:13 For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the LORD; and the LORD hath sent us to destroy it.



Gen 19:14 And Lot went out, and spake unto his sons in law, which married his daughters, and said, Up, get you out of this place; for the LORD will destroy this city. But he seemed as one that mocked unto his sons in law.

Gen 19:15 And when the morning arose, then the angels hastened Lot, saying, Arise, take thy wife, and thy two daughters, which are here; lest thou be consumed in the iniquity of the city.

Gen 19:16 And while he lingered, the men laid hold upon his hand, and upon the hand of his wife, and upon the hand of his two daughters; the LORD being merciful unto him: and they brought him forth, and set him without the city.



Gen 19:17 And it came to pass, when they had brought them forth abroad, that he said, Escape for thy life; look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain, lest thou be consumed.

Gen 19:18 And Lot said unto them, Oh, not so, my Lord:

Gen 19:19 Behold now, thy servant hath found grace in thy sight, and thou hast magnified thy mercy, which thou hast shewed unto me in saving my life; and I cannot escape to the mountain, lest some evil take me, and I die:

Gen 19:20 Behold now, this city is near to flee unto, and it is a little one: Oh, let me escape thither, (is it not a little one?) and my soul shall live.

Gen 19:21 And he said unto him, See, I have accepted thee concerning this thing also, that I will not overthrow this city, for the which thou hast spoken.



Gen 19:22 Haste thee, escape thither; for I cannot do any thing till thou be come thither. Therefore the name of the city was called Zoar.

Gen 19:23 The sun was risen upon the earth when Lot entered into Zoar.

Gen 19:24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;

Gen 19:25 And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.

Gen 19:26 But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.



The Lords will is always going to prevail.



Act 5:34 Then stood there up one in the council, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, had in reputation among all the people, and commanded to put the apostles forth a little space;

Act 5:35 And said unto them, Ye men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what ye intend to do as touching these men.

Act 5:36 For before these days rose up Theudas, boasting himself to be somebody; to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all, as many as obeyed him, were scattered, and brought to nought.

Act 5:37 After this man rose up Judas of Galilee in the days of the taxing, and drew away much people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as obeyed him, were dispersed.

Act 5:38 And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought:

Act 5:39 But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.



Let us therefore trust the Lord that He is in complete control,and He knows what He is doing and wil be doing in the future.

We are bound by many things,the Lord is not.



Agape' and Charis:

Shalom and Chesed:

George



ps:Remember Saul/Paul on the Damascus Road.

The Lords Sovereignty or Saul/Pauls so-called FREE Will.



Let to our own SO-CALLED FREE WILL;I and every man woman and child would only do that which would destroy us for Eternity.

It is GODS WILL,Not mans will; that none should perish.

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Posted : 8 Jul, 2010 10:57 AM

Ok, Leon, here are some scriptures you can look up for yourself using the word COMPEL, which are also using one or more of the definitions for the word COMPEL. Get your Strong conrdance out, or go online to Strong and see for yourself how each passage is using the word COMPEL.

Compel (10 Occurrences)

Matthew 5:41 Whoever compels you to go one mile, go with him two. (Root in WEB KJV WEY ASV DBY)

This word COMPEL is used in Matthew chapter 5:41

Original Greek Word: ἀγγαρεύω

Transliteration: aggareu�

Phonetic Spelling: (ang-ar-yew'-o)

Short Definition: Hagar

Word Origin

of Pers. origin, cf. iggerah

Definition

to impress, compel

NASB Word Usage

forces (1), pressed into service (2).

NAS Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible with Hebrew-Aramaic and Greek Dictionaries

to necessitate, compel

Original Word: ἀναγκάζω

Transliteration: anagkaz�

Phonetic Spelling: (an-ang-kad'-zo)

Short Definition: compel

Here are more scriptures using the word compel which have different or simular definition usages.

Mark 15:21 They compelled one passing by, coming from the country, Simon of Cyrene, the father of Alexander and Rufus, to go with them, that he might bear his cross. (Root in WEB KJV WEY ASV DBY RSV)

Luke 5:34 "Can you compel the bridal party to fast," replied Jesus, "so long as they have the bridegroom among them? (WEY)

Here's where you are trying to make the word mean what it does not mean, as I pointed out, the word compel DOES NOT have the same meaning in every scripture you find in the Bible.

Luke 14:23 "The lord said to the servant,'Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled. (WEB KJV WEY DBY WBS NAS RSV)

COMPEL as used in Luke chapter 14:

Original Word: ἀναγκάζω

Transliteration: anagkaz�

Phonetic Spelling: (an-ang-kad'-zo)

Short Definition: compel

Word Origin

from anagk�

Definition

to necessitate, compel

NASB Word Usage

compel (3), compelled (2), force (1), forced (1), made (2).

NAS Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible with Hebrew-Aramaic and Greek Dictionaries

compel, constrain.

From anagke; to necessitate -- compel, constrain.

see GREEK anagke



Leon, If you search out in your Strong Concordance you will find that the Word COMPEl is used to imply differently in some passages, and mean the same in others.

2 Corinthians 10:2 I beseech you not to compel me when present to make a bold display of the confidence with which I reckon I shall show my 'courage' against some who reckon that we are guided by worldly principles. (WEY)

2 Corinthians 12:11 I have become foolish in boasting. You compelled me, for I ought to have been commended by you, for in nothing was I inferior to the very best apostles, though I am nothing. (Root in WEB KJV WEY ASV DBY WBS YLT NAS)

Galatians 2:14 But when I saw that they didn't walk uprightly according to the truth of the Good News, I said to Peter before them all, "If you, being a Jew, live as the Gentiles do, and not as the Jews do, why do you compel the Gentiles to live as the Jews do? (WEB KJV ASV DBY WBS YLT NAS RSV)

Galatians 6:12 As many as desire to look good in the flesh, they compel you to be circumcised; only that they may not be persecuted for the cross of Christ. (WEB WEY ASV DBY NAS RSV NIV)

Leviticus 25:39 And if thy brother that dwelleth by thee be waxen poor, and be sold unto thee; thou shalt not compel him to serve as a bondservant: (KJV DBY WBS

Compelled (22 Occurrences)

Matthew 14:22 And immediately he compelled the disciples to go on board ship, and to go on before him to the other side, until he should have dismissed the crowds. (DBY)

Matthew 27:32 As they came out, they found a man of Cyrene, Simon by name, and they compelled him to go with them, that he might carry his cross. (WEB KJV WEY ASV DBY RSV)

Mark 6:45 And immediately he compelled his disciples to go on board ship, and to go on before to the other side to Bethsaida, while he sends the crowd away. (DBY)

Mark 15:21 They compelled one passing by, coming from the country, Simon of Cyrene, the father of Alexander and Rufus, to go with them, that he might bear his cross. (WEB WEY RSV)

Acts 7:26 And on the morrow he shewed himself to them as they were contending, and compelled them to peace, saying, Ye are brethren, why do ye wrong one another? (DBY)

Acts 18:5 But when Silas and Timothy came down from Macedonia, Paul was compelled by the Spirit, testifying to the Jews that Jesus was the Christ. (WEB)

Acts 26:11 And I punished them oft in every synagogue, and compelled them to blaspheme; and being exceedingly mad against them, I persecuted them even unto strange cities. (KJV DBY WBS)

Acts 28:19 But, at last, the opposition of the Jews compelled me to appeal to Caesar; not however that I had any charge to bring against my nation. (WEY DBY RSV NIV)

1 Corinthians 5:10 not that in this world you are to keep wholly aloof from such as they, any more than from people who are avaricious and greedy of gain, or from worshippers of idols. For that would mean that you would be compelled to go out of the world altogether. (WEY)

1 Corinthians 9:16 For if I preach the Good News, I have nothing to boast about; for necessity is laid on me; but woe is to me, if I don't preach the Good News. (See NIV)

2 Corinthians 12:1 I am compelled to boast. It is not a profitable employment, but I will proceed to visions and revelations granted me by the Lord. (WEY)

2 Corinthians 12:11 I have become foolish in boasting. You compelled me, for I ought to have been commended by you, for in nothing was I inferior to the very best apostles, though I am nothing. (WEB KJV WEY ASV DBY WBS NAS)

Galatians 2:3 But not even Titus, who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised. (WEB KJV ASV DBY WBS YLT NAS RSV NIV)

The Word COMPELLED:

1 Peter 1:6 Rejoice triumphantly in the prospect of this, even if now, for a short time, you are compelled to sorrow amid various trials. (WEY)

Exodus 1:13 The Egyptians ruthlessly made the children of Israel serve, (See NAS)

Exodus 3:19 I know that the king of Egypt won't give you permission to go, no, not by a mighty hand. (See RSV)

1 Samuel 13:12 therefore said I: Now will the Philistines come down upon me to Gilgal, and I have not entreated the favour of the LORD; I forced myself therefore, and offered the burnt-offering.' (See NIV)

1 Samuel 28:23 But he refused, and said, I will not eat. But his servants, together with the woman, compelled him; and he hearkened unto their voice. So he arose from the earth, and sat upon the bed. (KJV DBY WBS)



2 Chronicles 21:11 Moreover he made high places in the mountains of Judah and caused the inhabitants of Jerusalem to commit fornication, and compelled Judah thereto. (KJV DBY WBS)



Ezra 4:23 Then when the copy of king Artaxerxes' letter was read before Rehum, and Shimshai the scribe, and their companions, they went in haste to Jerusalem unto the Jews, and made them to cease by force and power. (See NIV)



Esther 1:8 And the drinking was according to the law; none did compel; for so the king had appointed to all the officers of his house, that they should do according to every man's pleasure. (See RSV)

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Posted : 8 Jul, 2010 11:09 AM

COMPEL means the same in the English, the Greek, the Hebrew, the Latin, the Sapanish, the French, in any language. The difference is, how you use the word or the intented use of definitions of the word in your speech, that's what makes ANY word to take on different meaning.

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Posted : 8 Jul, 2010 02:33 PM

COMPEL as used in Luke chapter 14:



Original Word: ἀναγκάζω



Transliteration: anagkaz�



Phonetic Spelling: (an-ang-kad'-zo)



Short Definition: compel



Word Origin



from anagk�



Definition



to necessitate, compel



NASB Word Usage



compel (3), compelled (2), force (1), forced (1), made (2).



NAS Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible with Hebrew-Aramaic and Greek Dictionaries



compel, constrain.



From anagke; to necessitate -- compel, constrain.



see GREEK anagke



Your own definitions prove my point, as do your examples. Substitute the word force in each place compel is used and see if it changes the meaning. You will find that it does not.



Blessings,

Leon

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Posted : 8 Jul, 2010 04:53 PM

Ok, Leon, if you replaced COMPEL as you suggest with the word FORCE in Luke 14:verse 23, which one of the definitions for FORCE would you use to express the message here in this parable. Would you use FORCE as a NOUN or a VERB?

"And the lord said to the servant, Go into the highways and hedges, and (FORCE) them to comein, so that my house may be filled."

So, out of the list of definitions of the word FORCE listed below, which definition is the appropriate use of the word FORCE in this scripture?

Definitions of 'force' Wordnet

1. (noun) force

a powerful effect or influence

"the force of his eloquence easily persuaded them"

2. (noun) force

(physics) the influence that produces a change in a physical quantity

"force equals mass times acceleration"

3. (noun) force, forcefulness, strength

physical energy or intensity

"he hit with all the force he could muster"; "it was destroyed by the strength of the gale"; "a government has not the vitality and forcefulness of a living man"

4. (noun) force, personnel

group of people willing to obey orders

"a public force is necessary to give security to the rights of citizens"

5. (noun) military unit, military force, military group, force

a unit that is part of some military service

"he sent Caesar a force of six thousand men"

6. (noun) violence, force

an act of aggression (as one against a person who resists)

"he may accomplish by craft in the long run what he cannot do by force and violence in the short one"

7. (noun) power, force

one possessing or exercising power or influence or authority

"the mysterious presence of an evil power"; "may the force be with you"; "the forces of evil"

8. (noun) force

a group of people having the power of effective action

"he joined forces with a band of adventurers"

9. (noun) effect, force

(of a law) having legal validity

"the law is still in effect"

10. (verb) force out, force-out, force play, force

a putout of a base runner who is required to run; the putout is accomplished by holding the ball while touching the base to which the runner must advance before the runner reaches that base

"the shortstop got the runner at second on a force"

11. (verb) coerce, hale, squeeze, pressure, force

to cause to do through pressure or necessity, by physical, moral or intellectual means :"She forced him to take a job in the city"

"He squeezed her for information"

12. (verb) impel, force

urge or force (a person) to an action; constrain or motivate

13. (verb) push, force

move with force, "He pushed the table into a corner"

14. (verb) force, thrust

impose urgently, importunately, or inexorably

"She forced her diet fads on him"

15. (verb) wedge, squeeze, force

squeeze like a wedge into a tight space

"I squeezed myself into the corner"

16. (verb) force, drive, ram

force into or from an action or state, either physically or metaphorically

"She rammed her mind into focus"; "He drives me mad"

17. (verb) pull, draw, force

cause to move by pulling

"draw a wagon"; "pull a sled"

18. (verb) force

do forcibly; exert force

"Don't force it!"

19. (verb) storm, force

take by force

"Storm the fort"

Definitions of 'force' Webster 1913 Dictionary

1. (noun) force

a waterfall; a cascade

2. (noun) force

strength or energy of body or mind; active power; vigor; might; often, an unusual degree of strength or energy; capacity of exercising an influence or producing an effect; especially, power to persuade, or convince, or impose obligation; pertinency; validity; special signification; as, the force of an appeal, an argument, a contract, or a term

3. (noun) force

power exerted against will or consent; compulsory power; violence; coercion

4. (noun) force

strength or power for war; hence, a body of land or naval combatants, with their appurtenances, ready for action; -- an armament; troops; warlike array; -- often in the plural; hence, a body of men prepared for action in other ways; as, the laboring force of a plantation

5. (noun) force

strength or power exercised without law, or contrary to law, upon persons or things; violence

6. (noun) force

validity; efficacy

7. (noun) force

any action between two bodies which changes, or tends to change, their relative condition as to rest or motion; or, more generally, which changes, or tends to change, any physical relation between them, whether mechanical, thermal, chemical, electrical, magnetic, or of any other kind; as, the force of gravity; cohesive force; centrifugal force

8. (noun) force

to constrain to do or to forbear, by the exertion of a power not resistible; to compel by physical, moral, or intellectual means; to coerce; as, masters force slaves to labor

9. (noun) force

to compel, as by strength of evidence; as, to force conviction on the mind

10. (noun) force

to do violence to; to overpower, or to compel by violence to one;s will; especially, to ravish; to violate; to commit rape upon

11. (noun) force

to obtain or win by strength; to take by violence or struggle; specifically, to capture by assault; to storm, as a fortress

12. (noun) force

to impel, drive, wrest, extort, get, etc., by main strength or violence; -- with a following adverb, as along, away, from, into, through, out, etc

13. (noun) force

to put in force; to cause to be executed; to make binding; to enforce

14. (noun) force

to exert to the utmost; to urge; hence, to strain; to urge to excessive, unnatural, or untimely action; to produce by unnatural effort; as, to force a consient or metaphor; to force a laugh; to force fruits

15. (noun) force

to compel (an adversary or partner) to trump a trick by leading a suit of which he has none

16. (noun) force

to provide with forces; to reenforce; to strengthen by soldiers; to man; to garrison

17. (noun) force

to allow the force of; to value; to care for

18. (verb) force

to stuff; to lard; to farce

19. (verb) force

to use violence; to make violent effort; to strive; to endeavor

20. (verb) force

to make a difficult matter of anything; to labor; to hesitate; hence, to force of, to make much account of; to regard

21. (verb) force

to be of force, importance, or weight; to matter

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Posted : 8 Jul, 2010 06:49 PM

Now Ella,



You know very well that the usage is as a verb from the context. You used it to replace the verb in the sentence. I may be a country boy, but that doesn't mean uneducated. I had a B.S. in Engineering before coming to the Lord. I just never sat for the P.E. exam. I didn't need it in my field.



Love and grace,

Leon

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Posted : 8 Jul, 2010 09:31 PM

Okay Ella, You were closer to right than I was. After some study, the best way to describe it would be that they were told to use whatever means necessary to bring those people in. That does not man only force, so I was wrong. It does not even say that any had to be forced, so you could be 100% right for all we know.



I apologize, and I stand corrected.



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Posted : 9 Jul, 2010 09:49 AM

Leon, GO TO YOUR ROOM, NOW!....:ROFL:.. Its not about whether I'm right or you're wrong, or you're right or I'm worng, Its ALL about coming into agreement in one accord with what God says is right, for the sake of His word and helping others to understand what God is saying, and what God means by what He is saying in His word.:hearts::hearts:

Some like it hot, and some like it cold:dancingp::yay::peace::toomuch:

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"On this day, God wants you to know

... that Love is the most important thing. It's not about how much you have, how much you know, or how much you do. It's about how well you love. Love is what matters most." (from Facebook program)



God will ask, "Did you love?" (Bob Jones)



People will forget what you tell them and even what you do for them, but they will never forget how you made them feel. (~someone)



:hearts::hearts::hearts::hearts::hearts::hearts::hearts:



1Jn 4:20 Whoever says, "I love God," but hates another believer is a liar. People who don't love other believers, whom they have seen, can't love God, whom they have not seen.

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Posted : 17 Jul, 2010 01:04 PM

A Prophecy: I Heard "Grace Over America�Grace, Grace!"

Theresa Phillips



"Time for Grace Over America. Will You Share It?"



It's not very often you are awakened with a word like "Grace!" I was, and it was wonderful! With all the media hype and the relentless stabbing of people with the mouth, I found it so refreshing to hear the word "grace"; and then I heard:



"Time for grace over America. Will you share it?"



That gets my attention, for I adore America!



Then I heard this: "I am a good King. I am a loving King, and I adore My citizens!"



How wonderful to have that relationship with His Majesty, King Jesus! He loves us and He is placing grace over the nation!



"Is There Anyone?"



Then I was drawn to remember the grace of King David�the grace that he extended; and when I thought of it, I felt the Presence of His majesty so strong, I had to jump into the Word and live it! David was a great King: He is depicted as a righteous king, not without fault, as well as an acclaimed warrior. A man after God's own heart (Acts 13:22).



I heard the Lord ask, "Is there anyone?"



2 Samuel 9:1-3 (AMP) And David said, "Is there still anyone left of the house of Saul to whom I may show kindness for Jonathan's sake?" And of the house of Saul there was a servant whose name was Ziba. When they had called him to David, he said to him, "Are you Ziba?" He said, "I, your servant, am he." The king said, "Is there not still someone of the house of Saul to whom I may show the (unfailing, unsought, unlimited) mercy and kindness of God?" Ziba replied, "Jonathan has yet a son who is lame in his feet."



As I was reading this I heard, "Is there anyone left that I can bless? I desire to bless!" said the Lord. Naturally, I said, "Me, Lord, over here!"



"Who Will Come to My Table?"



But then He said again, "Who will come to My table? Who will sit at My table?" With this, I began to break, for I wasn't sure if I was worthy to sit at a King's table. For when a King is present we know it is only his "closest confidants" that are bid to come. At a King's table one hears matters of state, the orders of the day, the very things closest to the King's heart. Was I to hear? Yet, He is asking today, "Who can I bless who is left?"



2 Samuel 9:4-5 And the king said, "Where is he?" Ziba replied, "He is in the house of Machir son of Ammiel in Lo-debar." Then King David sent and brought him from the house of Machir son of Ammiel at Lo-debar.



Where are we? Where are you? Where am I? This was my own questioning. Yet, I heard Him call, so I must be accepted. He is calling. The King is calling, bidding us to come and sit at His royal table�to dine with Him, to be preserved by Him, to receive back all that has been taken from us. It's the nature of a King to tend to His subjects. It's His responsibility as a sovereign leader to do so.



We are citizens of His Royal Kingdom and He will take care of us�restore back to us all our spiritual, royal lineage that He has for us. We are joint heirs with Him�it is our inherited right, by the Blood right of the Cross. We are grafted in. He did this, after all, for all of us.



I hear Him saying..."Go, Church. Go get them. All those who are lame, all those who have been rejected, all those who have once been an enemy. Tell them I will restore, restore, restore! I know I am King."



"America, Grace I will Extend to You"



David knew he was king. He had nothing to fear. Jonathan's son was alive, he was near. He had David's love; it was his by inherited rights. Jonathan was David's dearest friend. His family was not about to be ignored any longer. There must be affirmation. This son is, after all, of royal blood! Kings recognize royalty; they know their own kind.



Grace is extended by David the king. Grace to a lame man who once shared the pleasures and rights of the Kingdom. Grace brought restoration to a man who had lost it all. (Sounding familiar, America?) Grace was invoked by love�Grace!



"America, grace I will extend to you. Now I will raise the Church to a place of unmerited favor!"



2 Samuel 9:6-7 (AMP) And Mephibosheth son of Jonathan, the son of Saul, came to David and fell on his face and did obeisance (respectful behavior). David said, "Mephibosheth!" And he answered, "Behold your servant!" David said to him, "Fear not, for I will surely show you kindness for Jonathan your father's sake, and will restore to you all the land of Saul your father (grandfather), and you shall eat at my table always."



O how wonderful! O how wonderful God is, granting grace to America, grace to come and eat at His table.



A Movement of Supernatural Proportions!



As I read on, I heard this:



"A movement of supernatural proportions is in America. The movement is this: Many of those who have once been in the forefront of the Church are coming back! They have shown Me great respect. They have repented, and I am calling My own back to Me. For I long to have them at My table.



"I long to show mercy, not judgment. I long to show grace and favoritism. I love to love. Who will come? Is there anyone left for the sake of My Loving Father who has not been called back? Is there anyone left who was banished, alone, robbed, discredited, lame, rejected, fallen and can't get up?



"Go get them, bring them to Me," says the Lord. "I will place them once again at the King's table and cover their weakness with the gilded skirts covering My table. No one will see the weakness in My Presence. None will question the validity of their presence.



"For I am longing. Why you may ask? For I love America, and from her shores has come the living Gospel. The breath of My word and I shall have grace on her; I have remembered her. As I heard Israel cry out, I hear America!



"What she has done in the past I do remember. Her children of faith have touched nations�I know it! Well done, children. Well done. Come and sit at My table now and listen to what is on the King's heart. Come, let Me cover you. Let Me hide your shame. Let Me restore you," says the Lord. "What you hear, what you think you see is not My Kingdom in your midst. My Kingdom has joint heirs of grace!"



"Father, Grant Us this Wondrous

Grace You Have Sent"



A prayer of great blessing fell upon my lips. I wish to share it with you, if I may:



O Father, I see You high and lifted up. I see Your Son next to You, seated in the Heavens. I see my seat near Him when I look up. O Father, grant us this wondrous grace You have sent. Grant us the heart of mercy toward those who have been left out or walked away, broken and abandoned, lost and left out. I cry, LORD, make me a Ziba. Give us strength to forgive those in this family as You do. Grace is on Your heart today.



O Lord, I ask for it to be mine as well, for You O Lord are the Scepter of GOD the Father; I long to touch You. I long to be near You! I pray You will receive us. We hear the call to go and find, go and tell, and go and be the bearer of the Good News of GRACE. But most of all, we hear, "Go and restore. Bring them to be blessed!"



Then we will all dine with You and feel the wonderful grace You have shed upon us, and then we too can shed it upon others. This we know, O GOD, will change us. We know grace is Your love, and we choose this day to accept the King's favor and walk in the steadfast grace You have given us.



Shine, America, shine. The King's grace is present. In Jesus' name, Amen.



Theresa Phillips

Chicago Prophetic Voice

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