I have already addressed the questions you have asked but in another thread. Have you read the articles I posted regarding the Mosaic Law being done away with and replaced?
Tithes ~ Reply to Walters reply...NKJV used for referance....
Jude,
You said: "Walter ~ Could you please find in Scripture and Prove that JESUS* said NOT to Tithe..???
Oh My ~ Walter...Why is it when someone else other than You asks a question or shares their belief, knowledge, wisdom, insight, view, perspective it is shot down like a Quail outa the sky. So you have actually answered my question�and the answer is NO ! you can not�
WALTER: Sorry but that is not a valid argument. It's the same bad argument that Sabbath Keepers use like this one: "Well show me where Jesus said NOT to keep the Sabbath". An argument from silence is not a good argument�.
Oh My ~ Not a Valid argument ? Was I argueing ?. It serves no purpose here. I was simply asking a question in which you jus bashed those which keep the Sabbath Holy unto the LORD� :-{
WALTER: The fact is that for those who teach that "Tithing" is a requirement, they have the burden of proof.
Oh My ~Teaching and Burden of Proof ? Walter ~ Does GOD�s �Word� pass away with the OLD Covenant as you believe the OLD Covenant passes away ? I believe not. For GOD�s Word is the same Yesturday, Today and Forever. So it can not return Null an Void.
OT/Num 18:26 ~ Thus speak unto the Levites, and say unto them, When ye take of the children of Israel the tithes which I have given you from them for your inheritance,( then ye shall offer up an heave offering of it for the LORD, even a tenth part of the tithe.)
JUDE: "Please lets not discuss this on-going jumping topic of OLD an New Covenant on this tread."
WALTER: This is not a jumping of topic as it is directly related to the issue of what was required as a commandment under the Mosaic Covenant is no longer a requirement under the NEW Covenant. Regardless... as I have already proven, GENTILES were never under the Mosaic Covenant, only Jews were.
Oh My ~ I�m reading this together an see that it is just as it is�.on-going....go figer�
JUDE: "We are to Give 10% to GOD. Church/Temple... I Tithe 10% of all that crosses my Hand...because GOD's WORD says so...
Oh My ~ Yes�I did say that and once again ~ OT/Num 18:26 ~ Thus speak unto the Levites, and say unto them, When ye take of the children of Israel the tithes which I have given you from them for your inheritance,( then ye shall offer up an heave offering of it for the LORD, even a tenth part of the tithe.)
WALTER: If you cannot find a scripture where Jesus specifically commanded the Apostles to "Tithe" then you have no basis for telling others that they are required to tithe�
Oh My ~ Jesus did not Command the Apostles to �Tithe� or not �Tithe� for it was already in place. We have all the Basis needed by The Lord Jesus Christ an GOD�s Word�.Spoken, Written, Inspired�.Please read�
OT/Mal 3:10 ~ Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
OT/Mal 3:18 ~ Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.
NT/Matt 23:23 ~ Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
NT/Luke 11:42 ~ But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
Nt/Luke 18:12 ~ I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
WALTER: and furthermore you would be in direct disobedience to Jesus Himself according to Mat 28:20.
Oh My ~ Which states for all to see��Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.�
You all can call to my attention anything about what I say or do. It is our Christain duty to the Body of Christ�.but, only GOD can judge me. And Jesus will be there when my time comes. So thank you Walter for passing Judgement on ME as being Incorrect and in Dis-Obedience to Jesus Him self. Please remember brother�As you judge so shall you be judged�I will Pray for you and I love you unconditionally. I just don�t like you very much�
And in the Word�s of Forrest Gump��That�s all I got to say bout that��.xo
dear jude, it seems you have said your peace here.. now even though i believe you was provoked a little... its still not right..
i understand your passion for your beliefs ..
though i do need to ask you to please not make those kinds of comments .. and no need for me i dont think to post em as im sure you know which ones i mean ... and i do thank you for your cooperation..
dear folks
this is to everyone,,,,
although i understand your frusterations when others tell any of us that we are giving bad arguements or being disobedient.. when we dont agree with their same beliefs exactly.. it really does take on belittling ,bashing others then.. as in bad arguements of sabbath believers.. ect ect.. this ought not be so..
as ive reminded everyone we can make our points and speak our beliefs without being insulting or abrassive ,provoking ,, or bashing others.
and tellin others exactly how wrong they are.. etc etc..
its just as easy to say i disagree with you or i believe you are wrong.. .. and wouldnt be near as provoking..
but when you say you are wrong,,, {period... } thats what triggers emotions.. remember your facts may not be someone elses facts..
those kinds of words will definitely raise blood pressure of any believer who believes what they believe.. and have proven to themselves what is right or wrong with their own intrepretation of what scriptures mean to them. or what theyve been taught..
when we start to do that and make claims we are totally right and all others who disagree are wrong.. thats when you leave the discussion and become argumentative and provoking.... as i said before your facts may not be someone elses facts..
it becomes no longer a discussion but i am right and you are wrong arguement.. and provoking words are usually used then...
cause with all of us with different denominations all gathered under one roof well who gets dibbs on who is totally right? baptists? pentecostols, catholics? seventh day adventists? methodists? protestants?calvinists? non denominationals denominations? i dont even know em all and im sorry if i missed yours...
see each ones have scriptures to back their beliefs for many years... all claimin to be right.. and both sides can make good arguements.. it comes down to what you believe in your hearts..
so we really cant make it an im right youre wrong arguement ..cause that aint a discussion.. it just turns provoking.. ya see where im comin from?
so im asking everybody to please just speak your beliefs and why you believe what you believe without doin any of the things i spoke of above to others.. be it to persons or groups of peoples.. and please stop the im right youre wrong stuff too... now i hope youll all understand why this kinds of talk is asked to be curbed.. it just usually makes ill will towards others and usually winds up just makin more proviking words to commence.. and therefore leaves bein a discussion and is turned into an arguement..
sure its ok to speak your beliefs and try to teach others what you have come to believe scripture says.. and test your beliefs.. and those of others. we can do it without all that other though cant we? thanks yawl for your cooperations..
galatians 6:10 Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all, especially to those who are of the household of faith.
i believe were all of the hosehold of faith here.. no matter ones denomination.. remember we are on the same side..
Sorry but that is not a valid argument. It's the same bad argument that Sabbath Keepers use like this one
Regardless... as I have already proven,
If you cannot find a scripture where Jesus specifically commanded the Apostles to "Tithe" then you have no basis for telling others that they are required to tithe�
and furthermore you would be in direct disobedience to Jesus Himself according to Mat 28:20.
mine here
first off you make an insult about sabbath believers..
then you blow off all others that dont believe the same as you.. as in reguardless, you have already proven.. as in no matter what anyone else says matters..
you may of proven it to yourself and possibly others.. but not to everyone.. as ive said before your facts may not be everyone elses facts..
see according to your belief you believe others who dont believe exactly as you ,,,,are in direct disobedience to GOD.. and have no basis telling others anything..
you may well be right on,,, about everything .. and i mean everything.. you may be..
but youre not havin a discussion with folks that way.. as those words become insulting and provoking..
so please do stop such behavior.. .. i do hope you will try to do better..
dear phillip, who gets to decide what is clearly wrong? and what you must believe? not anyone here ,myself included gets to decide what another must believe.. the administration doesnt even get to tell folks what they got to believe scripturally... only how folks need to behave whilest here.. right
this is a public place and which denomination is it that gets to say what is clearly wrong or right here scripturally? all claim to be right.. all use scripture to prove their points..and all truely believe they are right..
see its not a baptist site.. its not a pentecostol site or any other denomination site..
it is a christian site.. if it was all say a baptist site then i imagine they would expect you to believe as all baptists believe..
or any other denominations site..
but its not.... its a christian site.. for all christians.. so we will have differences in beliefs... yep we sure will.
so you get to decide for yourself what is right or wrong scripturally to you..
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now i imagine what you speak of is more frusterating for someone than insulting hehe...
