Author	Thread: importance in knowing the Feast of the LORD--I THINK YOU ALL SHOULD READ THIS
Admin	importance in knowing the Feast of the LORD--I THINK YOU ALL SHOULD READ THIS Posted : 14 Dec, 2009 05:32 PM As christians growing up in western Gentile churches we are not taught the Feast of the LORD. It is very important to understand them because YAHSHUA (JESUS) fulfilled the Spring Feast down to the last detail and HE will fulfill the Fall Feast when HE comes as judge. Mattithyahu (Matthew) 7:22-23 says "Many shall say to me in that day, Master,Master, have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and done many mighty works in Your Name? 23 And then I shall declare to them, I never knew you, depart from Me, you who are lawlessness." In these verses HE is saying those who are lawless meaning those who do not keep HIS law meaning the Torah (the instructions). Those who go out and make up denominations and call them HIS. Those who do not worship on HIS appointed day, the Sabbath. Those who cast out demons, they will say they have done many works in HIS Name. Who does this sound like to you? Do you think that nonbelievers would say to HIM they cast out anything in HIS Name? NO it is the churches that have been misleading you into believing that you no longer need to keep the law. Many will preach to you and say JESUS did away with the law by shedding HIS blood on the cross. When really HE bought you with HIS blood and was the Passover Lamb, by which HE was fulfilling the Passover rehearsal they had been keeping since they came out of slavery. HE did away with the sacrifice you don't have to spill blood anymore cause HE did it for the last time. If they say that HE did away with the law then why would HE say in Mattithyahu (Matthew) 5:17-20 "Do not think that i came to destroy the Torah or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to complete. 18 For truly, I say to you, till the heaven and the earth pass away, one yod or one tittle shall by no means pass from the Torah till all be done. " (NOW READ THIS NEXT PART WITH UNDERSTANDING) " 19 Whoever, then breaks one of the least of these commands, and teaches men so, shall be called the least in the reign of the heavens; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the reign of the heavens. 20 For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you shall by no means enter into the reign of the heavens." When YAHSHUA came HE broke all of the rabbinic law that the Pharisees had put into place many of which we do the same of by saying things like well christmas means this to me and i think that HE doesn't really mean we should keep the old law that is old we are living in the new times. That my friends will get you a one way ticket to "depart from me". When HE says no yod or tittle will pass that means no yod or tittle until the end of the world. Meaning we keep these commands forever. Look closely at the part that says men teach others to not keep it, that is what religious systems are doing by telling you to worship on sungod day and not to keep HIS appointed times. If JESUS tells you to do something then what should you do? We misread Scripture to make it fit into our lives so we can live the way we want to live. YAHWAH has always wanted us to be servants of HIM to call HIM ELOHIM. Do some research on christmas and easter. For easter you can look up ,mithra and nimrod, and christmas just search origins of christmas and you'll see it is the birthdays of mithra,ra, and many other sungods that were being worshiped in those days and now. In 1 Thessalonians 5:1-6 " Now brothers, as to the times and the seasons, you do not need to be written to. 2 For you yourselves know very well that the day of YAHWAH comes as a thief in the night. 3 For when they say, "Peace and safety!" then suddenly destruction comes upon them, as labour pains upon a pregnant woman, and they shall not escape. 4 But you, brothers, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief. For you are all sons of light and sons of the day. We are not of the night nor of darkness. 6 So then, we should not sleep, as others do, but we should watch and be sober." this is saying that they needed no writing about the times and the seasons ( The Feast of the LORD) for they knew already that it would come like a thief and if you know a thief is coming do you let them come? NO you know they are coming so you prepare for them. When he says like labour pains it means sudden, without warning. They will not be caught like that cause they are in the light and not in the dark about the true Messiah, not the one that has been made up to fit our pagan religious system. What do they teach you in religion peace and safety? If you go to church you will be okay? is that the way you think YAHSHUA taught? NO HE said keep the Torah keep the commandments. All we have to do is read them to understand them, dear brothers and sisters if we don't start to understand the Feast of the LORD we will be in darkness when HE comes,,the hour no man knows and that is the same as how no man knows the beginning of the Biblical year or the Feast dates until the new moon is sighted in Israel. And who controls the moon? It has been this way for as long as they have been there, but none of us know these things. We have been brought up in a system that does not tell us what we need to hear but what will get people in seats and smiles on faces. These verses are talking about being ready and understanding what is before us in our Scripture. YAHSHUA broke most of their laws(rabbinic laws) and that is why they killed HIM. HE taught that the Temple is not the Spirit the Spirit is alive in you not so building. He taught that the FATHER is alive in you. Little did they know it was all planned. If satan had known killing HIM was the will of YAHWAH, he would have tried to keep HIM as safe as possible. Remember the verse that talks about YAHSHUA being tempted and when satan said look see all the kingdoms of the world, i will give them to you if you kneel before me. YAHSHUA never argued that he didn't have the power to give them to HIM. HE just turned it down. From the second man fell he handed the deed to this world over to satan and this world is his brothers and sisters until YAHSHUA breaks the seals and reclaims what is in the hands of satan and his angels. So beware what you call HIS celebration and please get out and learn about the Feast of the LORD, read your Scripture for yourself stop letting preachers guide you into believing lies. They may not mean to it is just what they are taught too. Read Leviticus 23 for yourself pray and ask the HOLY SPIRIT to guide you not men. I beg you to listen to YAHWAH and come back to the Torah( the instructions) with all my love and prayers for your well being may the peace of YAHWAH our ELOHIM be with you always R Post Reply
Devotedlove47^ View Profile History	importance in knowing the Feast of the LORD--I THINK YOU ALL SHOULD READ THIS Posted : 25 Dec, 2009 03:48 PM Dear icebro, Now, I have read everything you posted, in response to the passages of scriptures, which I posted for your comment. In reading your response, I noticed that, you did not speak of them, nor mention any of the verses, in which the apostle Paul taught specifically against the act of judging a person, over how they do, or do not observe days to the Lord. (Rom. 14 : 5-10), (Gal. 4 : 9-12 ), (Col. 2 :16 ) I also noticed, that you did not give an explain to us, on what you believe the apostle Paul meant, when he wrote them, seeing that you obviously do not believe, that he meant what he said. You also handled the verses in the book of Mark the same way, Specifically verses 2 : 23-27, where Jesus clearly states his thoughts on the sabbath day. Now to make it plain to you, Jesus said that �the sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath�. It was created as a day of rest for man, and man was not created for the purpose of worshiping the sabbath day. Therefore, as David's need for God's mercy and grace, superceded the law of the showbread, so now too, through Christ, his disciples needs, receive that same dispensation of grace and mercy, in their own dispensation of time. 3:1 For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles, 3:2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward: 3:3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, 3:4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) 3:5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; 3:6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel: 3:7 Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power. 3:8 Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ; 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ: Eph. 3 : 1-9 4:14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession. 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. Heb. 4 : 14-16 Shalom my brother!!! Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	importance in knowing the Feast of the LORD--I THINK YOU ALL SHOULD READ THIS Posted : 25 Dec, 2009 05:35 PM I sorry if I came off the wrong way...I do believe we need to know and study the feasts, and even the sacrificial system. The object lessons and insights into the plan of salvation through those things are awesome. BUT it is not required that we keep them. That's all I'm trying to say. :peace::peace: Post Reply
View Profile History	importance in knowing the Feast of the LORD--I THINK YOU ALL SHOULD READ THIS Posted : 25 Dec, 2009 10:42 PM well in the verses about Sha'ul i did try to explain and i guess i could muster up the energy to explain them one more time as i have done this and i feel as though i am talking to a brick wall( no offense there i'm tired though) but one more time i will give you verses as i wrote them out one time and the message was lost when i hit submit making me think that in some way i was not supposed to post it,,i feel as though i should just shake the dust off brother and move on to a new town,,I will explain the Marqos (Mark) verse though it is simply as i explained before the Pharisees and scribes had rabbinic laws put into place saying all kinds of things that you could not do on the Sabbath or any other day,,they have laws that govern which shoe you put on first in the morning and so on,,if one were to try and follow these laws they would constantly be under the thumb of the rabbinic law,,this is what YAHSHUA was breaking HIS whole ministry,HE went around breaking their laws and throwing it in their faces,,this made them very angry,,angry enough to kill HIM but little did they know it was YAHWAH's plan all along if they had known this they would not have killed HIM or let me rephrase that if satan had known this was YAHWAH's plan HE would not have had the Romans kill YAHSHUA,,so there was YAHSHUA letting HIS followers pick and eat food on Sabbat and here come the PHarisees with their laws "you can't eat that or pick food on Sabbat that is against the law" then YAHSHUA says Sabbat was made for man not man made for Sabbat meaning Sabbat is a gift and it is too rest,,YAHWAH told us to keep it Holy,,HE didn't want us to fill it full of rules that would take away from the meaning of it which is to rest,,the Pharisees had all kinds of things made up for it like they would take an idem from their house miles outside of town and place it on the ground then they could walk all around town and any where they wanted,,it because of this that they had a problem with when YAHSHUA told the man HE made to walk to get up and TAKE HIS BED and go,,if this man couldn't walk the day before them he couldn't have gone and placed idems of his home around town so that he could mingle around town without breaking rabbinic law for the Sabbath,,my brother my point is i could give you examples in these verses until my fingers fell off but you don't understand the context in which they were written or what they were reference too,,that is all i am saying get some Hebrew back ground on the matters i don't want you to see it my way, i want you to see it the CREATORS WAY,, i don't want you to agree with me,, i don't have a doctrine that i am trying to trick you into believing by misunderstanding scripture for its true meaning,look i was lost in this gentile world under the thumb of doctrine that is why i said you should just get some back ground info on your Hebrew roots in the Scriptures, you do know they were all Hebrew and Israeli in origin right,,yes i know you do,,so you have to understand that Sha'ul was speaking of this rabbinic law as well there is no way that after YAHSHUA appeared to Sha'ul and asked why are you persecuting me that he would go on doing it,,Sha'ul was always speaking of the rabbinic law brother not the TORAH ,,the bottom line is the TORAH was given to us at Mount Sinai and yes we are to keep the Feast no one ever said we were not,,Sha'ul keep the Feast of YAHWAH so why would he write a letter to someone else and tell them not too,,certain Feast we are required to keep for all generations and if you or anyone else don't see that then you are not reading the Scriptures as a whole,,you have to read all of the Gospels together to get the full meaning you have to read the complete Torah,Prophets,Kethubim Aleph,and the Kethubim Bet(new testament) to understand the Scriptures are not divided no law has been changed since Wayyiqra(Leviticus) YAHSHUA said Mattithyahu(Matthew) 5:17-20 "Do not think that i came to destroy the Torah or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to complete. 18 "For truly, i say to you, till the heaven and the earth pass away, one yod or one tittle shall by no means pass from the Torah till all be done. 19 "Whoever, then breaks one of the least of these commands, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the reign of the heavens; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the reign of the heavens. 20 "For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you shall by no means enter into the reign of the heavens. " i think these verses say it all,,there is no way that Sha'ul would teach against YAHSHUA and if HE said not one yod or tittle then i bet HE meant it until the end,,now if you say that we are not to keep what most call old law then this means somebody is lying,,now who is it? is it those who call it old law or is it YAHSHUA? i am here to tell you brother there is no old law ,there is the Torah which means instructions, commonly misunderstood to mean law but it doesn't it means instructions,,okay so here is some more info on YAHSHUA being misunderstood and you having no clue about it,,go check out this verse real quick Mattithyahu(Matthew) 23: 1-4 right now but please feel free to read on through the whole chapter which by the way there were no chapters in the originals so okay it says here 23 1-4 Mattithyahu 1 Then YAHSHUA spoke to the crowds and to HIS taught ones, 2 saying, "The scribes and the Pharisees sit on the seat of Mosheh(Moses). 3" Therefore, whatever THEY say to you to guard, guard and do. But do not do according to their works, for they say, and do not do. 4 " For they bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men's shoulders, but with their finger they do not wish to move them. 5 " And they do all their works to be seen by men, and they make their t'fillen wide and lengthen the tzitzit of their garments" okay so we have much to discuss here first off let me tell you i didn't mean to go on through the 5th verse but i did,,the rest of this goes on to slam them for all the things they do and how they are full of themselves and not the FATHER and following them will take you far away from the FATHER,,now, well, first lets tell you about the tzitzit if you didn't know it is fabric that is woven into the garments of all the Israelites it is to remember the commandments given to us all at Mount Sinai,,this is what the Scriptures talked about when they said that you would find healing in the tzitzit of the MESSIAHS garment and this is why you have read about the crowds trying to get at YAHSHUA to touch HIS clothes,,now reread the verses here it says that the scribes and Pharisees sit in the seat of Mosheh so do what they say to do???? now just think about that for a minute they sit in Moses seat so do what they tell you to do but beware they are really bad examples and following their ways will lead you far from the FATHER??? why would YAHSHUA say such a thing??? why would HE tell us to listen to somebody that is not following the FATHER??? hmmmmmm well brother i'll tell you why it is because Mattithyahu was not written in Greek no it was written in Hebrew then into Aramaic then into Greek,,and the Greeks thought that the Hebrew was too hard to understand so they used the Aramaic which is now the second translation,, ,,the original Hebrew text reads Mattithyahu 23:2-3 saying," The scribes and the Pharisees sit on the seat of Mosheh 3 " Therefore, whatever HE(meaning Moses) say to you do guard, guard and do. But do not do according to their works, for they say, and do not do" see how much more sense this makes now so if they sit in the seat of Mosheh then do what Mosheh says to do ,not what they say,,so see brother it is through this understanding that i have been able to understand the Scriptures better,, to understand what they mean and let me tell you brother they are so much easier to understand if you know the roots ,,they open up where there is no question of the meaning and we would not have to have these discussion such as this,,,we have been passed down through many generations misunderstanding of the true meaning cause we don't understand the original Hebrew roots of the Scriptures and keeping the Feast will only help you to understand them from that perspective,,well i hope this helps you see it better i know i didn't hit at all on Sha'ul the way that you may have wanted but brother i am here to tell you that YAHWAH loves you so much and HE wants you,,this is the time of gentiles brother,,this is the time that Scriptures have been revealed to the gentiles but unfortunately it won't last forever it is said that the time of gentiles will make Israel jealous and spark them back into and uprising of MESSIANIC fellowship a new revival in the land,,and that is not saying that time is up there are no more gentiles,,it is just saying that we will be given the truth finally after so many years of inheriting the man-made false teachings,,okay i am getting a little ahead here this stuff will sound like crazy talk unless you know what i am talking about so my dear brother again look up Scot Dryer and listen to him teach he has some great things to tell you and be well and safe,,and really believe me that it is not my doctrine i have nothing at all to gain if you don't except that there are things you may not understand in the Scriptures because you have been given the wrong information on the origin then there is nothing i can do,,but pray and i do and i will,,you do the same ask the FATHER about this stuff ask HIM where you should go and i bet HE will lead you to the right place,,as it is Sabbat brother i bid you farewell my dear brother your heart is so ripe for the harvest ask HIM brother ask HIM with an open heart and see what HE says,,may the peace of YAHWAH be with you always Shalom dear brother oh and i get intense about this stuff but don't think for a minute that any of this was written with a heart against you it is written with love love love so that you may understand please be safe i love you so much as i do all of those who read this,, Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	importance in knowing the Feast of the LORD--I THINK YOU ALL SHOULD READ THIS Posted : 26 Dec, 2009 11:26 AM I understand, and I know how you feel. Most of the christian world does not agree with ME when it comes to the 10 commandments, and it's frustrating. But I still don't believe the feasts are required. The sacrifices are not required. Why? Because they were all pointing to Christ. Christ fulfilled the object of those feasts and sacrifices. I don't believe the feasts are necessary and I do believe the bible writers agree with me. After the death of Jesus some of the Jews were trying to make the gentiles observe the feasts/food laws/sacrificial laws and Paul admonished them. Read Romans 14. Anyway...I'm sorry, but I think you are doing what Paul says not to do. I'm not a Hebrew, and I feel no need whatsoever to remove myself from the law of liberty and place myself under the unnecessary(but still holy) laws of feasts and circumcisions and sacrifices. I believe those were fulfilled, and we were freed from them. :peace::peace: Post Reply
CeceliaRenea View Profile History	importance in knowing the Feast of the LORD--I THINK YOU ALL SHOULD READ THIS Posted : 27 Dec, 2009 02:34 AM I can't belive I'm jumping into this one. Don't tell me that now I need to remember 365 negative restrictions and 248 positive commands from the old testament to make it to heaven! I think I can safely say that God knew what he was doing when I was made, and this can't be so! lol I just wanted to address the original post. I read the entire Holy Bible and through the Spirit I learn things from the entire Holy Bible. But I do believe that Jesus was the fulfillment of the law and anything he said was the final word on the subject, and alot of what he said did alter some of the teachings in the Old Testament, or rather he clarified quite a bit and gave better understanding. He is the Vine and we are the branches. We were given the Spirit and told it would constantly remind us of his ways, so I do believe the Holy Spirit will convict us if we do wrong, whether it be a law from the Old Testament or something Jesus said in the New Testament. Right is right and wrong is wrong, and certainly no one should want to break any of the ten commandments because it doesn't make moral sense to if you are a christian. Jesus' greatest command was that we love the Lord with all of us, and that we love one another as he loved the church. If we walk in in this type of perfect love, and follow his teachings and examples, we can't go wrong. There is no way to the Father except through the Son, anything else would belittle this Great Act Of Love. I think Jesus took the most important commands and instructed us even further in them, and it all made sense if you walked in LOVE. But I certainly can agree that all other forms of sacrifice were done away with because of God's sacrifice of Jesus, the only son he had. Anyone who does not understand what being "saved" means needs to be saved, obviously, and I would pray for them. This is what the Spirit tells me. God bless and keep you all. Your friend in Christ, CeceliaRenea Post Reply
Devotedlove47^ View Profile History	importance in knowing the Feast of the LORD--I THINK YOU ALL SHOULD READ THIS Posted : 27 Dec, 2009 12:53 PM Dear icebro, Based on my observations, of how you present information, you appear to have an inability to remain loyal to the scriptures, whenever they disagree with your beliefs. I have come to the conclusion therefore, that any further attempts to establish a legitimate discussion of them would be fruitless, seeing that you cannot move beyond this obstruction. You have no problem quoting the scriptures, when you feel they support your beliefs, but you then ignore, misrepresent, or attempt to discredit certain passages when you feel they threaten those beliefs. As long as you continue to conduct yourself in this manner, your efforts to establish what you believe will be unsuccessful, being that this type of behavior is always self defeating of one's purpose. Grace be with you in Jesus name! Post Reply

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