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IS "THE GIFT OF TONGUES," OF MODERN PENTECOSTALISM BIBLICAL?
Posted : 23 Aug, 2009 09:41 AM

IS "THE GIFT OF TONGUES," OF MODERN PENTECOSTALISM BIBLICAL?



The answer as you will shortly learn, is "NO!"



There has been much debate over the tongues of what must be referred to a "modern pentecostalism!" We are not going to conduct an indepth exhaustive exposition of the subject of tongues, at this point, for it is not necessary to prove this one point, and that is, "modern pentecostals cannot all speak with 'THE GIFT OF TONGUES!'"



Please, allow me to explain.



First of all, I was in what may be termed "a pentecostal church," for about 11 years, so I know all about the subject of tongues, and that the scripture is VERY CLEAR about the spiritual gifts, and that "the tongues" that all pentecostals are encouraged to get, in order to demonstrate that one is "filled with the spirit," cannot be biblical, or valid.



Here is the passage Paul wrote, when he was confronted with the same, "so-called pentecostals," then, as we are now. There were men who claimed to represent the Holy Spirit, but something was very wrong with their tongues, as it is still the case, today. So-called charismatic or spirit-filled churches were springing up, claiming that they were pentecostals, with the gifts of the spirit; and so Paul addressed the administration of the gifts of the Spirit, and as you are about to learn, Paul shotdown their claims, saying that there was no such thing as everyone having the gift of tongues, at the same time.



"NOW THERE ARE DIVERSITIES OF GIFTS, BUT THE SAME SPIRIT. AND THERE ARE DIFFERENCES OF ADMINISTRATION, BUT THE SAME LORD. AND THERE ARE DIVERSITIES OF OPERATIONS, BUT IT IS THE SAME GOD WHICH WORKETH ALL IN ALL. BUT THE MANIFESTATION OF THE SPIRIT IS GIVEN TO EVERY MAN TO PROFIT WITHAL. FOR TO ONE IS GIVEN BY THE SPIRIT THE WORD OF WISDOM; TO ANOTHER THE WORD OF KNOWLEDGE; TO ANOTHER FAITH BY THE SAME SPIRIT; TO ANOTHER THE GIFTS OF HEALING; TO ANOTHER THE WORKINGS OF MIRACLES; TO ANOTHER PROPHECY; TO ANOTHER DISCERNING OF SPIRITS; TO ANOTHER DIVERS KINDS OF TONGUES; TO ANOTHER THE INTERPRETATION OF TONGUES: BUT ALL THESE WORKETH THAT ONE AND SELFSAME SPIRIT, DIVIDING TO EVERY MAN SEVERALLY AS HE WILLS!" [I Cor 12:4-11]





The GIFT OF TONGUES, was administered, SEVERALLY as the Spirit was want to do, therefore, it was NEVER GIVEN TO ALL BELIEVERS - in any church, which is what the pentecostals, each claim they possessed, in Paul's day, in every church, and that they still claim to this day!



So, you see, not all pentecostals cant have the same gift, for they were never adminstered in such a way!



Not all pentecostals are in fact, even true believers, as is evident by this passage where Jesus Christ, Himself says: "NOT EVERY ONE THAT SAITH UNTO ME, LORD, WILL ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN;BUT HE THAT DOETH THE WILL OF MY FATHER WHICH IS IN HEAVEN. MANY WILL SAY TO ME IN THAT DAY, LORD, LORD, HAVE WE NOT PROPHESIED IN THY NAME? AND IN THY NAME CAST OUT DEVILS? AND IN THY NAME DONE MANY WONDERFUL WORKS? AND I WILL PROFESS UNTO THEM, I NEVER KNEW YOU: DEPART FROM ME, YE THAT WORK INIQUITY!" [Matt 7:21-23]



Please notice that Jesus did not say that He would tell them to "depart because we had a problem," or because "you backslid"; He said that He will tell them that He "NEVER KNEW THEM!" For they are not of God, and their claims to "the gifts of the Spirit," are "iniquity," to Him, and His Father, which is in heaven!

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IS "THE GIFT OF TONGUES," OF MODERN PENTECOSTALISM BIBLICAL?
Posted : 5 Sep, 2009 11:17 PM

Hi Walter,



Regarding Joel 2:28,



Mine interpretation is that the act is an continuous act not an one time act.

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Posted : 11 Nov, 2009 02:10 PM

You foolish pentacostals ignore why ......"CLOVEN TOUNGES" were needed in that first century time....EVERY SINGLE PERSON HEARD WHAT THE APOSTLES SPOKE IN THE LISTENERS NATIVE LANGUAGE....BABBLE IS NOT UNDERSTOOD BY ANYONE...SIGNS ARE FOR UNBELIEVERS....I BET YOU THINK CAIN WAS ADAMS SON.....WHAT YOU D NOT UNDERSTAND is the meaning of "NAGA" in the Hebrew language....just keep supporting false teaching and false tounges doctrine.....but you already prove you just do what your false teacher told you to do...wasted talent tounge babbler....yes Prophesy is superior....prophecy shows and teaches understanding.....here's a simple one for you simple ones...."Thou shall not kill" is wrong translation...."THOU SHALL NOT MURDER" is much different....if you won't see the simple things now.....how will you see anything when the supernatural arrives....try reading Ezekiel ch 13.....people say "I believe in Jesus" ....even when they don't know what Jesus said...

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IS "THE GIFT OF TONGUES," OF MODERN PENTECOSTALISM BIBLICAL?
Posted : 12 Nov, 2009 08:38 PM

Wow!~~~That is some real humility there Mr. who?





Anyway, I forgive you~~~:waving:

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IS "THE GIFT OF TONGUES," OF MODERN PENTECOSTALISM BIBLICAL?
Posted : 12 Nov, 2009 10:17 PM

dear folks, mr christian was here two weeks ago under the name theunknown christian.. and he disappeared after alot of mean spirited and rude talk just as you see him doin here now with his new profile..



he is just stirrin the pot now so dont let him rile you none..



im a believer in second chances if ya learn from your first times.. but hes not showin a change of heart.. still bein mean spirited.. i doubt if he will be around here long..



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