Having been in many churchs in my life, and heard teachings on who they think Yeshua (Jesus) is, not once has this chapter been taken into account WHY?
After all it is in this chapter, that we find Yeshua, and HaShem, (God) are one and the same. Should we true follows not seek to understand the one we say we follow? Is not a part of truly understanding, and loving the one we follow knowing who they are?
I have heard the Father Son and Holy Spirit teaching many times. Yet when asked, "Is not the Spirit of HaShem HaShem?" the answers never seem to fit.
I will leave you something to think on before anyone post a reply.
If we teach that every word in the Bible is true, yet wish to hold that HaShem and Yeshua are not the same, how can we say that John chapter 1 holds truth?
Wiseway posts - Matt. 28:19......."name" is singular referring to one. If the three were not one in essence it would have said "names".
Like wise according to you Wiseway, that since so many CULTS teach that YHWH (they call Him by pagan names of "god, gud or gawd" in those cultish "churches"!) is actually many Creators! Then why do they call Him singular then??? They should call Him "gods, guds or gawds" in plural then in their wonderful pagan names! Why be disrespectful to one or more of "them" if they are
separate "persons" as they claim??? Makes no sense, does it!!!
David says - So much for a false Matt 10:23 rendering “But whoever denies me before men, I also will deny before >>my me<< who is in heaven.”
Well then according to your self twisting of Scripture, of which you will be held accountable for doing, then what your saying here about yourself is - But whoever denies David supposed "truth" as a human "person" before mankind on this forum, I David also will deny before >>my me<< (which is by Davids words he posts) who is on this forum! LMBO! See how that works laddy boy?
Friends lets look at David's self (which is really NOT himself, by his own "word" here. HA!) proclaimed logic and understanding that goes on between David's "church inspired" ears.
David Posts - "So you’re saying “HaShem and Yeshua” are the “same”?? Then why do their spellings differ?? This is the first clue you’ve missed. Although it’s not unusual for a person to have 2 names, it IS unusual for a person to be >>with<< another person yet claim to be that separate person at the same time!!"
David claims "their" spelling is different and it IS! DUHHHH! Ha! So according to David's logic, possibly even outside his egyptian trinity indoctrination of his "churchyanity", is that even David's HUMAN person/soul/body and the WORDS he posts here for us to read are really two different "persons" according to David??? LMBO!
You see David's logic and comments crumble like a house of cards when he implies there are now two David's, just because they have different names! There is "David" and there his "words" LOL! Of course I have known the split personality of David's belittlement of others, when he does not agree with them many times on this forum, like supposedly (in David's mind and heart) that SOMEHOW EJ56 dislikes the egyptian trinity CULT teaching just because he challenges it with John chapter 1??? Nothing could be further from the truth of what he stated and David once again runs off another NEW poster (also ADAM7777 before!), much like his dad Richard7744 did but in a different way! David is just such a fine example of "christian" LOVE and in character and in postings that he is fast becoming my "idol" of inspiration! LOL!
For the life of David's reasoning skills, he just cannot fathom that YHWH is OMNIPRESENT and can put HIS WORD in human flesh (we humans cannot put our words in another form or body!), apart from Himself and THEN call it His Son! His ONLY "begotten" mind you and YHWH has never did it before or AFTER He put His WORD (and His Bible!) in the flesh! Its just too easy for David to just READ John chapter 1 for what it says, not to mention the MANY OTHER witnesses in the Bible teaching that the "Son" is >>>ALSO <<< "THE MIGHTY YHWH, THE EVERLASTING FATHER" found in Isaiah 9:6!!! Crickets chirping!
So according to your logic professor David, what happened to the "two persons" now in Isaiah 9:6 according to your taught indoctrination of not studying Scripture for yourself junior??? You speak of "clues" to of been "missed" (by EJ56) and I was wondering, are you really the one that is really CLUELESS now? LOL! So is it possible David my lad, that just because "the Word was >>with<<" YHWH IN THE BEGINNING OF CREATION WEEK (and before!) as we know it by the Bible, that the Father always had His WORD with Him and later put it in flesh, to die for us PAST sinners, to show us how to live a PERFECT life after our repentance and we are born again!? Not only is it possible but that is EXACTLY what John and Isaiah are telling us for just two witnesses, let alone the CONTEXT of the ENTIRE BIBLE on the subject! Good grief dude, wake up!
David finally posted on page one - "Up to now, the only thing you’ve proven is your dislike for the Trinity."
So David "Up to now, the only thing you’ve proven is" your putting words in EJ56 posts that he "dislikes" your CULTISH egyptian "trinity" by your indoctrination with no ENTIRE Bible context on your dreamy propaganda subject in your "church" of assembly! HA!
And that is ONLY page one of the damage you have done in this thread with your false doctrine David that I quoted you on, with ZERO Bible verses to support your egyptian gods!
And Quiz, where have you been???
You think people are as blind as you quizzy, of course he left this corrupted forum! Wow, quizzy, you "bowed out" long ago in reasoning and logic as a Christian "person" but you are still here in WORD! Are there two of you??? LOL! And "where have you been" quizzy that you claim that SAME indoctrination as David and what "church" CULT taught you that??? Since you claim ONLY one is ALMIGHTY and the other is not, THEREFORE (LOL!) one is just a "Son", then where did He come from, maybe The Father YHWH made His "Son" from "an eye, nose, left leg, right arm, or left great toe" as you questioned yourself in another thread? Did you ever answer yourself quizzy of all those questions before and if so which one of you answered you? LMBO!
Nighty night my indoctrinated lads! Always remember to let your "churches" think for you! LOL!
Funny Flat Teddy of the Flat Earth Comedy Hour!!!! Welcome baaaasack!!!! I see you made it back from the other end of the earth!! Did ya bring along any flat earth jokes to share?
Teddy when you have such harrowing experiences like falling off the earth’s edge, you need a nap before breaking loose on the forums.
But hey Teddy, I’m just glad there was a pretty mermaid swimming near the waterfalls that happened to catch ya just in the nick of time before the Romulan Miner took you waaaaay back in time. WHEW!!!! that was a CLOSE close call !!!
Take a time out from your Flat Earth Comedy Central and let’s talk some Trinity.
I challenged EJ to give me skinny on his anti—trinny spinny to start the discussion but he chose to run away instead.
But Teddy, I know you ain’t afraid a NUTIN’ cause you took a dive off the edge of the flat earth and lived to tell about it. Now let’s see if you can dive in to disproving the trinity. Give me your best and STRONGEST shot against belief in the Trinity there Teddy!!!
and the other is not, THEREFORE (LOL!) one is just a "Son", then where did He come from, maybe The Father YHWH made His "Son" from "an eye, nose, left leg, right arm, or left great toe" as you questioned yourself in another thread?