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What is: "The Bible"?
Posted : 10 Dec, 2019 05:04 PM

The Bible, the justice system and common sense dictates a person cannot testify on their own behalf. Therefore the Bible cannot testify on its own behalf.------------------------------ Since the New Testament did not exist at the time of its own writing, it is impossible for anything in the New Testament to testify about the New Testament. ----------------------------------- The Bible isn't a Book, but a collection of books by different authors. Therefore authors may testify for another book as long as they weren't the author of that book------------------- Where legitimate testimony exists, what is being testified to? For example Psalm 119 may testify about Torah; "the word is perfect" but that does not equate to inerrant, but rather, perfect for the job it is intended for.----------------------------

The bottom line is the Bible is a extremely valuable written record by and about the relationship with God.our physical and spiritual ancestors had. The Bible is a God inspired tool designed to bring us into relationship with the "Living Word" rather than bring us into relationship with a Paper Pope.

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Posted : 11 Dec, 2019 06:19 AM

All scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in rightousness.



2Timothy 3:16

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Posted : 11 Dec, 2019 06:41 AM

Prophetic,

You write :

"I Corinthians 9:21: I am under **CHRIST'S LAW**!!"



I have shown you incontestable proof that you are under Paul's law. I only ask for proof of Paul's authority to write new Commandments equal and superseding the Commands God delivered through Moses and Jesus.



You, being unable to provide such proof, wildly throw a multitude of Scripture out hoping something will stick.



Providing just two Scripture verses would suffice. If you knew what you were talking about, you'd know there was none. But since you don't know why you believe what you believe, you just wildly flail your arms hoping to hit something.



Come on Prophetic, live up to your name, provide just two verses.

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Posted : 11 Dec, 2019 06:48 AM

Cupcake;

2 Timothy 3:16 was written before the New Testament was written and complied. Therefore Paul was writing about the Old Testament.



This is not dismissing the NT or Paul, only pointing out the truth of the matter, proving there is no Scriptural evidence for Paul's authority to write new Commandents equal to and superseding the Commands delivered through Moses and Jesus.



If you have evidence; please post it.

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Posted : 11 Dec, 2019 07:13 AM

Chuckels just wanted me to show two cIn the New Testament **EVERY DAY** is the **LORD'S DAY** especially **TODAY**!! So I will just name 3.



Acts 2:44-46: All the believers were together and had everything in common. They sold property and possessions to give to everyone who had need. **EVERY DAY** they continued to meet together!!



Hebrews 3:12,13: See to it brothers and sisters that none of you has a sinful, unbelieving heart that turns away from the living God. But **ENCOURAGE ONE ANOTHER **DAILY**, as long as it is called **TODAY** so that none of you may be hardened by sins deceitfulness!



Exodus 31:14-16: Observe the Sabbath, because it is holy to you. Anyone who desecrates it is to be put to death; those who do **ANY WORK** on that day must be **CUT OFF** from their people... Whoever does **ANY WORK** on the Sabbath day is to be **PUT TO DEATH**!



Exodus 35:2,3; Whoever does **ANY WORK** on the Sabbath must be **PUT TO DEATH**. Do not **LIGHT A FIRE** in any of your dwellings on the Sabbath day.



This was possible in Israel since it is about the same latitude of warm South Carolina. But anyone in the frigid parts of the earth must freeze to death in the winter since electricity would not be invented until over 2,000 years after this commandment was given!!



Matthew 12:1-12: Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry and began to pick some heads of grain and eat them. When the Pharisees saw this, the said to Him, "Look your disciples are doing what is **UNLAWFUL ON THE SABBATH**. Jesus answered, "Haven't you heard of what David did when he and his companions were hungry? He entered the house of God, and he and his companions ate the consecrated bread--which was not lawful for them to do, but only for the priests... If you had known what these words mean, 'I desire mercy not sacrifice, you would not have condemned the innocent. For the Son of Man is **LORD OF THE SABBATH**!" Going from that place, Jesus went into their synagogue, and a man with a shriveled hand was there. Looking for a reason to being charges against Jesus, they asked Him, "IS IT LAWFUL TO HEAL ON THE SABBATH?" Jesus said to the, "If any of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath?" Jesus said to them, "If any of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will you not take hold of it and lift it out? Therefore it is lawful to do good {*WORK*} on the Sabbath!"



John 5:16-18: So because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath, the Jewish leaders began to persecute Him. In his defense Jesus said to them. "My Father is always at His work to this very day, and **I TOO AM **WORKING**!" For this reason they tried all the more to kill Him; not only was **HE BREAKING THE SABBATH**, but He was even calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God.



John 9:16: The Pharisees said of Jesus, "This man is not from God , for He does **NOT KEEP THE SABBATH**!"



Jesus also eliminated all 26 OT **DEATH SENTENCES FOR SIN** by declaring "He who is without sin cast the first stone I John 7:7!!



Mark 7:18,19: Jesus says, "Are you so dull?" He asked. "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him 'unclean'? For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." In saying this. Jesus declared ALL FOODS "CLEAN!"

Then Jesus said, What comes out of a man is what makes him **UNCLEAN**. For within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come rom inside and make a man **UNCLEAN**!"



Colossians 2:16,17: Do dot let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard a special festival, a New Moon celebration or a **SABBATH DAY**! These are a **SHADOW** of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found **IN CHRIST**!!

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Posted : 11 Dec, 2019 07:21 AM

Prophetic,

You are wasting everyone's time and space. Please post verses applicable. Verses which state Paul had the authority to write Commandments that supersede the Commandments delivered through Moses and Jesus.



Or



Admit you have none.

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Posted : 11 Dec, 2019 07:28 AM

Chuckels just wanted me to show two OT laws changed by Jesus in the New Testament * So I will just name 3.



Acts 2:44-46: All the believers were together and had everything in common. They sold property and possessions to give to everyone who had need. **EVERY DAY** they continued to meet together!!



Hebrews 3:12,13: See to it brothers and sisters that none of you has a sinful, unbelieving heart that turns away from the living God. But **ENCOURAGE ONE ANOTHER **DAILY**, as long as it is called **TODAY** so that none of you may be hardened by sins deceitfulness!



Exodus 31:14-16: Observe the Sabbath, because it is holy to you. Anyone who desecrates it is to be put to death; those who do **ANY WORK** on that day must be **CUT OFF** from their people... Whoever does **ANY WORK** on the Sabbath day is to be **PUT TO DEATH**!



Exodus 35:2,3; Whoever does **ANY WORK** on the Sabbath must be **PUT TO DEATH**. Do not **LIGHT A FIRE** in any of your dwellings on the Sabbath day.



This was possible in Israel since it is about the same latitude of warm South Carolina. But anyone in the frigid parts of the earth must freeze to death in the winter since electricity would not be invented until over 2,000 years after this commandment was given!!



Matthew 12:1-12: Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry and began to pick some heads of grain and eat them. When the Pharisees saw this, the said to Him, "Look your disciples are doing what is **UNLAWFUL ON THE SABBATH**. Jesus answered, "Haven't you heard of what David did when he and his companions were hungry? He entered the house of God, and he and his companions ate the consecrated bread--which was not lawful for them to do, but only for the priests... If you had known what these words mean, 'I desire mercy not sacrifice, you would not have condemned the innocent. For the Son of Man is **LORD OF THE SABBATH**!" Going from that place, Jesus went into their synagogue, and a man with a shriveled hand was there. Looking for a reason to being charges against Jesus, they asked Him, "IS IT LAWFUL TO HEAL ON THE SABBATH?" Jesus said to the, "If any of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath?" Jesus said to them, "If any of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will you not take hold of it and lift it out? Therefore it is lawful to do good {*WORK*} on the Sabbath!"



John 5:16-18: So because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath, the Jewish leaders began to persecute Him. In his defense Jesus said to them. "My Father is always at His work to this very day, and **I TOO AM **WORKING**!" For this reason they tried all the more to kill Him; not only was **HE BREAKING THE SABBATH**, but He was even calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God.



John 9:16: The Pharisees said of Jesus, "This man is not from God , for He does **NOT KEEP THE SABBATH**!"



Jesus also eliminated all 26 OT **DEATH SENTENCES FOR SIN** by declaring "He who is without sin cast the first stone in John 7:7!!



Mark 7:18-23: Jesus says "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him 'unclean'? For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." In saying this. Jesus declared ALL FOODS "CLEAN!"

Then Jesus said, What comes out of a man is what makes him **UNCLEAN**. For within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come rom inside and make a man **UNCLEAN**!"



Colossians 2:16,17: Do dot let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard a special festival, a New Moon celebration or a **SABBATH DAY**! These are a **SHADOW** of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found **IN CHRIST**!!

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Posted : 11 Dec, 2019 07:32 AM

Paul did not teach commands that supersede Jesus teachings.

Paul was an apostle called by Jesus to teach Jesus commands. As for s Moses law, we Believers, are under Grace by our Faith in Jesus .

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Posted : 11 Dec, 2019 08:52 AM

The biggest con that someone can fall for is to start listening to anyone telling them that God's Word isn't as He says it is. That was the serpent's con in the beginning, and we know the result back then, so no reason to fall for it now.



Gen 3:2-5 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.



In fact, that is still Satan's game. We see him challenging other aspects of the Bible, including other OT scripture.



Matt 4:6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.



Matt 4:7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.



Satan wasn't pulling that out of nowhere, he was literally speaking from Psalm, but trying to be deceitful about it.



Psa 91:12 They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.



Additionally, David was one of the examples we see in the OT of someone being directly provoked by Satan, so it's no surprised that he would be using such a quote.



1 Ch 21:1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

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Posted : 11 Dec, 2019 09:24 AM

Our great God and Savior Jesus Christ even changed the Old Testament law of loving your neighbor as yourself!!



John 13;34,35: Jesus says, "A **NEW COMMAND** I give you: **LOVE ONE ANOTHER, AS I HAVE LOVED YOU**! As I have loved you so you **MUST** love one another. By this everyone will know that you are My disciples!"



John 15:12-14: Jesus says, "My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this: **TO LAY ONES'S LIFE FOR ONE'S FRIENDS**! You are My friends **IF** you do what I command!"

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Posted : 11 Dec, 2019 10:31 AM

Acts 9:18 kjv

And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales; and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.





Note: Paul had a conversion and was enlighten by God !



Unless you are "born again" you cannot see Truth. It's all from God opening your eyes. You're baptized into God's Spirit.

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