Ben Chayyim Masoretic text Vs. Rudolf Kittel Masoretic Text.
Posted : 25 Sep, 2019 02:49 PM
The KJV is a MAJORITY text. Translated from the Ben Chayyim Hebrew Masoretic Text.
The MINORITY text, translated from the Rudolf Kittel is corrupted.
http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/m-m.html
It is a fact that ENTIRE passages have been removed in the MINORITY text based off the Rudolf Kittel revised Masoretic text in the NIV and other modern translations.
The modern translations have many footnotes indicating changes or some verses will be missing or demoted .
Let me ask you , is that not confusing ? Does that make you question the very WORD of God that he exalts above his very NAME? Psalm 138:2
No wonder! Satan first questioned the WORD of God in the garden...Hath God said???
2 Timothy 3:16 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:17 that the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
To this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit and trembles at My word.”
Isaiah 66:2.
Bible hub -"Through is blood" missing in Colossians 1:14!
https://biblehub.com/colossians/1-14.htm
That is just ONE example!
Doesn't look to be a "conspiracy" if it is proven!
Ben Chayyim Masoretic text Vs. Rudolf Kittel Masoretic Text.
Posted : 3 Oct, 2019 12:07 AM
The arguments you used for maintaining that God oversaw the work being done by KJV translators could just as easily apply to any other group of modern translators.
The KJV translators never claimed special Holy Spirit inspiration, only certain KJV onlyist’s claim that.
You inadvertently created a degree of ambiguity for the word “translate” when you cited various biblical passages in which the word appears. But God’s “infallible acts of translating” and men’s “fallible acts of translating” are not synonymous.
In addition, you committed the fallacy of equivocation (a reasoning failure) by mistakenly appealing to the word “translate” to make your case for human translation but you failed to account for the words contextual range of meaning for each of the biblical passages you cited.
Ben Chayyim Masoretic text Vs. Rudolf Kittel Masoretic Text.
Posted : 3 Oct, 2019 05:38 AM
Ridiculous quote by KJVonly:
"The one true God has **ONE TRUE BOOK** {KJVonly}
There are certainly some errors in all of the translations of God's Word in the Koine Greek which is inspired by God. By far the worst example is: After Mark 16:8 all of the major translations **EXCEPT THE KING JAMES VERSION** have a footnote which reads: "The earliest manuscripts and some other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16:9-20."
And Mark 16:16-18: Wrongly states: "Whoever believes and is **BAPTIZED WILL BE SAVED** .... And these signs will accompany those who believe: In My name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands, and they will **DRINK DEADLY POISON, it will not hurt them at all; they will **PLACE THEIR HANDS** on sick people, and they will get well??"
By comparing other Scripture with these mistakes we know that Baptismal Regeneration is wrong and even in the early church not every saint spoke in other languages. and there is not one other Scripture that tells us to **DRINK DEADLY POISON** and to **PICK UP SNAKES** some of which are deadly. There is also a Scripture which contradicts **PLACING HANDS ON SICK PEOPLE WILL MAKE THEM WELL** in James 5:14,15!
Of course those denominations which believe in Baptismal Regeneration and many Charismatic churches believe these verses are the inspired words of God thus agreeing with the KJV version???
And so the KJV version is the only version that implies that the extremely Satanic Mark 16:16-18 are the inspired Words of God. The KJV version is also written in 16th Century English which is very hard for 20th Century Christians to understand.
The origin of the term **EASTER** for the feast of Christ’s Resurrection has been popularly considered to be from the Anglo-Saxon **EASTRE**, a goddess of spring and the evil Queen of Heaven. {Read Jeremiah 44:22-25!}
The KJV version is the only version that translates the Greek word **PASCHA** as **EASTER** in Acts 12:4 and all other major translations correctly translate the Greek word **PASCHA** as **PASSOVER**!! {Read Jeremiah 44::22-25!}
"The earliest manuscripts and some other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16:9-20." Which the KJV version claims is the inspired Word of God???
The KJV defenders also quote Colossians 1:14 which includes the blood of Christ in the KJV version and in all the other major translations the blood of Christ is not mentioned in Colossians 1:14. However the KJV version includes many verses which are not used in the most ancient manuscripts and which are rightfully not accepted by all the other major translations.
However, the blood of Christ for the forgiveness of sins is mentioned many times in the earliest Greek manuscripts such as:
Matthew 26:28: Jesus says, "This is **MY BLOOD** of the covenant, which is poured out for many **FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS**!"
Hebrews 9:12: He entered the Most Holy Place once for all by **HIS OWN BLOOD**, having obtained **ETERNAL REDEMPTION**!
Hebrews 9:22; 26-28: The law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with **BLOOD**, and without the shedding of **BLOOD** **THERE IS NO FORGIVENESS**.... But now He has appeared **ONCE FOR ALL** at the end of the ages to do away with sin **BY THE SACRIFICE OF HIMSELF**!! Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, and Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people, and He will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him!!
Ephesians 2:13: But now in Christ Jesus you who were once were far away have been brought near **THROUGH THE BLOOD OF CHRIST**!!
Romans 3:21-25: But now a righteousness from God, **APART FROM THE LAW**, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes **THROUGH FAITH** in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by **HIS GRACE** through the **REDEMPTION** that came by Christ Jesus. God presented Him as a **SACRIFICE OF ATONEMENT**, **THROUGH FAITH IN HIS BLOOD**!!
Colossians 1:15-20: He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by Him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities, all things were created by Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. And He is the **HEAD OF HIS BODY, THE CHURCH**; He is the beginning and the firstborn from the dead, so that is **EVERYTHING HE MIGHT HAVE THE SUPREMACY**. For God was pleased to have all His fullness dwell in Him, and through Him to reconcile to Himself all things, whether things **ON EARTH** or things in heaven, by making peace **THROUGH HIS BLOOD**, shed on the cross!!
Ephesians 1:3-8; 11: Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with **EVERY** spiritual blessing in Christ. For He chose us in Him before the creation of the world to be holy and **BLAMELESS** in His sight. In love He predestined us to be adopted as His sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with His pleasure and will--to the praise of His **GLORIOUS GRACE**, which He has freely given us in the One He loves. In Him we have **REDEMPTION THROUGH HIS BLOOD**, **THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS**, in accordance the riches of God's grace that He lavished on us with all wisdom and understanding!!
I Peter 1:18,19: For you know that was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were **REDEEMED** from the empty way of life handed down to you by your forefathers, but with the **PRECIOUS BLOOD OF CHRIST**, Lamb without blemish or defect!!
Revelation 1:4,5: Grace and peace to you from Him who is, and who was, and who is to come and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful Witness... To Him who loves us and freed us from our sins **BY HIS BLOOD**!!
NOTE: Jesus Christ our Savior is called the **LAMB** of God **30 TIMES** in the book of Revelation because He did away with all lamb sacrifices for sin by the sacrifice of Himself!!
Revelation 5:6,9: Then I saw a **LAMB**, looking as if it had been slain, standing in the center of the throne...You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals because You were slain, and **WITH YOUR BLOOD** You purchased men for God from every tribe and language and people and nation!!
Revelation 12:11: They overcame him by the **BLOOD OF THE LAMB** and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death!!
Revelation 7:14: These are they who have come out of the Great Tribulation, they have was their robes and made them white in the **BLOOD OF THE LAMB**!!
Romans 5:6-10: You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless. Christ died for the ungodly. Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous man, though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die. But God demonstrates His love for us in this: While we were still sinners Christ died for us. Since we are now justified **BY HIS BLOOD**, how much more will we be saved from God's wrath through Him! When we were God's enemies, we were reconciled to Him **THROUGH THE DEATH OF HIS SON**!!
Ben Chayyim Masoretic text Vs. Rudolf Kittel Masoretic Text.
Posted : 3 Oct, 2019 04:12 PM
David quote:
The arguments you used for maintaining that God oversaw the work being done by KJV translators could just as easily apply to any other group of modern translators.
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It does as long as they have a love for Christ and the truth. Did people have a love for the truth when Paul was preaching and the church was just being established? NO.
2 Timothy 4:2 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.
1Timothy 4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
David quote:
The KJV translators never claimed special Holy Spirit inspiration, only certain KJV onlyist’s claim that.
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No but it was others before them that were martyred for their translations. God did have a hand in English translations as Tyndale's dying words confirm. If they were counterfeit translations, do you think he would have been martyred and the Bible published later with his translations? King Henry VIII killed a man , then turned around and did what this murdered man in his last prayer to God asked for!! Tyndale wanted to produce a Bible that the common plowboy could understand. These were Oxford and Cambridge men of higher education! Tyndale was mostly Oxford educated, earning his Master of Arts degree in 1515. That would be like you David, with your higher learning, eloquent speech trying to translate for simple people!!
The King James Version translation effort was based primarily on the Bishops' Bible, but the translators also used the Tyndale, Matthew, Coverdale, Great, and Geneva Bibles; and because many of the translators were skilled in both Hebrew and Greek they could refer to the ancient manuscripts. It is almost certain that no group of Bible scholars before or since has ever been as thoroughly fit for their task as was the Authorized 1611 translation team. These men were so dedicated to their task of translating the Bible into the common language of the people that they included the following in the Bible's preface entitled, "The Translators to the Reader:"
"Translation it is that openeth the window, to let in the light; that breaketh the shell, that we may eat the kernel; that putteth aside the curtain, that we may look into the most Holy place; that removeth the cover of the well, that we may come by the water, even as Jacob rolled away the stone from the mouth of the well, by which means the flocks of Laban were watered."
God commands us to "Test all things" (1 Thessalonians 5:21).
Are other modern translations exalting Christ Jesus? I will prove that they are not. It isn't rocket science to understand that what you are reading is counterfeit in comparison to the majority text that the KJV 1611 used along with the other bibles mentioned above.
Ben Chayyim Masoretic text Vs. Rudolf Kittel Masoretic Text.
Posted : 3 Oct, 2019 05:34 PM
My argument is not against good men like Tyndale and others. I’ve never referred to them in any way other than homage. But none of them held to an unsound ”onlyism” mentality.
My argument is strictly against “onlyism” in this case, KJV onlyism.
Ben Chayyim Masoretic text Vs. Rudolf Kittel Masoretic Text.
Posted : 3 Oct, 2019 06:39 PM
You introduced a site comparing differences between the KJV with other modern translations.
The chart was intended obviously to demonize the work of men dedicated to the service of God and who held to the same belief as the original KJV translators. They wanted to make the word of God available and easy to read for the masses.
Unfortunately, KJV onlyist have been at war with modern translators and translations for several years now. But KJV onlyists have inadvertently demonized God’s Word.
They allege that earlier more reliable manuscripts from which modern translations came have been “tampered” with and are therefore “corrupt”. But where’s the prove of this “corruption”?? Well, KJVO’s refer you to the more inferior later manuscripts! If the earlier more reliable texts differ from the later texts then the earlier texts must be “corrupted”
In other words, if a more reliable earlier manuscript differs from a much later manuscript, the older one that’s actually closer historically to the original copy must be suspect. Yeah, that’s right!! That’s what they believe!!
Let’s think about this for a moment!
So, let’s suppose we have an person who lived the same time as Jesus. Eventually, this person writes about everything he saw Jesus do.
But 1000 years later, another person writes about Jesus.
Now, if you wanted the most accurate written account of who Jesus was and what he did, who would you choose as an authority?
Yes, that’s right. of course, you would choose the person who was with Jesus!!!
YES YES YES!! You would choose the person closer to the historical person or event !!
But who would the KJVO’s choose?? Yep, sadly, the KJVO would choose the guy that came along 1000 years late.
Ben Chayyim Masoretic text Vs. Rudolf Kittel Masoretic Text.
Posted : 3 Oct, 2019 08:57 PM
Ridiculous quote by KJVonly:
"The one true God has **ONE TRUE BOOK** {KJVonly}
There are certainly some errors in all of the translations of God's Word in the Koine Greek which is inspired by God. By far the worst example is: After Mark 16:8 all of the major translations **EXCEPT THE KING JAMES VERSION** have a footnote which reads: "The earliest manuscripts and some other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16:9-20."
And Mark 16:16-18: Wrongly states: "Whoever believes and is **BAPTIZED WILL BE SAVED** .... And these signs will accompany those who believe: In My name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands, and they will **DRINK DEADLY POISON, it will not hurt them at all; they will **PLACE THEIR HANDS** on sick people, and they will get well??"
By comparing other Scripture with these mistakes we know that Baptismal Regeneration is wrong and even in the early church not every saint spoke in other languages. and there is not one other Scripture that tells us to **DRINK DEADLY POISON** and to **PICK UP SNAKES** some of which are deadly. There is also a Scripture which contradicts **PLACING HANDS ON SICK PEOPLE WILL MAKE THEM WELL** in James 5:14,15!
Of course those denominations which believe in Baptismal Regeneration and many Charismatic churches believe these verses are the inspired words of God thus agreeing with the KJV version???
And so the KJV version is the only version that implies that the extremely Satanic Mark 16:16-18 are the inspired Words of God. The KJV version is also written in 16th Century English which is very hard for 20th Century Christians to understand.
The origin of the term **EASTER** for the feast of Christ’s Resurrection has been popularly considered to be from the Anglo-Saxon **EASTRE**, a goddess of spring and the evil Queen of Heaven. {Read Jeremiah 44:22-25!}
The KJV version is the only version that translates the Greek word **PASCHA** as **EASTER** in Acts 12:4 and all other major translations correctly translate the Greek word **PASCHA** as **PASSOVER**!! {Read Jeremiah 44::22-25!}
"The earliest manuscripts and some other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16:9-20." Which the KJV version claims is the inspired Word of God???
The KJV defenders also quote Colossians 1:14 which includes the blood of Christ in the KJV version and in all the other major translations the blood of Christ is not mentioned in Colossians 1:14. However the KJV version includes many verses which are not used in the most ancient manuscripts and which are rightfully not accepted by all the other major translations.
However, the blood of Christ for the forgiveness of sins is mentioned many times in the earliest Greek manuscripts such as:
Matthew 26:28: Jesus says, "This is **MY BLOOD** of the covenant, which is poured out for many **FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS**!"
Hebrews 9:12: He entered the Most Holy Place once for all by **HIS OWN BLOOD**, having obtained **ETERNAL REDEMPTION**!
Hebrews 9:22; 26-28: The law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with **BLOOD**, and without the shedding of **BLOOD** **THERE IS NO FORGIVENESS**.... But now He has appeared **ONCE FOR ALL** at the end of the ages to do away with sin **BY THE SACRIFICE OF HIMSELF**!! Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, and Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people, and He will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him!!
Ephesians 2:13: But now in Christ Jesus you who were once were far away have been brought near **THROUGH THE BLOOD OF CHRIST**!!
Romans 3:21-25: But now a righteousness from God, **APART FROM THE LAW**, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes **THROUGH FAITH** in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by **HIS GRACE** through the **REDEMPTION** that came by Christ Jesus. God presented Him as a **SACRIFICE OF ATONEMENT**, **THROUGH FAITH IN HIS BLOOD**!!
Colossians 1:15-20: He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by Him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities, all things were created by Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. And He is the **HEAD OF HIS BODY, THE CHURCH**; He is the beginning and the firstborn from the dead, so that is **EVERYTHING HE MIGHT HAVE THE SUPREMACY**. For God was pleased to have all His fullness dwell in Him, and through Him to reconcile to Himself all things, whether things **ON EARTH** or things in heaven, by making peace **THROUGH HIS BLOOD**, shed on the cross!!
Ephesians 1:3-8; 11: Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with **EVERY** spiritual blessing in Christ. For He chose us in Him before the creation of the world to be holy and **BLAMELESS** in His sight. In love He predestined us to be adopted as His sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with His pleasure and will--to the praise of His **GLORIOUS GRACE**, which He has freely given us in the One He loves. In Him we have **REDEMPTION THROUGH HIS BLOOD**, **THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS**, in accordance the riches of God's grace that He lavished on us with all wisdom and understanding!!
I Peter 1:18,19: For you know that was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were **REDEEMED** from the empty way of life handed down to you by your forefathers, but with the **PRECIOUS BLOOD OF CHRIST**, Lamb without blemish or defect!!
Revelation 1:4,5: Grace and peace to you from Him who is, and who was, and who is to come and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful Witness... To Him who loves us and freed us from our sins **BY HIS BLOOD**!!
NOTE: Jesus Christ our Savior is called the **LAMB** of God **30 TIMES** in the book of Revelation because He did away with all lamb sacrifices for sin by the sacrifice of Himself!!
Revelation 5:6,9: Then I saw a **LAMB**, looking as if it had been slain, standing in the center of the throne...You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals because You were slain, and **WITH YOUR BLOOD** You purchased men for God from every tribe and language and people and nation!!
Revelation 12:11: They overcame him by the **BLOOD OF THE LAMB** and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death!!
Revelation 7:14: These are they who have come out of the Great Tribulation, they have was their robes and made them white in the **BLOOD OF THE LAMB**!!
Romans 5:6-10: You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless. Christ died for the ungodly. Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous man, though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die. But God demonstrates His love for us in this: While we were still sinners Christ died for us. Since we are now justified **BY HIS BLOOD**, how much more will we be saved from God's wrath through Him! When we were God's enemies, we were reconciled to Him **THROUGH THE DEATH OF HIS SON**!!
Ben Chayyim Masoretic text Vs. Rudolf Kittel Masoretic Text.
Posted : 5 Oct, 2019 05:08 PM
David quote:
But who would the KJVO’s choose?? Yep, sadly, the KJVO would choose the guy that came along 1000 years late.
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The NASB is widely regarded as the most literally translated of 20th century bible translations. It is a revision of the ASV of 1901. of which The Amplified Bible (published by the Lockman Foundation) is based on the American Standard Version of that same year. This translation was a alternative of the RSV, itself a revision of the ASV. Still with me? What a brain twister.The Hebrew text used for this translation was the Kittel Biblia Herbraica and the dead sea scrolls.The ben Asher text was adopted by Kittel for his third edition of Biblia Hebraica in 1937. The Ben Asher uses the Leningrad Manuscript or codex. The codex was copied in Cairo from manuscripts written by Aaron ben Moses ben Asher. It has been claimed to be a product of the Asher scriptorium itself; however, there is no evidence that Asher ever saw it. In its vocalization system (vowel points and cantillation) it is considered by scholars to be the most faithful representative of ben Asher's tradition apart from the Aleppo Codex (edited by ben Asher himself). Its letter-text is not superb, however, and contradicts it's own masoretic apparatus in many hundreds of places. The Biblia Herbraica was consulted for the 1995 revision. For Greek, Eberhard Nestle's Novum Testamentum Graece was used. The 23rd edition of the 1971 original and the 26th in the 1995 revision. From Nestle Allands website: Nestle took the three leading scholarly editions of the Greek New Testament at that time by Tischendorf, Westcott/Hort and Weymouth as a basis. (After 1901 he replaced the latter with Bernhard Weiss 1894/1900 edition.) Where their textual decisions differed from each other Nestle chose for his own text the variant which was preferred by two of the editions included, while the variant of the third was put into the apparatus.
Rudolph Kittels Biblia Hebraica, the Greek text of Westcott and Hort, and the 23rd edition of the Nestle Greek New Testament as well as the best Hebrew and Greek lexicons available at the time.Cognate languages,Tischendorf. the Dead Sea Scrolls, and other Greek works were also consulted.as you can see it is a soupy mix. Note how prominently the ESV acknowledges this text in its introduction:
The ESV is based on the Masoretic text of the Hebrew Bible as found in Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia (2nd ed., 1983), and on the Greek text in the 1993 editions of the Greek New Testament (4th corrected ed.), published by the United Bible Societies (UBS), and Novum Testamentum Graece (27th ed.), edited by Nestle and Aland. The currently renewed respect among Old Testament scholars for the Masoretic text is reflected in the ESV’s attempt, wherever possible, to translate difficult Hebrew passages as they stand in the Masoretic text rather than resorting to emendations or to finding an alternative reading in the ancient versions. In exceptional, difficult cases, the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Septuagint, the Samaritan Pentateuch, the Syriac Peshitta, the Latin Vulgate, and other sources were consulted to shed possible light on the text, or, if necessary, to support a divergence from the Masoretic text.
Who are Westcott and Hort? After their deaths , their Sons published their personal letters which are still available on Amazon. They were evolutionists, did not believe Jesus was equal with God, they believed that man is divine, no bodily resurrection of Jesus, Heaven was just a state and not a place, that scripture is not inspired and therefore not infallable just to name a few. It is no surprise that although both men were liberal anglican bishops, they hid their secret unitarian views because only members of the church of England could be college professors or hold a government job. This was revealed with the publication of their private letters. As we proceed you will notice that the modern bibles do not exalt the Lord Jesus Christ. The KJV onlyism movement just points out the corruption of the modern bibles , they are not responsible for people's unbelief, this is due to the corrupt translations. Even some textual critics themselves have lost their faith, like Bart Ehrman who now writes books about the bible in an effort to make other people become agnostic like him. What about Kittel? Rudolph Kittel's son Gerhard was a theologian to Hitler. Gerhard Kittel, eliminated mention of the special role of the Jewish people.To update it he oversaw changes to words such as “Messiah” and “hallelujah”, and renamed “Jerusalem” as the ‘eternal city of God’. ‘Honour your Fuhrer and master’ and ‘keep your blood pure and your honour holy’ were added to the 10 commandments.
Importantly, during the 1930s both Kittels are said to have hailed Hitler’s rise to power as “a blessing from God”. Both became highly influential in intellectual circles in Germany. In fact, the younger Kittel became Hitler’s “high priest” of religious propaganda, providing the “theological basis” for resolving the “Jewish question”. Robert P. Ericksen, author of Theologians Under Hitler (New Haven, Yale University Press 1985 pp 45, 207, 86-88), who received the 1987 Merit of Distinction Award from the International Centre for Holocaust Studies for this work, wrote that Gerhard Kittel’s writings between 1937 and 1945 were highly instrumental in causing the death of millions of Jews in Germany and the territories it conquered in the Second World War. 'He established a solid ‘Christian’ foundation for opposition to the Jews’. Kittel also proclaimed himself “the first authority in Germany on the scientific consideration of the Jewish question”. Ericksen records: Kittel and a group of twelve leading theologians and pastors issued a proclamation that Nazism is ‘a call of God’ and they thanked Adolf Hitler As we progress, you will see by a careful comparison of scriptures that there are some changes and omissions that should be considered as you weigh this matter of what bible to choose to use for study.
Ben Chayyim Masoretic text Vs. Rudolf Kittel Masoretic Text.
Posted : 5 Oct, 2019 05:16 PM
Luke 9:55 New American Standard Bible (NASB)55 But He turned and rebuked them, [[a]and said, “You do not know what kind of spirit you are of;Footnotes: Luke 9:55 Early mss do not contain bracketed portion.
Now for the AKJV
Luke 9:55 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
Ephesians 1:13 New American Standard Bible (NASB)13 In [a]Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation—having also [b]believed, you were sealed in [c]Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,Footnotes:Ephesians 1:13 Lit whom Ephesians 1:13 Or believed in Him, you were sealed Ephesians 1:13 Lit whom
Ephesians 1:13 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)13 in whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise
Colossians 1:14 Amplified Bible (AMP)14 in whom we have redemption [because of His sacrifice, resulting in] the forgiveness of our sins [and the cancellation of sins’ penalty].
Colossians 1:14 New International Version (NIV)14 in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.AKJV got it right~
Colossians 1:14 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)14 in whom we have redemption >>>through his blood<<<<<, even the forgiveness of sins:
1 Corinthians 1:18 New American Standard Bible (NASB)The Wisdom of God18 For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who [a]are perishing, but to us who [b]are being saved it is the power of God.1 Corinthians 1:18 Christian Standard Bible (CSB)Christ the Power and Wisdom of God18 For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but it is the power of God to us who are being saved.
What does my Geneva and AKJV and Tyndale bible say?? Let's see...1 Corinthians 1:18 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)18 For that [a]preaching of the cross is to them that perish, foolishness: but unto us, which >>>are saved<<<, it is the [b]power of God.Footnotes:1 Corinthians 1:18 The preaching of Christ crucified, or the kinds of speech which we use.1 Corinthians 1:18 It is that wherein he declareth his marvelous power in >>>saving his elect<<<, which would not so evidently appear, if it hanged upon any help of man: for so man might attribute that to himself, >>>which is proper only to the cross of Christ.<<<
1 Corinthians 1:18 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which>>> are saved <<<it is the power of God.
Tyndale 1534 translation:For Christ sent me not to baptyse but to preache ye gospell not with wysdome of wordes lest the crosse of Christ shuld have bene made of none effecte.For ye preachinge of the crosse is to them yt perisshe folishnes: but vnto vs which >>>are saved<<< it is ye power of God.For it is written: I will destroye the wysdome of the wyse and will cast awaye the vnderstondinge of the prudet.
Paul is speaking here:2 Corinthians 2:15 New International Version (NIV)15 For >>we<< are to God the pleasing aroma of Christ among those who >>are being saved<<< and those who are perishing.
So was Paul saved or not? What about justification? Seems there are only 2 camps not 3. The saved or unsaved. Not being saved people.
Acts 2:30 New International Version (NIV)30 But he was a prophet and knew that God had promised him on oath that he would place >>>one of his descendants<<< on his throne.AKJV 1611:
Therefore being a Prophet, and knowing that God had sworne with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loines, according to the flesh, hee would >>>raise vp Christ<<<, to sit on his throne:
-- CATHOLIC BIBLE VERSE :Acts 2:30 New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (NRSVCE)30 Since he was a prophet, he knew that God had sworn with an oath to him that he would put one of >>>his descendants<<<< on his throne.
Not surprised as the Pope thinks he is God. Doesn't want competition. Acts 2:30 New Century Version (NCV)30 He was a prophet and knew God had promised him that he would make>>> a person from David’s family a king<<<< just as he was.[a] Well, hey that could be you Little David!!! Or Parrot or GSNW or Teddyhug!!! No mention of Christ though..hmmmm.
1 Timothy 3:16 New Century Version (NCV)16 Without doubt, the secret of our life of worship is great:He[a] was shown to us in a human body,
proved right in spirit,
and seen by angels.
He was proclaimed to the nations,
believed in by the world,
and taken up in glory.1 Timothy 3:16 New American Standard Bible (NASB)16 By common confession, great is the mystery of godliness:He who was revealed in the flesh,
Was [a]vindicated [b]in the Spirit,
Seen by angels,
Proclaimed among the nations,
Believed on in the world,
Taken up in glory.
1 Timothy 3:16 New International Version (NIV)16 Beyond all question, the mystery from which true godliness springs is great:He appeared in the flesh,
was vindicated by the Spirit,[a]
was seen by angels,
was preached among the nations,
was believed on in the world,
was taken up in glory.
Glory round bean bags, I appeared in a body too!
1 Timothy 3:16 American Standard Version (ASV)16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness;[a]He who was manifested in the flesh,
Justified in the spirit,
Seen of angels,
Preached among the [b]nations,
Believed on in the world,
Received up in glory.Footnotes:1 Timothy 3:16 >>>>The word God, in place of He who, rests on no sufficient ancient evidence.<<<< Some ancient authorities read which.1 Timothy 3:16 Or, Gentiles.
Now for the AKJV:1 Timothy 3:16 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.Oh! now I understand! GOD was manifest in the flesh!!! Revelation 1:8 has in my AKJV: Revelation 1:8 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)8 I am Alpha and Omega,>>> the beginning and the ending,<<<< saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
Some modern translations omit words. Can you guess which ones?Let's check Revelation 1:11,21:6,22:13 also .NASB: Rev. 1:8“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”
Where is the first and the last ???? Revelation 21:6 Then He said to me, “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give to the one who thirsts from the spring of the water of life without cost.
Revelation 22:13I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.”
Ummm. where is Rev. 1:11 in the NASB about Alpha and Omega???
Revelation 1:11 New American Standard Bible (NASB)11 saying, “Write in a [a]book what you see, and send it to the seven churches: to Ephesus and to Smyrna and to Pergamum and to Thyatira and to Sardis and to Philadelphia and to Laodicea.”
Deuteronomy 4:2 New International Version (NIV)2 Do not add to what I command you and do not subtract from it, but keep the commands of the Lord your God that I give you.Revelation 22:18-19 New American Standard Bible (NASB)18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and [a]from the holy city, which are written in this book.
Revelation 22:18-19 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 and>>>> if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life<<<<, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Let me ask you...As you just heard the Words of Christ Jesus, Lord and Savior just spoken, would you in all good conscience pick up such a book to read ? .A book translated by persons over the centuries that omits and takes away, essentially stealing from a Holy God? Seems that satan likes to steal also. He stole worship and was kicked out of heaven. Would you continue to read a book, that Christ says to use in communion with Him for daily spiritual FOOD and apply ,knowing that it is not complete? How intimate are the Words of the Lord Christ Jesus! What spirit is attached to your bible?
Ben Chayyim Masoretic text Vs. Rudolf Kittel Masoretic Text.
Posted : 6 Oct, 2019 07:23 PM
Remember the ESV bible introduction????
Here is a refresher!
Quote:
Note how prominently the ESV acknowledges this text in it's introduction:
The ESV is based on the Masoretic text of the Hebrew Bible as found in Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia (2nd ed., 1983), and on the Greek text in the 1993 editions of the Greek New Testament (4th corrected ed.), published by the>>>>> UNITED BIBLE SOCIETIES (UBS)<<<<< , and Novum Testamentum Graece (27th ed.), edited by >>>>NESTLE and ALAND<<<<. The currently renewed respect among Old Testament scholars for the Masoretic text is reflected in the ESV’s attempt, wherever possible, to translate difficult Hebrew passages as they stand in the Masoretic text rather than resorting to emendations or to finding an alternative reading in the ancient versions. In exceptional, difficult cases, the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Septuagint, the Samaritan Pentateuch, the Syriac Peshitta, the Latin Vulgate, and other sources were consulted to shed possible light on the text, or, if necessary, to support a divergence from the Masoretic text.
End quote.
Now let's see what the NESTLE-ALAND said in their book:
In the 27th editon of the Nestle-Alland which the modern version use( Yes, even the NKJV is corrupt now) , page 45, it states and I quote VERBATIM: "The texts by these two editIons was adopted internationally by >>>>Bible Societies<<<<, and following an agreement between the >>>>VATICAN AND THE UNITED BIBLE SOCIETIES<<<< it has served as the basis FOR NEW TRANSLATIONS and for>>>> REVISIONS MADE UNDER THEIR SUPERVISION<<<<"
Tyndale wanted to produce a Bible that the common plowboy could understand. These were Oxford and Cambridge men of higher education! Tyndale was mostly Oxford educated, earning his Master of Arts degree in 1515. That would be like you David, with your higher learning, eloquent speech trying to translate for simple people!! 
The KJV onlyism movement just points out the corruption of the modern bibles , they are not responsible for people's unbelief, this is due to the corrupt translations. Even some textual critics themselves have lost their faith, like Bart Ehrman who now writes books about the bible in an effort to make other people become agnostic like him. What about Kittel? Rudolph Kittel's son Gerhard was a theologian to Hitler. Gerhard Kittel, eliminated mention of the special role of the Jewish people.To update it he oversaw changes to words such as “Messiah” and “hallelujah”, and renamed “Jerusalem” as the ‘eternal city of God’. ‘Honour your Fuhrer and master’ and ‘keep your blood pure and your honour holy’ were added to the 10 commandments.
As we progress, you will see by a careful comparison of scriptures that there are some changes and omissions that should be considered as you weigh this matter of what bible to choose to use for study.
