For whomsoever will ..Jesus is not discrimiate!! (calvinism)
Posted : 6 Aug, 2019 07:23 PM
Jesus Christ never predestined people to Heaven and hell, before the foundation of the world, this is a false doctrine taught by the Calvinist, they always like to use verses such as :
John 6:44: No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
but they always fail to mention:
John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw ALL MEN unto me.
Jesus Christ did not choose who he wanted to go to heaven and hell, it was mans choice, they can choose where they want to go.
Calvinist's always like to base their entire false doctrines off a few verses but just excuse the tons more that have more details etc... you can't just pick and choose what verses you want to use for your doctrine and excuse the rest. and also they like to use the verse:
Ephesians 1:11: "In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:"
Philippians 1:29: "For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;"
1 Thessalonians 1:4–5: "Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God. For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake."
2 Thessalonians 2:13: "But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:"
Romans 9:13: As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
Well first off, this has totally nothing to do with Jesus dying for some elite elect. it is talking about two brothers, and Esau was not doing right, and Jacob was.
The bible says in multiple occasions stuff like:
"....Not willing that ANY should perish, but that ALL should come to repentance." The Bible says: For God so loved the WORLD....."
Not some elect that he chose from the foundation of the world. This false Doctrine is Wicked, and it makes God look bad, it would be like a guy who had the cure for cancer, But he said he was only going to give it to 10 million people, which he could give it to everyone with cancer, but he only chose to give it to 10 million. now would people be like:
"WOW! What a great guy! He is giving the cure for cancer to 10 million people!"
No!, they would be like:
"What a monster, He will not even give it to all the other millions and millions of people. " and that is what it is like.
it is making God look like a monster.
DO NOT FALL IN THE PITFALLS OF CALVANISIM.
Verses
John 3:16: For this is the way God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.
John 12:32: And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself."
1 Timothy 2:4: since he wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.
2 Peter 3:9: The Lord is not slow concerning his promise, as some regard slowness, but is being patient toward you, because he does not wish for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.
1 John 2:2: and he himself is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for our sins but also for the whole world.
John 1:12: But to all who have received him - those who believe in his name - he has given the right to become God's children
Matthew 23:37: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those who are sent to you! How often I have longed to gather your children together as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you would have none of it!
Now imagine what this kind of doctrine does to people, the kind of people who are full of sin and think they are too wicked for God to love and save.
Then they are exposed to this kind of doctrine , even from well meaning people...perhaps this person is shown a tract from James Whites website (yes, I saw it and read it) Alpha and Omega ministries and this Dr.White seems to confirm this poor person's beliefs about himself and never comes to the saving knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ!!!
For whomsoever will ..Jesus is not discrimiate!! (calvinism)
Posted : 11 Aug, 2019 06:56 PM
}**DO **PROPHETS** PLAY AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN THE NEW COVENANT**??
I Corinthians 12:27,28: Now you are the body of Christ , and each one of you is a part of it. And God has placed in the church first of all apostles, second **PROPHETS**, third teachers.
Romans 12:4-8: For just as each of us has one body with many members, and those members do not all have the same function, so in Christ we, though many, form one body, and each member belongs to all the others. We have different gifts, according to the grace given to each of us. If your gift is **PROPHESYING**, then **PROPHESY in accordance with your faith, if it is teaching, then teach, If it is encouraging, then give encouragement.
Ephesians 4:7,11-13,16: But to each one of us grace has been given as Christ apportioned it... So Christ Himself {Not the church!} gives some to be apostles, some to be **PROPHETS**,some to be evangelists and some to be pastors and teachers, to equip His people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ... From Him the whole body, joined and held together by every important ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work!!
Ephesians 2:19,20: Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God's people and also members of His household, built on the foundation of the apostles and **PROPHETS**, with Christ Jesus Himself as the Chief Cornerstone!
I Corinthians 14:1,3,4: Follow the way of love and eagerly desire gifts of the Spirit, especially **PROPHECY**... The one who **PROPHECIES** speaks to people for their strengthening, encouraging and comfort.... He who **PROPHESIES** edifies the church!
I Corinthians 14:22: **PROPHECY** is not for unbelievers but **FOR BELIEVERS**!
Amos 3:7: Surely the Sovereign Lord does nothing without revealing His plan to His servants the **PROPHETS**!
I Thessalonians 19-21: Do not treat **PROPHECIES** with contempt, but test them all; hold on to what is good!!
I Corinthians 14:39: Therefore, my bothers **BE EAGER TO PROPHESY**!!
2 Peter 1:19-21: We also have the **PROPHETIC** message as something completely reliable, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the Morning Star rises in your hearts. Above all, you must understand that no **PROPHECY** of Scripture came about by the prophets own interpretation of things.. For **PROPHECY never had its origin in the human will but **PROPHETS**, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit!
Matthew 10:40,41: Jesus says, Anyone who welcomes you welcomes Me, and anyone who welcomes Me welcomes the One who sent Me. Whoever welcomes a **PROPHET** will receive a **PROPHET'S REWARD**!!
Revelation 1:1-4: The Revelation of Jesus Christ which God gave Him to show His servants what must take place. He made it known by sending His angel to His servant John, who testifies to everything he saw--that is the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ. Blessed is the one who reads the words of this **PROPHECY**and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it!
Revelation 22:7,16.18,19: Jesus says, Blessed is the one who keeps the words of the prophecy written in this book... I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony **FOR THE CHURCHES**... I warn everyone who hears the words of the **PROPHECY** of this book. If anyone **ADDS** anything to them God will add to that person the plagues described in this book {Like eternal torment in hell in Rev 14:9-11}. And if anyone **TAKES WORDS AWAY** from this book of **PROPHECY**, God will take away from that person any share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The New Jerusalem}, which are described in this book!
The New Covenant prophecies began with the Mount of Olives prophecies in Matthew 24 and 25 and Mark 13 and Luke 21 and completely ceased with the prophecies in the Book of Revelation by Jesus. And anyone teaches or **ADDS** any more prophecies or **TAKES WORDS AWAY** from the Prophecies in Revelation has committed an **UNPARDONABLE SIN**.
And so prophets must be exceedingly careful in what hey teach. And if anyone tells you God just gave him a new prophecy you will know that he is definitely a False Prophet!!
A perfect example of this is how some pre-trib prophets **ADD** to Revelation 4:1:
Revelation 4:1: John said in AD 96 when Revelation was written, " After this I looked, and there before me was a door standing open in heaven. And a voice I had first heard speaking to Me like a trumpet {See Rev 1:10} said, "Come up here and I will show you what must take place after this!"
Since a pre-trib rapture is not mentioned in the Olivet Prophecies in Matthew 24,25, Mark 13 and Luke 21 and in all of the prophecies in Revelation some pre-trib prophets **ADD** the ridiculous prophecy that John going up to heaven in AD 96 to learn what will happen in the future **ALSO REPRESENTS** millions of **CHURCH SAINTS** being raptured just before the beginning of the Great Tribulation???
The Post-Trib resurrection of God's saints is beautifully mentioned in the Olivet prophecies in Matthew 24:29-31, Matthew 25:31, Mark 13:24-26, and Luke 21:25-27 and in Revelation 11:15-18 and Revelation 14:14-16!!
God's New Covenant **PROPHETS** must be very careful not the change or contradict any of the inspired **PROPHECIES** in God's Word!!
Revelation 11:3: Jesus says, "I will appoint My 2 witnesses, and they will **PROPHESY** for 1260 days, clothed in sackcloth.
In addition to God's 2 **PROPHETS** {Moses & Elijah?} who will come from heaven to **PROPHESY** for 1260 days during the Great Tribulation, **PROPHETS** are mentioned 8 times in Revelation while pastors, teachers and evangelists are not even mentioned once!! {See Revelation 10:7; 11:10,18; 16:6; 18:20,24; 22:6,9}
Revelation 8:2: And I saw 7 angels who stand before God, and 7 trumpets were given to them! {The fist 6 trumpets will be sounded **DURING** the Great Tribulation as per Revelation 8:6 to Revelation 9:21!!}
Revelation 10:7 In the days when the 7th angel is about to sound his trumpet the **MYSTERY** {See I Cor 15:51,52} of God will be accomplished !{See Revelation 11:15-18} just as He announced to His servants the **PROPHETS**!!
I Corinthians 15:51: Listen, I tell you a **MYSTERY**: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed--in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the {**7TH** and} **LAST TRUMPET**! {see Revelation 8:2 & Rev 11:15}
Revelation 22:6-9: The angel said to me, "These words are trustworthy and true. The Lord, the God who inspires the **PROPHETS**, sent His angel to show His servants the things that must take place." Jesus says, "Blessed is the one who keeps the words of the **PROPHECY** written in this book." I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I heard and seen them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who had been showing them to me. But the angel said to me, "Don't do that! I am a fellow servant with you and with your fellow **PROPHETS** and who all who **KEEP THE WORDS** of this book! **WORSHIP GOD**!"
Amos 3:7: Surely the Sovereign Lord does nothing without revealing His plan to His servants the **PROPHETS**!
Revelation 11:15,18: The 7th angel sounded His trumpet {See Rev 8:2; 10:7; I Cor 15:51}, and there were loud voices in heaven which said: "The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and His Christ and He will reign for ever and ever!"... "The time has come for judging the dead, and for **REWARDING** your servants the **PROPHETS**and your people who reverence your name!"
Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, “The Son of Man is going to come in His Father's glory with His angels and **THEN** He will **REWARD** each person according to what he has done!”
