Everyone has been trying to talk to you about your behavior in the Bible Discussion Section. You refuse to listen saying you want us to use "the Living Word of God" to prove our points. Ask and you shall receive:
"To me; salvation is found in believing and following Christ and doing his teachings."
"The teachings of Jesus did not even make one change in the OT LAW!"???
**JESUS MADE MANY AMAZING AND TOUGHER CHANGES TO OLD TESTAMENT MARRIAGE AND DIVORCE LAWS**!!
Matthew 5:27,28,31,32 Jesus says, "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall not commit adultery. But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already **COMMITTED ADULTERY** with her in his heart. {This sin of adultery is not mentioned in the OT!!}
This would include pictures or videos of a woman on Television or the Internet or in pornography!!
Matthew 19:3-9: Some Pharisees came to Jesus to test Him. They asked, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?" "Haven't you read," Jesus replied, "That at the beginning the Creator made them male and female' and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife and the two will become one flesh.' So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therfore what God has joined together, let no one separate." Why then the Pharisees asked, did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?" Jesus replied, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because **YOUR HEARTS WERE HARD**, but it was not this way from the beginning. But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery!"
I the Old Testament you could divorce your wife for almost any reason by just giving her a certificate of divorce as per Deuteronomy 24:1,3. Actually it is almost impossible in the New Testament to divorce your wife if she is a believer, since Jesus also said in Matthew 18:22 that you should forgive your brother or wife not 7 times but 77 times which can also be translated 7 times 70 times!!
And according to I Corinthians 7:12-15 you can only divorce an unbelieving wife if she leaves you even though you have been a good husband.
I Corinthians 7:12,13,15: If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, **HE MUST NOT DIVORCE HER**. And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, **SHE MUST NOT DIVORCE HIM**!... But if an unbeliever leaves, let it be so. The brother or the sister is not bound in such circumstances. God has called us to live in peace!
Deuteronomy 24:1: If a man marries a woman who becomes **DISPLEASING TO HIM** because he finds something indecent about her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and **SENDS HER FROM HIS HOUSE**!
Where as Jesus commands that you can only divorce your wife because of sexual immorality and a man must also forgive his wife from that sin 77 times or 7 times 70 times. And then if the woman is **WILLING TO LIVE WITH HIM** HE MUST NOT DIVORCE HER!!
And Jesus says in Matthew 19:8: "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because **YOUR HEARTS WERE HARD**!!"
In the Old Testament King David had 8 wives and Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines??? But in the New Testament you can have only **ONE WIFE**!!As per I Corinthians 7:2; ! Timothy 3:2,12 and Titus 1:6.
While **SAD**lup teaches that Jesus didn't even make one change to OT Law????
I took the time and the effort to answer EVERY one of your assertions and your response is just to post the same thing over again?
Prophetic7744 you ARE a complete idiot! IF you can't seem to pull you head out of your butt and appreciate some one is trying to have a discussion with you when no one else will, then you can go pound sand.
"Matthew 5:27,28,31,32 Jesus says, "You have heard that it was said,..."
Did you get that?
Are you reading with comprehension??
You were a missionary to Israel???
"YOU HEARD IT SAID...."
Jesus is addressing the Oral Torah!
Not the Tanakh. (Old Testament)
You were a missionary to Israel and you do not know these things????
PROPHETIC7744
"Matthew 19::3-9: Some Pharisees came to Jesus to test Him. They asked, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?" "Haven't you read," Jesus replied, ...."
Are you seeing it yet?????
"Haven't you read...."
Jesus is correcting the Pharisees using the Written Torah - the first 5 books of the Old Testament.
You were a missionary to Israel and you do not see this??????
PROPHETIC 7744
Did you even read Deuteronomy 24:1-4 ???????
ITS NOT ABOUT DIVORCE!
It's about passing your wife around using legal loop holes - you can't remarry her after she becomes another's wife. Deuteronomy 24:1-4 mentions divorce but doesn't give instructions about divorce.
PROPHETIC7744
"In the Old Testament King David had 8 wives and Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines???"
Prophetic7744
I've explained this to you REPEATEDLY!
YOU are such an EVIL JERK for continuing to post this over and over when you have been given the truth!
"In that event, you must appoint as king the one whom ADONAI your God will choose..........he is not to acquire many horses for himself or have the people return to Egypt to obtain more horses,.....Likewise, he is not to acquire many wives for himself,....."
"To me; salvation is found in believing and following Christ and doing his teachings."
"The teachings of Jesus did not even make one change in the OT LAW!"???
**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??
**JESUS MADE MANY AMAZING AND TOUGHER CHANGES TO OLD TESTAMENT MARRIAGE AND DIVORCE LAWS**!!
Matthew 5:27,28,31,32 Jesus says, "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall not commit adultery. But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already **COMMITTED ADULTERY** with her in his heart. {This sin of adultery is not mentioned in the OT!!}
This would include pictures or videos of a woman on Television or the Internet or in pornography!!
Matthew 19:3-9: Some Pharisees came to Jesus to test Him. They asked, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?" "Haven't you read," Jesus replied, "That at the beginning the Creator made them male and female' and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife and the two will become one flesh.' So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therfore what God has joined together, let no one separate." Why then the Pharisees asked, did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?" Jesus replied, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because **YOUR HEARTS WERE HARD**, but it was not this way from the beginning. But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery!"
I the Old Testament you could divorce your wife for almost any reason by just giving her a certificate of divorce as per Deuteronomy 24:1,3. Actually it is almost impossible in the New Testament to divorce your wife if she is a believer, since Jesus also said in Matthew 18:22 that you should forgive your brother or wife not 7 times but 77 times which can also be translated 7 times 70 times!!
And according to I Corinthians 7:12-15 you can only divorce an unbelieving wife if she leaves you even though you have been a good husband.
I Corinthians 7:12,13,15: If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, **HE MUST NOT DIVORCE HER**. And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, **SHE MUST NOT DIVORCE HIM**!... But if an unbeliever leaves, let it be so. The brother or the sister is not bound in such circumstances. God has called us to live in peace!
Deuteronomy 24:1: If a man marries a woman who becomes **DISPLEASING TO HIM** because he finds something indecent about her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and **SENDS HER FROM HIS HOUSE**!
Where as Jesus commands that you can only divorce your wife because of sexual immorality and a man must also forgive his wife from that sin 77 times or 7 times 70 times. And then if the woman is **WILLING TO LIVE WITH HIM** HE MUST NOT DIVORCE HER!!
And Jesus says in Matthew 19:8: "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because **YOUR HEARTS WERE HARD**!!"
In the Old Testament Abraham had 2 wives, King David had 8 wives and Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines without **ANY PENALTY** ??? But in the New Testament you can have only **ONE WIFE**!!As per I Corinthians 7:2; ! Timothy 3:2,12 and Titus 1:6.
While **SAD**lup teaches that Jesus didn't even make one change to OT Law????
John 12:48: Jesus says, "There is a Judge for the one who does not accept My words, the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the Last Day!"
Revelation 2216,18,18: I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give this testimony for the churches.... I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone **ADDS** anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this book {Including eternal hell in Rev 14:9-11}. And if anyone**TAKES WORDS AWAY**{Like *SAD*lup} from this book of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the Tree of Life and iin the Holy City {The New Jerusalem}, which are described in this book!"
These words are part of God's Word and all of God's pastors, teachers, evangelists and prophets are commanded to **PREACH THE WORD**!! And the two **UNPARDONABLE SINS** in Revelation 22:18,19 above are part of God's Word. So if someone teaches on this Christian forum that the words in Revelation are not inspired by God or if they **ADD** or *TAKE WORDS AWAY** from the book of Revelation I have the right to warn that teacher that they may have committed an **UNPARDONABLE SIN**!!
2 Peter 3:10-13: But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will DISAPPEAR with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and *EVERYTHING* in it will be burned up {NIV}. Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you {**CHURCH SAINTS*} wait eagerly for the Day of God to come. {NIV} That Day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with His promise **WE** {Excluding *SAD*lup} are looking forward to a New heavens and a New Earth, the home of righteousness.
I Corinthians 15:50--51: I declare to you brothers, that flesh and blood CANNOT INHERIT the *KINGDOM OF GOD*... Listen I tell you a mystery: we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet."
John 18:36: Jesus says, "My *KINGDOM* is not of this world....But now, my Kingdom is from another place!!"
Matthew 25:31-34: Jesus says, "When the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the angels with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people one from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. Then the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!"
**WE** ARE ALL WAITING FOR THE NEW EARTH, THE NEW HEAVENS AND THE HEAVENLY NEW JERUSALEM!!
Revelation 21:1-5: Then I saw a New heaven and a New Earth, for the {present} first heaven and first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the **NEW JERUSALEM**, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and He will live with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes, There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making **EVERYTHING NEW**!" Then He said, "Write this down, for these words are TRUSTWORTHY and TRUE!"
Now *SAD*lup does not believe in the eternal New Jerusalem with its New Heaven and New Earth as do Jewish Rabbai's and I reminded several times that according to Revelation 22:18,19 it is an **UNPARDONABLE SIN** to **TAKE WORDS AWAY** from the Book of Revelation he said that was garbage. I believe that anyone who teaches the prophecies in the Book of Revelation they should be extremely careful not to **ADD** or **TAKE WORDS AWAY** from the Book of Revelation since it is an **UNPARDONABLE SIN!!
Jewish rabbai's and *SAD*lup believe in the coming of an earthly Kingdom of God where the Jews are again God's holy people and there are again animal sacrices for the foguveness of sin, and that there will be 2 thromes for God the Father and King David. Whereas Revelation 22:3 states that there will be only 2 Thrones in the eternal New Jerusalem for the God the Father and the **LAMB** Jesus Christ our great God and Savior!
Revelation 22:3: The throne of God and of the **LAMB** will be in the City!!
Revelation 3:21: Jesus says, "To him who overcomes, II will give the right to sit with Me on **MY THRONE**, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne!"
Jewish rabbai's and ^SAD*lup do not believe in the New Jerusalem, which is almost 1400 miles long wide and high, with its New Heaven and New Earth. But most Jewish rabbai's do not know it is an **UNPARDONABLE SIN**. But **SAD*lup knows and yet he still keeps teaching it on a **CHRISTIAN FORUM!!
John 16:12-14: Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will only speak what he hears, and he will tell you **WHAT IS YET TO COME**. He will glorify Me because it is from Me that he will receive what he will make known to you!"
Now the Greek word **ANGELOS** can be translated **ANGEL** or **MESSENGER** and John the Baptist is called a **MESSENGER** 4 times when the Greek word **ANGELOS** was translated **MESSENGER** instead of **ANGEL**. And of course John the Baptist was not an **ANGEL**.
And the holy spirit inspired John to write *WHAT IS YET TO COME** in Revelation. and is wrongly called an **ANGEL** in Revelation 22:16 when he should have been called a **MESSENGER** and was actually the holy spirit!!
Revelation 2216,18,18: I, Jesus, have sent My **MESSENGER** {The holy spirit} to give this testimony for the churches.... I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone **ADDS** anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this book {Including eternal hell in Rev 14:9-11}. And if anyone**TAKES WORDS AWAY**{Like *SAD*lup} from this book of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The New Jerusalem}, which are described in this book!"
And so the **UNPARDONABLE SINS* mentioned in Revelation 22:18,19 above was actually sins against the holy spirit who was the **MESSENGER** who inspired John to write Revelation 22:18,19!!
SAD** lup has made 83 posts so far in July and 72 of the 83 posts have been critical of my posts which usually are about 95 percent Scripture. It is interesting to note that none of these 72 criticisms of my posts included any analysis or exegesis of any of God's Word that I posted.
Actually *SAD*lup your extremely Satanic teachings are not believed by any of the born again Christian believers in this **CHRISTIAN**forum! Your Jewish doctrines would be gladly accepted on any Jewish Forum but are completely obnoxious in a **CHRISTIAN** forum. My posts are loaded with God's which exposes all of **SAD**lup's Satanic teachings such as:
***That our great God and Savior Jesus Christ is not God and His blood does not make Atonement for our sins.
*** That Jesus did not change any OT Laws.
***That Paul was a **WICKED** man and none of his books are inspired by God which is about half of the New Testament.
**That we are saved by **GOOD WORKS** including keeping all of the OT Laws.
Your Satanic beliefs have been rejected by all of the born again Christians on this forum!!
My posts are about 95 percent the Living Word of God which totally refutes all your Satanic teachings.
