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Understanding John 1:1-3
Posted : 2 Jul, 2017 05:43 AM

We see a major stumbling stone Christians stumble at and that is John 1:1-3. The Bible does NOT say, "God was the Word" the bible is telling us, "the Word was God�s word." Hence the Word was God. �Jesus Christ the Son of God never spoke his own words. He spoke God his Father�s words and not his own John 14:10 & John 7:16. The word ((was)) and not ((is)) is used to show past tense and the word ((and)) to show separation of thoughts a conjunction which is Basic English 101. However, we have preachers who have never been called using the scriptures out of context to take you to hell fire and brimstone along with them because of their blindness and unbelief to the scriptures. The word is no longer in heaven it has now been spoken to us by the Son of God Jesus Christ from his Father as Jesus had the Spirit of his Father in him. The word is a seed Luke 8:11. In the begining God created the heaven and the earth how? By speaking words, God and Father of Jesus never used two hands to make the earth like you and I can to make something.



Amen, the problem is we have churches using out of context scriptures to get at your pocketbook and not for the saving of your soul. The Churches of the hour rejected Jesus Christ the Son of God and has accepted the teachings of the great Babylon. ((Rome))�Amen, in the beginning Genesis 1:26 God the Father of Jesus is talking to somebody and not to himself. Something was with God that was his Son Jesus the Word. The words, ((us)) and ((our)) is used and not ((I)) and ((me)) . God the Father of Jesus created the earth by using words and not two hands like you and I can use to make something. God and his word are two separate things as the bible is the word of God and not God. We do not carry God in our hands we carry his word. Jesus Christ the Son of God known as the Holy One as well in the Old Testament spoke his Father�s words and not his own words.



Luke 8: 11] Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.�



John 1: [1] In the beginning ((was)) the Word, ((and)) the Word ((was)) with God, ((and)) the Word was God. [2] The same ((was)) in the beginning with God. [3] All things ((were)) made by him; and without him ((was)) not any thing made that was made.

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Hebrews 1: [1] God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, [2] Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; [3] Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; [4] Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.



Genesis 1: [26] And God said, Let ((us)) make man in ((our)) image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.�



Ephesians 3: [9] And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:�



John 7: [16] Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.�



John 14:[24] He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.�Amen, the bible became a human being as the Word was made flesh and not God the Father as he never left his throne he sent his Word/Son, the same words that Jesus spoke made Mary pregnant, as the word is a seed.�



John 1: 12] But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: [13] Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. [14] And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of�the Father,) full of grace and truth. [15] John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. [16] And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. [17] For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. [18] No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.�‎



Luke 1: 34] Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?�[35] And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.[36] And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren.�[37] For with God nothing shall be impossible.�[38] And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.



1st John 1: [1] That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; [2] (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;) [3] That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.�



1st Peter 2: 7] Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, [8] And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.�





Jeremiah 9: [1] Oh that my head were waters, and mine eyes a fountain of tears, that I might weep day and night for the slain of the daughter of my people!�

[2] Oh that I had in the wilderness a lodging place of wayfaring men; that I might leave my people, and go from them! for they be all adulterers, an assembly of treacherous men.�

[3] And they bend their tongues like their bow for lies: but they are not valiant for the truth upon the earth; for they proceed from evil to evil, and they know not me, saith the LORD.�

[4] Take ye heed every one of his neighbour, and trust ye not in any brother: for every brother will utterly supplant, and every neighbour will walk with slanders.�

[5] And they will deceive every one his neighbour, and will not speak the truth: they have taught their tongue to speak lies, and weary themselves to commit iniquity.�

[6] Thine habitation is in the midst of deceit; through deceit they refuse to know me, saith the LORD.

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Understanding John 1:1-3
Posted : 29 Jul, 2017 04:21 PM

◄ Proverbs 30: 1- 4

NASB + Strong's

The Words of Agur

1 The words of Agur the son of Jakeh, the oracle. The man declares to Ithiel, to Ithiel and Ucal:

2 Surely I am more stupid than any man, And I do not have the understanding of a man.

3 Neither have I learned wisdom, Nor do I have the knowledge of the Holy One.

4 Who has ascended into heaven and descended? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has wrapped the waters in His garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His name or His son's name? Surely you know!



The Orthodox Jewish Bible

◄ Proverbs 30 ►

Orthodox Jewish Bible

1�The devarim of Agur Ben Yakeh, even the massa; the gever (man) spoke unto Itiel, even unto Itiel and Uchal:

2�Surely I am more stupid than any ish, and have not the binat adam.

3�I neither learned chochmah, nor have the da'as of the Kedoshim.

4�Who hath ascended into Shomayim, or descended? Who hath gathered ruach in the hollows of His hands? Who hath bound the mayim in a cloak? Who hath established all the afsei aretz (ends of the earth)? What is Shmo (His Name), and what is Shem Bno (the Name of His Son) [T.N. see Memra, creative Word of G-d in Targumim]), if thou canst tell? [T.N. Only through G-d's Word can we know G-d's salvation (Psalm 119:81; 2 Tim 3:15). G-d's Son (Proverbs 30:4), the source of revelation (Proverbs 30:3-5) and love (Proverbs 8:17), functioned as an Amon (Craftsman, master builder, Proverbs 8:30) or Creative Wisdom at His side as the source of creativity (Proverbs 8:12; 8:22; 8:30) and love (Proverbs 8:17). And this Son of G-d took on flesh as the Son of G-d Messiah (Psalm 2:7; 1 Chronicles 17:13; Isaiah 7:14; Isaiah 9:5-6), David's L-rd (Psalm 110:1). And whoever calls on the Name of the L-rd will be saved (Joel 2:32). G-d's Word, His Son, incarnated as the Son of G-d Messiah, has a prophesied Name. His prophesied Name is Yeshua given through Messiah's Namesake Yeshua the High Priest who made the kaporah in 516 BCE ending the Golus (Exile) of abandonment from G-d (Isaiah 54:7) lasting 70 years from 586 BCE to 516 BCE. Yeshua is the Kohen after the order of Melki-Tzedek (Ps 110:4) who in his abandonment (Matthew 27:46) made the kaporah ending our Exile from G-d, our exile of sin and death (Matt. 1:12-17).]

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