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Unborn Babies Don't Have Souls
Posted : 23 May, 2009 09:31 AM

The greatest fallacy in Christianity today which causes a great deal of strife amongst believers and non-believers is the erroneous belief that abortion is in fact murder. This is a fallacy and is not supported by any verse of scripture. In fact there are many verses that state otherwise.



I debate this with Christians regularly and their blindness to truth is intolerable. The inability of Christians to accept truth when it's very clear in the Bible, is disappointing.



First of all God is a Spirit (John 4:24). God is not a physical being. He does not have have a physical body.



Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.



God is not a physical being so he did not have the ability to physically breath into Adam the "breath of life" This verse really means is God gave Adam the ability to breath oxygen through his nostrils.



Further proof of the "Breath of Life" simply referring to the oxygen we breath is in



Genesis 6:17 And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.



Genesis 7:15 And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life.



Genesis 7:22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land , died.



Job 33:4 The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.



There's no doubt that "breath of life" referrers to the air we breath, not a literal event that took place.



In Ezekiel 37:8-10 we watch as God re-animates dead bones into living soldiers, but the passage makes the interesting note that they were not alive as persons until their first breath. Likewise, in Genesis 2:7, Adam had a human form and a vibrant new body but he only becomes a fully-alive human person after God makes him breathe.



It is neither a sin nor wrong to kill a living creature that does not have a soul. It's only a sin and murder when one kills a living and breathing human being. A living and breathing human being regardless of age has become a living soul.



A baby in the womb is a living creature without a soul. A baby does not breath oxygen (breath of life) until he/she has been birthed into the world and is breathing the air with his/her own lungs. While in the womb the baby receives oxygenated blood through the umbilical cord. The baby is living but is not yet a immortal being with an immortal soul.



Abortion is simply an induced miscarriage. The statistics state that 1 in 3 pregnancies end in a miscarriage. These miscarriages occur due to absolutely no fault of the mother. They happen for a wide variety of reasons and many miscarriages that occur can't be explained. But if you're a Christian and you believe God controls all things and you believe unborn babies have a soul, you'd also have to believe God is a murderer. If God allows a baby with a soul to die and he has the ability to prevent this but allows it anyway, that'd be no different then a mother inducing a miscarriage.



As an inferior creator God has given rights, responsibilities, abilities, and permission for 9 months to terminate the life we've created if we see fit to do so. This aligns itself with the doctrine of God. God as the supreme creator has the right to terminate his creation at will. He has this right as the supreme creator. We as an inferior creator have a limited period of 9 months to destroy our creation. At the time of birth when the baby starts breathing on his/her own, they become a living soul. The baby becomes an immortal person with an immortal soul. Our inferior creator rights have been expunged.



A baby didn't even have any value until a month of age.

LEVITICUS 27:6 And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver. Likewise, in Numbers 3:15 a census was commanded, but the Jews were told only to count those one month old and above anything less, particularly a fetus, was not counted as a human person.

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BeautifulFilipina

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Unborn Babies Don't Have Souls
Posted : 25 Dec, 2009 01:51 PM

"Before you were born, I knew you..."



soo..Unborn children God also knew!





and Just so you know...God has a physical being!

God became like one of us and died on the cross...



I think your in error...



if you deny that God has a physical being..then you are an anti-christ...



"If anyone preaches to you that Jesus has not come in flesh, He is a liar.

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Unborn Babies Don't Have Souls
Posted : 20 Dec, 2010 06:44 PM

Even Satan thought and thinks he is correct. So the way I decide about what someone says is by lineing it up with the word of God. The last comment was absolutely correct. She knows the word of God. This man is a deceiver, much like the father of lies, satan, sorry I have no sympathy for him, he is like the blind leading the blind. Enough said. I will not pray for him as God knows his heart. I don't pray for satan either, I know his end is coming soon.

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