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dljrn04
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Gottschalkism came before CalvinismPosted : 1 Aug, 2012 11:43 AMAmid the swirling controversies of the ninth century, there was raised a strong voice for sovereign grace belonging to an unknown German monk named Gottschalk of Orbais (ca. 804�869). Like Augustine before him and Luther and Calvin after him, Gottschalk possessed an overriding sense of the sovereignty of God in salvation, and he brought it to bear upon his turbulent generation. It was in this dark hour of history that this medieval theologian stood in the gap to uphold the banner of the doctrines of grace. |
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Gottschalkism came before CalvinismPosted : 2 Aug, 2012 02:45 PMHe hates* sin |
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dljrn04
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Gottschalkism came before CalvinismPosted : 2 Aug, 2012 02:52 PMFalse teachers do not teach all God's other attributes. His Power, his Goodness, his Wisdom, his Holiness, his Righteousness, his Wrath, his Grace, his Sovereignty , his Nearness , his Immutability, his Joy, his Invisibility, his Forgiving, his Truth, his Glory |
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teach_ib
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Gottschalkism came before CalvinismPosted : 2 Aug, 2012 02:52 PMBob wrote: "If any pastor, theologian, etc gets a few points wrong are they a 'heretic"? By challenging the likes of Calvin (and other reformers), Augustine, etc, you are setting yourself up as one having more knowledge, one with more Biblical understanding then all of them.... a fairly tall inference." |
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teach_ib
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Gottschalkism came before CalvinismPosted : 2 Aug, 2012 02:55 PM1 John 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. |
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Gottschalkism came before CalvinismPosted : 2 Aug, 2012 02:58 PMWe know that God is love. Ignoring the verses I posted doesn't further the discussion at all. God is not only love. |
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dljrn04
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Gottschalkism came before CalvinismPosted : 2 Aug, 2012 03:18 PMEveryone knows God is love. the problem is false teachers do not teach all God's other attributes. His Power, his Goodness, his Wisdom, his Holiness, his Righteousness, his Wrath, his Grace, his Sovereignty , his Nearness , his Immutability, his Joy, his Invisibility, his Forgiving, his Truth, his Glory |
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Gottschalkism came before CalvinismPosted : 2 Aug, 2012 03:31 PMHusband to Wife: I love you dear. |
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dljrn04
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Gottschalkism came before CalvinismPosted : 2 Aug, 2012 03:42 PMawesome analogy Bob, that is exactly how the universalist see their relationship to God. Not how God says it in the bible though. |
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teach_ib
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Gottschalkism came before CalvinismPosted : 2 Aug, 2012 07:20 PMThe only true love is God...And the only true display of love is God. |
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Gottschalkism came before CalvinismPosted : 3 Aug, 2012 03:52 AMI didn't twist anything. I posted verses. Now, you can try to explain those verses if you want. You have not attempted that you. I'll be waiting for your explanation of them. Again, I am not interested in what you want to be true. I'm only interested in what is true. Knowing God is love, is not enough. You have to know what it means that God is love. You can't just say, "Well if I was God and I was love, I would be this way". You aren't God, so we go to the scriptures to see who God is. We don't fashion a God that we desire. |
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