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Admin	Why Calvinism Exists..... (in 10 seconds or less) Posted : 20 Apr, 2011 05:12 PM The invention of the printing press put Bibles into the hands of common man for the first time in all of history. People quickly discovered the Catholic Church's teachings were not in line with the Bible. When the Catholic Church refused to align it self with the Bible the people protested, thus was born the Prostestant Movement. Some in the New movement feared the Bible in the hands of the common uneducated man combined with freedom from the Catholic Church authority would result in various heresies. These people were known as the Reformers, thus was born the Reformation Movement. Reformers felt they needed to standardize the teachings of the Bible, more or less "Reforming the Catholic Church's teachings" to align with the Bible to avoid people interpreting the Bible for themselves. To do this they drew on the writings of Augustine, Calvin and others, thus producing the Doctrines of Grace and Reformation Theology. In light of history, I am of the opinion that Reformation Theology is exactly what the name suggests; a 'Reformed Catholic Church' which in reality makes us Reformers and Protestants, instead as the Calvinist suggests; Calvinists and Arminians. This really tickles me cause it makes so many things about their behavior towards doctrine and Church histoy make sense to me. You know what I mean? Post Reply
View Profile History	Why Calvinism Exists..... (in 10 seconds or less) Posted : 21 Apr, 2011 02:27 PM Twosparrows said: "In light of history, I am of the opinion that Reformation Theology is exactly what the name suggests; a 'Reformed Catholic Church' which in reality makes us Reformers and Protestants, instead as the Calvinist suggests; Calvinists and Arminians. This really tickles me cause it makes so many things about their behavior towards doctrine and Church histoy make sense to me. You know what I mean?" James replies: AFTER you STUDY church history.....THEN you can say "in light of history". You forget you don't HAVE ANY LIGHT. STUDY first, and THEN get back to us. The word "catholic" just means "universal". As a Christian, just like the early Christians, I say and believe the Apostles Creed. I affirm that I believe in the Catholic church, because that means the universal church, the people of God that spans all time and places on Earth. And yes, Reformed believers Do have a MUCH different attitude towards Christian history and what Christians have believed. Ours is BIBLICAL and YOURS IS NOT! The Modern American Christian not only is ignorant of church history, but they think it is not necessary or important. After all they think their private religious hunches are the Holy Spirit, so why would they need to care about what all Christians have thought? Now, Rome demands that Popes are infallible, and that Roman Catholic church tradition comes BEFORE Scripture. The cry of the Reformation was "Faith alone, Scripture alone!" They did NOT throw the baby out with the bathwater and decide to ignore 1500 years of Christian belief. They just threw out the things Rome taught that contradicted the Bible. NOW...we have modern American Christians, who are almost all Arminian, and the idea of hyper-individualism, which is an American idea, is put together, and those two things COME BEFORE Scripture!! How? Well, Arminians are just making inferences from Scripture that are not there. They see the word "whosoever" and say,"that means everybody can come to Jesus". They read John 16:13 and being American, they say "See! that means that the Holy Spirit will give the correct interpretation of every verse I read, and I am infallible!" Have you ever wondered how Christians have interpreted John 16:13 throughout the last two thousand years???? This might come as a shock, but they had that verse in their Bibles just like you do. And some of them were EXTREMELY educated and sharp. I know, I know, that IS hard for you to believe, but it IS true. Roman Catholicism is an apostate Body. They WERE of the faith, but left it long ago. Modern American Christianity, is a mixture of American cultural ideas imposed on top of Scripture. The way you AVOID that is to stay away from BOTH of those extremes, and humble yourself by studying Church history, and the Bible. You have two thousand years of YOUR brothers and sisters in Christ, and THEY had the Holy Spirit too. "Church history should not rule our interpretation of Scripture, but it should guide our interpretation of Scripture." In Christ, James Post Reply
View Profile History	Why Calvinism Exists..... (in 10 seconds or less) Posted : 21 Apr, 2011 03:25 PM Shared ~ Ours is BIBLICAL and YOURS IS NOT! *** :nahnah:...Sounds jus like a Spoiled Brat Child..." I Know You Are...But What I'm I "....:ROFL:...xo Post Reply
View Profile History	Why Calvinism Exists..... (in 10 seconds or less) Posted : 21 Apr, 2011 03:32 PM Shared ~ "The Modern American Christian not only is [[[ ignorant ]]] of church history, but they think it is not necessary or important." *** The Name Calling of Ignorant Modern American Christians ???...Its purty much calling Every Person in America Ignorant...Geeeweezzzzz...I guess that Includes You since you live in America after all we wouldnt want to be Un-Christian and not Share the Love with ya James...xo Post Reply
View Profile History	Why Calvinism Exists..... (in 10 seconds or less) Posted : 21 Apr, 2011 03:48 PM PJ - Ryan no matter how you do look at it Two is usually in agreement with scripture. Ryan - So you say. ON what authority can you make this claim? Post Reply
View Profile History	Why Calvinism Exists..... (in 10 seconds or less) Posted : 21 Apr, 2011 04:02 PM Proverbs 29:2~ When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn...xo Post Reply
View Profile History	Why Calvinism Exists..... (in 10 seconds or less) Posted : 21 Apr, 2011 04:04 PM Matthew 7:29~ "For he ( The Word Christ Jesus ) taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes."...xo Post Reply
View Profile History	Why Calvinism Exists..... (in 10 seconds or less) Posted : 21 Apr, 2011 04:06 PM Mark 1:22~ "And they were astonished at his doctrine: for he ( The Word Christ Jesus ) taught them as one that had authority, and not as the scribes....xo Post Reply
adrbabes9697 View Profile History	Why Calvinism Exists..... (in 10 seconds or less) Posted : 21 Apr, 2011 06:55 PM Just because its the history of A church, doesnt mean that its the CORRECT church. TRUE Christian history and the TRUE Christian church started with Jesus and His Disciples. Thats the ONLY church history I want to study. Martin Luther, John Calvin, the Arminian dude and all those guys like that are part of the history of the church, they are not TRUE church history. Post Reply
View Profile History	Why Calvinism Exists..... (in 10 seconds or less) Posted : 21 Apr, 2011 07:00 PM Jude that didn't answer my question Post Reply
View Profile History	Why Calvinism Exists..... (in 10 seconds or less) Posted : 21 Apr, 2011 07:38 PM By what authority do I say that, well it is very simple Jesus. Post Reply

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