Author	Thread: Regeneration precedes Faith............
Admin	Regeneration precedes Faith............ Posted : 4 Apr, 2011 02:06 PM Regeneration is the communication of the new heart to sinners by the operation of the Holy Spirit through the Word...a Christ-generated act of instantaneously communicating spiritual life to a man convicted of sin. Regeneration is expressly denied to be of the will of the flesh, or of the will of man (John 1:13), and is ascribed to God himself. Not all men have faith in Christ; and those who do have it, have it not of themselves; it is the gift of God, worked out through the Redemption which is in Christ through the mighty operation of his Spirit, which is the fruit and effect of His invincible grace. This is because the natural man is wholly captive under the power and dominion of sin, and a slave unto it, and has neither a power nor will to believe the gospel of Jesus Christ apart from the regenerating work of the Holy Spirit. "And I will put my Spirit within you, and you shall live...Then you shall know that I am the LORD; I have spoken, and I will do it, declares the LORD." - Ezekiel 37:14 But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, made us alive [quickened us] with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions � it is by grace you have been saved. Ephesians 2:4-5 �It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is of no avail. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life. But there are some of you who do not believe.� (For Jesus knew from the beginning who those were who did not believe, and who it was who would betray him.) And he said, �This is why I told you that no one can come to me [i.e. believe in me] unless it is granted him by the Father.� John 6:63-65 You have been born anew, not of perishable seed but but of imperishable, through the living and abiding word of God..."� 1 Peter 1:23-25 Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born of God. 1 John 5:1 Faith in the living God and his Son Jesus Christ is always the result of the new birth, and can never exist except in the regenerate. Whoever has faith is a saved man. Charles Spurgeon from the sermon �Faith and Regeneration� If salvation is the implantation of a new, infinite life in the soul, it must be a work of God. Self-caused effects can never rise above the character or qualities of their cause. "Flesh gives birth to flesh but the Spirit gives birth to Spirit," Jesus told Nicodemus. This saving grace cannot be caused by the creature, it can only come from God. John Hannah from To God be the Glory (pg. 34-5) The inward offer is a kind of spiritual enlightenment, whereby the promises are presented to the hearts of men, as it were, by an inward word. William Ames Post Reply
View Profile History	Regeneration precedes Faith............ Posted : 5 Apr, 2011 09:21 AM Then by your confession lsu you are not saved. Post Reply
adrbabes9697 View Profile History	Regeneration precedes Faith............ Posted : 5 Apr, 2011 09:26 AM Did Jesus not raise Lazarus from the dead? Lazarus was LITERALLY dead, read the story John 11:1-45. He HEARD Jesus when He said, Lazarus come forth. An unsaved person is SPIRITUALLY dead, they can still HEAR the Word of God, but the Holy Spirit has to open their ears AND their heart before they can truly LISTEN to God and come to the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ. Just because someone says they accepted Jesus, doesnt mean that they are that THEY saved themselves. Salvation is a GIFT from God, you either accept it or you dont. But first you have to HEAR the Word, BELIEVE and have FAITH in the WORD, then you ACCEPT the WORD. All of this is done by the Holy Spirit speaking to you through the Word of God. Post Reply
View Profile History	Regeneration precedes Faith............ Posted : 5 Apr, 2011 10:27 AM PJ, honestly if you have nothing better to add then you are free to stay out of the discussion. Furthermore, at least be right if you are going to make a statement like that. Post Reply
View Profile History	Regeneration precedes Faith............ Posted : 5 Apr, 2011 10:29 AM PJ, you just admitted that I'm not saved because I don't give credit to myself for salvation. Why don't you admit you save yourself? Post Reply
View Profile History	Regeneration precedes Faith............ Posted : 5 Apr, 2011 11:15 AM Good LSU:applause:... because the only part we play in our salvation is when we heed the call of God to repentance, and turn our lives around from our wicked ways, and say YES by receiving Jesus Christ as our Savior. All the rest is up to God, and He has not required any of us to do anything but heed His voice and humbly surrender to Him and receive His Son. The Holy Spirit does His work in and through us when we give Him total control over our life. Post Reply
View Profile History	Regeneration precedes Faith............ Posted : 5 Apr, 2011 02:12 PM Ella you proclaimed your error publicly so we will deal with it publicly. View Profile History Regeneration precedes Faith............ Posted : 5 Apr, 2011 09:04 AM My take has always been that when someone is born again they receive the Holy Spirit. To answer your question, yes I was dead. I had no part in my salvation. Therefore I give all glory to God for my salvation and none to myself. Ella, Lsu the bible say you must hear the gospel, you must believe the Gospel, and you must confess Jesus as lord. LSu I have spiritual authority , to correct those that oppose the gospel. You are in agreement with reformed theology, known as another gospel, and the bible says to mark those that proclaim another gospel. Ro 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them Ga 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. Ga 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Post Reply
View Profile History	Regeneration precedes Faith............ Posted : 5 Apr, 2011 02:52 PM I said God saves man and so you say I'm not a Christian. Anyway this will be just another thread I won't be in any longer because of you. Post Reply
View Profile History	Regeneration precedes Faith............ Posted : 5 Apr, 2011 02:55 PM PJ, what in the name of the Lord are you talking about???:zzzz: Post Reply
View Profile History	Regeneration precedes Faith............ Posted : 5 Apr, 2011 03:00 PM Boy...Oh...Boy...I See Once Again the Body of Christ being Torn Apart for the Amusement of the Pharisees that post this Poo for thier own satisfaction...:rolleyes:... Your right PJ on one point...Pharisees have No Interest in Truth, though it has been Given by Everyone on this Thread that is in disagreement with the Post...Yall carry on with the Accusatins Against each other...:boxing:...Ima goin fishin with Jesus...:bouncy:...xo Post Reply
View Profile History	Regeneration precedes Faith............ Posted : 5 Apr, 2011 03:37 PM :ROFL: Judy! Judy! ...catch a catfish for me so I can have it with my grits in the morning. I'll stop by your place and pick it up tomorrow...thanks:yay::dancingp: tooooo funnee!:ROFL: Post Reply

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