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Admin	What if. . . Posted : 1 Feb, 2011 08:51 AM there weren't any Calvinists or Armenians? Then what would you have to talk about? Is it necessary to debate Theology when the world around us needs Truth? What will Jesus find us doing when he returns? Will we be bickering among ourselves about how many angels can stand on the head of a pin or will we be discipling others in the Truth of the Scriptures and teaching them to be followers of Jesus? I have little or next to no use for Theologians if their theology is all they can talk about. They are no more good than the Pharisees and Sadducees they sound like! How about putting your "mytheology" aside and rolling up your sleeves and getting a little "dirty" digging for Truth instead of scratching the surface for theory? Thunder (the "get off your soap box" reindeer) Post Reply
klmartin62 View Profile History	What if. . . Posted : 3 Feb, 2011 07:20 AM So, God calls some to be teachers for no reason? He tells us to follow our church leaders, but they are not to lead? Since Paul taught, should we just ignore him? The bible also says not to forsake the assembly, and Pro 18:1 A man who isolates himself seeks his own desire; He rages against all wise judgment. Pro 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding, But in expressing his own heart. You speak of that which you do not know. I work with these guys all the time and most of their problems stem from being taught false doctrine. They are so hungry, so desperate, that they jump at any chance to dig out. Unfortunately, many churches use it as a training ground for people just starting out in ministry. They are well intentioned, but that is not enough. To a man, these guys are OCD, and they have nothing to do but obsess on what they are taught. It is not unusual for these guys to study 14 or 15 hours per day. One doctrinal error will have them off in La-La land before you can turn around. You think some of the cults are confused? Talk to some of these guys! You will hear things that will blow you away. I have one guy in Kansas that thinks his very salvation rests on restoring his relationship with his wife, and she is mailing him pictures of herself turning tricks. All because of a bad teaching about divorce, this guy thinks he is destined to burn in hell! So, tell me again how these guys don't need sound doctrine. When you actually get out there and minister to people, you will start seeing how important it is. One scripture, out of context, does not negate the system set up by the Apostles. In His service, Leon Post Reply
View Profile History	What if. . . Posted : 3 Feb, 2011 07:26 AM Leon I would strongly have to disagree with the comment about scripture of context not making the difference, because that is exactly what calvinism does is take scripture out of context and build a false doctrine to establish there un belief. Post Reply
klmartin62 View Profile History	What if. . . Posted : 3 Feb, 2011 07:59 AM PJ, You keep calling Calvinism unbelief, but if anything, they have even more faith because they don't believe man has any part in it. I see what false doctrine leads to every day, and it is not pretty. You don't have to be a Calvinist to believe in salvation by grace, you just have to be a Christian. Post Reply
View Profile History	What if. . . Posted : 3 Feb, 2011 08:02 AM Why do you assume I'm not out there ministering to people? Was that another under-handed insult? :ROFL: Post Reply
klmartin62 View Profile History	What if. . . Posted : 3 Feb, 2011 08:04 AM I pray you are not. Post Reply
View Profile History	What if. . . Posted : 3 Feb, 2011 08:13 AM Pray for yourself--- That you can see insulting God's children is satanic.:devil: Hypocrites shouldn't be ministering AT ALL- Out of your mouth, Leon, proceeds blessings and cursings.:devil: You can only fool those who don't know who you really are.:ROFL: But God will even show them eventually. It's just a matter of time!:yay: Post Reply
View Profile History	What if. . . Posted : 3 Feb, 2011 09:17 AM We should follow jesus and not any man's doctrines. All men are liars, all not a few, ALL MEN ARE LIARS So, Calvin was wrong , luther is wrong, I am wrong, you are wrong, Jesus is right. Get it -------> got it Post Reply
View Profile History	What if. . . Posted : 3 Feb, 2011 09:17 AM Leon we seem to be mis communicating, it is not me that says Calvinism is unbelief, it is the word of god that produces faith that cometh by hearing and hearing, by the word of God, that proclaims Calvinism is unbelief. Now is your public confession of faith as it has been in Calvinism or the lord Jesus Christ? Post Reply
View Profile History	What if. . . Posted : 3 Feb, 2011 09:36 AM Dennis is a wise young man. :angel: Post Reply
View Profile History	What if. . . Posted : 3 Feb, 2011 09:47 AM Father, thank you for women that will stand for truth, in the midst of adversity. Post Reply

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