Author	Thread: Fornication
Ferngirl View Profile History	Fornication Posted : 12 Jan, 2011 06:52 AM Fornication! God is love - fact! What I would like to know as a new Christian is where does a formal marriage ceremony appear in the Bible plz. Does it teach about tying together in the law of the land? Also, if two people are deeply in love and committed, is this still fornication if they are close in spirit with a joint faith? Is it wrong to live together and be in love? And, if so, where in the Bible can I learn this part? I need all the formalities straight in my mind as I have never had a Christian relationship before and only got baptised in August, so it's all new. Post Reply
flyby View Profile History	Fornication Posted : 13 Jan, 2011 02:16 PM Sweetheart I appreciate your post. You said �I am trying to learn properly for Jesus so I definately go to heaven because i dont want to be any part of the devils work.� Cheers to ya. You use the word definitely but if you don�t have sex outside of marriage just to be assured you have salvation and go to heaven then you are teetering on works, and making John 3:16 of no effect. You now (being saved) have a personal relationship with Christ, let him guide you. I hope to save myself for marriage but know I could fail on this issue, but I will never listen anyone tell me I will loose my salvation over this issue. Post Reply
View Profile History	Fornication Posted : 14 Jan, 2011 10:09 AM Yes, God is love. But much more than a feeling, love is an action. Paul talks about love in 1 Cor 13, and all the descriptors are actions that love either takes or does not take. It is selfless...not self seeking and it requires commitment...it always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. The feelings of being 'in love'...maybe better stated as infatuation or affection...are fairly self seeking. "I want to be with this person because 'this person makes me feel good, happy, sexy, etc.' Now, in truth, there is nothing wrong with those feelings...but they will ebb and flow like the tide and they are not love. Imagine your loved one with a life-threatening contagious illness...do you run or stay? Imagine your loved one with a debilitating illness or terribly maimed in an accident...does your heart tell you to leave or remain regardless of cost? Our God never leaves us...never forsakes us...no matter the reason and no matter the cost. He is love. In Eph 6, Paul compared the relationship between a husband and wife to that of Christ and the Church. A husband is to love his wife as Christ loves the Church. A wife is to submit to her husband as she submits to the Lord. When you committed yourself to the Lord 4 months ago, you did so publicly, openly in a baptismal covenant. You did not keep it secret, you were not ashamed, you did not leave it so you could waffle back and forth depending on circumstances...but made a public, formal declaration of your commitment to Christ. Marriage is a covenant as well. If someone is not willing to make a formal declaration, to commit, to covenant to a relationship before God and man...where is the love? What would be the reason for living together in a sexual relationship without covenant? The only reasons I can find are self serving ones...and love is not self seeking. To put it to you personally, Ferngirl, why would a Christian man who says he loves you not want to make a public proclamation before God and man of his commitment to you, to cover you in covenant and joyfully announce you as his bride? Would you give yourself for less? To accept less is to not understand the value God places on or the love He has for you and all His people. Christ loved us (the Church, His bride) and gave himself up for us (the Church, His bride) as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God. He has covered us in covenant...that is love. Post Reply

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