You are right, I should not have lowered myself to that level. I know I will never get a straight answer. It is only twisting and twisting of God's word to prove a point that isn't even his own. He obviously is only parroting what he has been told by others.
Romans 1:7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Romans 1:15 So, as much as in me is, I am ready to preach the gospel to you that are at Rome also.
Ro 1:16 � For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Ro 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
Ro 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
Ro 3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
Ro 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
Ro 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Ro 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Ro 4:9 � Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness.
Ro 4:11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:
12 And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised.
13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.
Ro 4:16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,
Concerning the topic of faith, this particular verse brings much understanding when it come to understanding bible faith, faith will always require an appropriate response by mankind.
Here are more scriptures in John that agree with who can be saved.
The same statement you hear again and again in Romans:
Mr 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Joh 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Joh 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
Joh 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
Joh 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
Joh 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Joh 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
Let's go back to Romans Ch 10 the one after nine, and see again this truth.
Ro 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12 � For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
18 But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.
19 But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses saith, I will provoke you to jealousy by them that are no people, and by a foolish nation I will anger you.
20 But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me.
21 But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.
1 � I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying,
The word of God teaches that in the mouth of two or three witnesses let every word be established, That is the word of The lord.
Dennis, if I offered you an invitation to come to my party, and you refused, because you claim you have nothing towear or for whatever reason. You made the choice not to come and accept my invitation offer. Then you find out that, you missed a great time, and there was gives aways of million of dollars that you missed out on, Whose fault is it that you didn't receive the invitation and come to the party? Its was your choice.
This same principle applies to our salvation, God has provided us with the perfect means to be redeemed from our sins, and He gives us an inviation of offer to come, and receive His Son as your Savior for eternal life and our redemption. If the person refuses and will not receive the invitation, and misses out on God's salvation plan of eternal glory and being an heir to the kingdom with Jesus,whose fault is it? God gives this invitation to ALL PEOPLE IN THE WORLD. This invitation is to ALL God's creation, not just some.
There are NO SPEACIAL PEOPLE who get the invitation, the whosoevers get the inviattion, and you and I and all the people in the world are sinners, before Christ comes into our lives, we are the whososvers.
The only difference is, we, the whosoevers, received the invitation and came just as we were with all out sins, and Jesus' blood washed and cleansed us from all unrighteousness.
And because we came to just as we were, God said, His righteousness became our righteuousness, and we now stand righteous without sins before a Holy God, and there is NOW therefore, no condemnation for those who are IN(believe) Christ and who DO NOT WALK (that's the main key) DO NOT WALK according to the FLEASH(practicing sins)
The reason why there is no longer no condmenation for the true belierve who are converted and no longer sinning, is because we are sealed by the Holy Spirit of God, until Jesus returns for us. And this sealing by the Holy Spirit, gives us the right to come BOLDLY before God's throne of grace and REPENT OF OUR SINS, AND TURN FROM OUR WICKED WAYS. If we continue to sin, God will punish us, like He say in Hebrews Chapter 12.
Leon & Dennis, when you continue to stay on the merry go-round, go around in circles with PJ, this will give cause for you to go around in circles with him. UNLESS, you decide some where down the road to jump off the merry-go-round:ROFL::bouncy::bouncy:
Y'all couldn't b more wrong. I got my clear answer that I have been waiting for for two weeks. Now I can address the scriptures and not insults. That is what this whole forum is supposed to be about. The cycle ended, come on off now girls. LOL.
PJ,
Thank you, that was very good. Yes, you have to have faith to accept Christ. I never said you didn't. I did say that God called you. Your own scripture started out...called to be saints. Also there was... how can you preach unless you are sent. I believe it takes three things to be saved, Repent, Confess, Believe. I just don't think we are capable of doing these things on our own. I think God has to change our hearts to get us to accept Him.
Sorry PJ, but it is scriptural. God gave to each one a measure of faith. .....through faith and that not of yourselves, it is a gift from God, lest any man should boast.
There are two prime examples. Also, Jesus asked His apostles, where is your faith. That has to mean they had it but were not using it.
God gave it to you, you decide if you will use it or not.
