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Posted : 5 Jun, 2010 03:31 AM

There seems to be some real confusion on this sight about what it takes to be saved. While it is fairly simple, I thought it might be worthwhile going over it again.



As you start to believe (it is not something that happens instantly for everyone), you will start to have this strong love in your heart for our Father and Jesus Christ whom He sent. You will make your public confession of faith to anyone who will listen to you. You will be on fire for the Lord. You will talk about Him to friends and family until they hate to see you coming. LOL.



You will work. You will do anything you can to further the Kingdom. You will notice that your language clears up. You start trying to do the right thing all the time, even when it isn't convenient.



Now, you are not working for your salvation, but because you are saved. Salvation is all of God and NONE of us. Once you have reached this point, nothing can take your salvation, no, not even your own sin. By this time you are indwelt with the Holy Spirit and He will remind you to repent.



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Posted : 8 Jun, 2010 05:03 PM

Hello pixy:

I would hang out with you,but first I need to get a Ministers pardon to enter the country.

I was a bad boy when I was much younger,I was young and dumb,now I just seem to be dumb..hahahaha

The consequences are,that I cannot enter Canada without that Pardon.

We are called not to resist the Holy Spirit:

Acts 7:51

2nd Timothy 3:8

Galatians 2:21 Frustrate/Resist

Resisting is active,not resisting is passive.

The Lord does use men and woman to teach and instruct us,until we are able to feed ourselves and eat of the meat of the word.

Remember'Iron sharpens Iron"

1st Corinthians 14 is not possible without other believers involved.



The reason most Christians are not able to read the Word with understanding is because those that think they have been called to teach,these do not teach others to read the word.

They say just read your Bible,Yet Yeshua says in Matthew 28:18-20 to make Disciples of the Ethnos and to teach them the Name(s) of GOD(There are at least 27 found in the Old Covenant)



Agape' and Shalom

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Posted : 8 Jun, 2010 07:10 PM

Hey Pixy,



We are to read inorder to feel God's presnece in our hearts and spirts throughHis written word, and in doing so we hear His voice. We are taught to search the scriptures for ourselves and to study to show ourselves approved as workmen of God.



If you READ throughout Paul's writings and Jesus teachings, much is said about reading the prpphets of old. They too were dead, but their works are of God, and since God ain't dead, their works are not dead. Most Christians don't REAd this is why many cdon't know how to witness to others about salvation, or how to answer when asked the question why they believe.



You wouldn't have the Bible to READ if it were not for a DEAD people who translated and put it together in english for our benefit of reading the gospel. Plus, we should always compare and contract what we read in the Bible and understand, with what the dead (LOL) men of God have already expereinced and written. Their work is for our learning and but the Bible is for our salavtion and contact with God this is our witness one way or another. The Bible has the final say in all things we read or do not read. Nevertheless, we must know the difference and have teachers, it they libe up with the word of God, even so this is scripture.



...sooooo in the vocie of Gary Coleman...whatcha talkin bout Willis?:ROFL::dancingp::peace:

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Posted : 8 Jun, 2010 07:16 PM

Oh, Lawdy, my typing needs prayer! But CDFF needs a new board more than my typing needs prayer:ROFL::dancingp:

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Posted : 8 Jun, 2010 10:13 PM

Steve that regeneration statement is out of line with the word,



Hearing



Believing



Faith, man's response to the word of God, and then the surety of the New Covenant make's sure his word comes to pass, 1st Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.



Faith then Regenaration,



1 � What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found?

2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.

3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.

4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.

5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.

8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

9 � Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness.

10 How was it then reckoned? when he was in circumcision, or in uncircumcision? Not in circumcision, but in uncircumcision.

11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:

12 And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised.

13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.

14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:

15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,

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Posted : 8 Jun, 2010 10:29 PM

I didn't mean to imply that what others have to say have no value. I realize that I have a Bible to read because of translators, and that "iron sharpens iron," etc. I was just saying that we shouldn't elevate things outside of Scripture to the same status as Scripture.



It just seems like some people are really quick to go run off and read what someone else has to say about Scripture v. really studying it themselves. There's a difference b/w studying something on your own and constantly relying on someone else's studying notes. It's like sending your buddy to class to take notes for you... It's not bad to study together or to discuss things w/ your buddy, but if you never go to class yourself and just always look at their notes, you're going to miss out on a lot. The Lord does give us wisdom to interpret His Word and we miss out on that sometimes when set the Bible aside in favour of another text instead. There isn't any substitute for the Bible.



But again, I'm not saying not to read texts outside of the Bible or to listen to the sermon at church or anything like that... Those things have value as well, but they're not THE most important means of getting to know God or studying His Word.



And since this is a dating site, I will also add that I personally wouldn't date someone who has to quote someone else in order to discuss Scripture. To me, that's a huge red flag when someone has to quote someone else in order to answer a question about a Book that they ought to be spending a lot of time pouring over.



@Steve- Thanks for the explanation.

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Posted : 8 Jun, 2010 10:33 PM

@trucker- I don't live in Canada. CDFF just seems to think I do. I keep changing my profile to reflect that I live in the States, but CDFF keeps changing it back to Canada. Good thing I'm not actually looking for someone any longer...

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Posted : 8 Jun, 2010 10:37 PM

Oh, and here is something to think about... What if someone is isolated w/ their Bible... like in a concentration camp, where maybe there aren't other believers or aren't other texts to go to? I firmly believe that God will grant that person the wisdom to interpret His Word, if that person sincerely prays for it. We should never discount God's ability to speak directly to a person through His Word and then just dismiss what that person has to say because they didn't it from some popular theologian. We are not always in a circumstance where we can just turn to someone else for answers. That's why we, individually and personally, really need to actually read and understand the Bible for ourselves.

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Posted : 9 Jun, 2010 12:52 PM

Hello Pixy:

Thank you for letting me know about Canada.

Yes we are to study to show ourselves approved unto God.

Yes I do not underestimate the Lord being Omnipotent,Omnipresent and Omniscient.

Psalm 119,throughout this Psalm the person is asking for wisdom, and understanding

'I have more understanding than all my teachers:for your testimonies are my meditation.

I understand more than the ancients,because I have kept your percepts.Psalm 119:99-100.



Reading,studying and understaning the Lords Word,His will,His ways,His Character,attitude,personality,and Who He is and what He is like,these are my own personal responsibility.

I will stand before the Lord and only one other will be standing with me,rather standing for me; that will be Yeshua-the Messiah.

Yeshua alone is my Mediator,He alone Justifies me.

Yeshua is Righteous,Just,Holy and Sanctified on my behalf,and He Imputes His Righteousness,Holiness,and Sanctification to me,as though I had done them myself.

Yeshua has the Authority to say and to do this,because He has the Power to do all of this.

Matthew 28:18



Maybe someone would not mind writnig something about Biblical Imputation.

A subject not taught much these days.



Just some more ramblings

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